WCHA 2019-20 season: We Can Do Better Than Two Bids and a First Round Exit

[aparch]

I just think the fact that the AHL can offer their service for $80 is the point. I'd pay $100ish. $150 is too much. Especially for what Flo provides

AHL offers rewind capability during games, export clips capability, and choice of home or away audio overlay. And each feed has a common graphics package (albeit limited) to keep continuity across the league.

Also, the AHL offers a sh**ton of options for various pricing. Every team, all season, including playoffs for $100, all teams no playoffs $80, one team all games $60, one team either home or away $40, all teams one month only $20, all teams one day only $8.

 

[aparch]

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Here's my biggest issue as well: how much of a cut back is the WCHA getting from subscriptions? Is FloSports cutting a check to the WCHA that is better than the league providing the service themselves? I know the league was "pleasantly shocked" with how many people signed up over what they were expecting. Then they go and hand the reins off after building up some good will (yeah, yeah, Stretch Internet had it's own problems, but the handoff to Flo seemed awkward at best).

 

[thebrain]

Re: WCHA 2019-20 season: We Can Do Better Than Two Bids and a First Round Exit

Maybe I should become a consultant specializing in college hockey video broadcasts.

 

[moose97]

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Then they go and hand the reins off after building up some good will (yeah, yeah, Stretch Internet had it's own problems, but the handoff to Flo seemed awkward at best).

Built up good will? This may be holding a grudge, but someone dropped the ball by saying it would be free before the deal was finalized & I'm still bitter about that 6 & a half years later:

Although a deal is still in the proposal stage, the package, reportedly a service of Fox Sports, would offer free streaming of all games in high-definition over a variety of platforms, including computers, tablets and smartphones.

https://www.mankatofreepress.com/wc...cle_6c7886a2-2b01-507f-9fe3-ec041835cb8e.html

 

[MTUHuskies]

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Maybe I should become a consultant specializing in college hockey video broadcasts.

Too little too late. I'm sure Morris Kurtz beat you to it.

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[manurespreader]

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Too little too late. I'm sure Morris Kurtz beat you to it.

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Well he might be a buffoon but he beat our league out of quite a bit of money.

I liked stretch and I don't see flo as an improvement unless the kick back is higher.
Honestly, 150 isn't that bad since I watch 5 to 6 games per weekend plus I watch some of the B1G games. It's what I do every weekend.

Second issue. I sincerely hope refs get critiqued by someone and get feedback on their performance because the reffing at our games this last weekend was questionable at best. And I'm trying really hard not to say things in a negative way. They not only called things as penalties that I could not see as penalties but they didn't call both teams evenly imho. If act A is a foul when we do it, then it's a foul when they do it also. But that wasn't how it went.

Early in the game they let a lot go and then, later on, they let nothing, not even the most minor thing, go. How do the players play if they don't know what's going to be called.

 

[aparch]

Built up good will? This may be holding a grudge, but someone dropped the ball by saying it would be free before the deal was finalized & I'm still bitter about that 6 & a half years later:

Oooohh. Forgot about that. Logistically, as long as FSNorth could get the feeds to them, they could have pushed them out via the FoxSportsGo app.

Then again, FoxSportsGo is trash because FOX and now Sinclair refuse to support it properly. I still can't stream some FOX Sports feeds because they're "not in my TV package" despite my cable bill telling me differently.

 

[gfmorris]

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Three open questions:

1. Will the topic title of this thread hold true? Bemidji's strong run to the end of the season (I hate everything) gives the WCHA a chance; a better one would happen if Bemidji beat Mankato in the title game. A first-round loss for either Minnesota school puts their at-large bid hopes in doubt.
2. Will Bob Daniels retire?
3. Will Mike Corbett be let go?

GFM

 

[manurespreader]

Re: WCHA 2019-20 season: We Can Do Better Than Two Bids and a First Round Exit

Three open questions:

1. Will the topic title of this thread hold true? Bemidji's strong run to the end of the season (I hate everything) gives the WCHA a chance; a better one would happen if Bemidji beat Mankato in the title game. A first-round loss for either Minnesota school puts their at-large bid hopes in doubt.
2. Will Bob Daniels retire?
3. Will Mike Corbett be let go?

GFM

Yes, no and no. but if you ask it next year at this time, yes, yes, and yes.

 

[beaverhockeyfan]

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I played with the Pairwise predictor over on another site, and if BSU loses to Lake Superior State in the first round, independent of any results for the rest of the year, they would be on the outside looking in.

And that would make Geof happy again!

 

[davyd83]

AHL offers rewind capability during games, export clips capability, and choice of home or away audio overlay. And each feed has a common graphics package (albeit limited) to keep continuity across the league.

Also, the AHL offers a sh**ton of options for various pricing. Every team, all season, including playoffs for $100, all teams no playoffs $80, one team all games $60, one team either home or away $40, all teams one month only $20, all teams one day only $8.

How many AHL markets are the size of Fairbanks, Bemidji, Houghton, Marquette, the Soo or Big Rapids? The WCHA’s biggest markets are Huntsville & Anchorage? Bowling Green is a decent sized market if you include Toledo and Mankato is decent sized. The AHL has a much bigger subscriber base to spread the cost over.

 

[Shirtless Guy]

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Three open questions:

1. Will the topic title of this thread hold true? Bemidji's strong run to the end of the season (I hate everything) gives the WCHA a chance; a better one would happen if Bemidji beat Mankato in the title game. A first-round loss for either Minnesota school puts their at-large bid hopes in doubt.
2. Will Bob Daniels retire?
3. Will Mike Corbett be let go?

GFM

1) I put it at 15% chance that the WCHA gets 3 teams, 80% they get 2 teams, 5% they only get one. MSU is locked in to the tournament, getting swept by UAA isn't knocking them out. I think BSU is 100% in if they get past LSSU and don't get swept in the semi-finals. CHN puts them at 86% right now.
2) From everything I hear, not yet
3) Seems like he should be...

 

[Shirtless Guy]

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How many AHL markets are the size of Fairbanks, Bemidji, Houghton, Marquette, the Soo or Big Rapids? The WCHA’s biggest markets are Huntsville & Anchorage? Bowling Green is a decent sized market if you include Toledo and Mankato is decent sized. The AHL has a much bigger subscriber base to spread the cost over.

sure but we're not talking about locals, we're talking about alumni...which granted is still smaller. I can't imagine there are that many fans that are displaced from an AHL team that want to watch.

 

[TalonsUpPuckDown]

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How many AHL markets are the size of Fairbanks, Bemidji, Houghton, Marquette, the Soo or Big Rapids? The WCHA’s biggest markets are Huntsville & Anchorage? Bowling Green is a decent sized market if you include Toledo and Mankato is decent sized. The AHL has a much bigger subscriber base to spread the cost over.

We're just fine if you don't include us with Toledo.

 

[lakersparty]

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How many AHL markets are the size of Fairbanks, Bemidji, Houghton, Marquette, the Soo or Big Rapids? The WCHA’s biggest markets are Huntsville & Anchorage? Bowling Green is a decent sized market if you include Toledo and Mankato is decent sized. The AHL has a much bigger subscriber base to spread the cost over.

I don't know if I'd use markets to compare subscriber base. If anything, interested people who live in WCHA markets are probably more likely to balk at the cost of FloSports since they are already paying to go to home games, and $150 is a lot to pay for just the road games.

Also, if we're going to talk about markets, I think people sometimes forget that the Soo is actually on the bigger side of WCHA markets due to the larger Canadian Soo. There were times when the Lakers could average over 4,000 fans per game, and that wasn't coming from just the American side.

 

[MTUHuskies]

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I don't know if I'd use markets to compare subscriber base. If anything, interested people who live in WCHA markets are probably more likely to balk at the cost of FloSports since they are already paying to go to home games, and $150 is a lot to pay for just the road games.

Also, if we're going to talk about markets, I think people sometimes forget that the Soo is actually on the bigger side of WCHA markets due to the larger Canadian Soo. There were times when the Lakers could average over 4,000 fans per game, and that wasn't coming from just the American side.

And Tech doesn't draw from just Houghton. They pull fans from across the bridge too.

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[davyd83]

And Tech doesn't draw from just Houghton. They pull fans from across the bridge too.

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Hence the difference between “market” and “city.” The Houghton market would include Hancock, Calumet and Schmidt’s Corner, among others.

 

[MTUHuskies]

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Hence the difference between “market” and “city.” The Houghton market would include Hancock, Calumet and Schmidt’s Corner, among others.

Even Johnny B from Pelkie?

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[gfmorris]

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I played with the Pairwise predictor over on another site, and if BSU loses to Lake Superior State in the first round, independent of any results for the rest of the year, they would be on the outside looking in.

And that would make Geof happy again!

Yep. It still wouldn't change that I strongly suspect which two schools, whose state has a reputation for being nice, are against our school's inclusion in the nCCHA.

GFM

 

[davyd83]

Even Johnny B from Pelkie?

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and the guy from the Mosquito Inn