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Vermont 2013-2014 Season Thread : The Golden Year

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Re: Vermont 2013-2014 Season Thread : The Golden Year

This furthers the fact that you are, indeed, a moron.




There's only one stat that has any merit when it comes to goalies, and that's save percentage.

Hellebuyck - .937 (.941 overall)
Santaguida - .926 (.921 overall)

Weak non-conference schedule? Two games against Quinnipiac and one against Michigan. Two top 10 teams, two teams better than anyone Vermont played.

Team defense including all games, because regardless of how you want to look at it, those games count - Lowell 1.93 - UVM 2.13

Lastly, if you honestly thing Sataguida is in Hellebuyck's league, please log off.
 
Re: Vermont 2013-2014 Season Thread : The Golden Year

Thanks for proving me right.

You know the opposition has conceded the argument when the best they can do is call your school "ugly".

I was simply calling your campus dull and saying how it's located in the ***hole of massachusetts.
 
Re: Vermont 2013-2014 Season Thread : The Golden Year

I could care less about UML, so lets talk about UVM.

There are my thoughts after watching the games this weekend:

The Good:
- It seems the goalie rotation is over and, at least this weekend, that Sendon made the right choice going with Santaquida. Hopefully we see Santaquida the rest of the way.
- Pusharich should be HE ROY. He's really developed well over the season, other than McCarthy he's our best forward.
- McCarthy has turned into the heart and soul of this team. Good senior leadership, smart, aggressive play and really stands out with his knowledge of the game (I really wish Stalberg had stayed too). McCarthy's ability to carry the puck through traffic really drives this teams offense.

The Bad (and I realize this may be nit picking)
- Fallon seems lost out there. He seems to be afriad to be hit and hence is getting rid of the too quick. Is he playing hurt?
- Hamilton still trys to make the great play rather than making the safe play. Which is fine in the offensive zone, but he's still turning the puck over too much in the defensive zone.
- Sneddon still plays not to lose. He called off the dogs in the 3rd period (maybe even after they got up 2-0 halfway through the 2nd) last night and went into his "2-1-2" defensive first zone play (not to be confussed with his 1-2-2 Super defensive first zone play). I'd love to see this team go for the knock out blow when they have a time on the ropes.

All in all a good weekend, the 4 points was huge. I'm thinking 8 points in the final six games (with some help from ND and ME) and this team should be the 5 or 6 seed. 2 points next weekend against BC, a sweep at Merrimack and another 2 points vs UML, if not better.
 
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Re: Vermont 2013-2014 Season Thread : The Golden Year

I would not say that Patronick is 2 faced; maybe bipolar. He certainly is a troll, about that there is no doubt

He's going to be might nervous come Feb 28

There is no way his favorite team can meet his expectations and he will never be happy
 
Re: Vermont 2013-2014 Season Thread : The Golden Year

ok, back to hockey

I have concerns with goaltending still. Santaguida is too darn small to win the big game at this level. I was calling for Hoffman but he then started playing poorly, giving up easy five hole and bad angle goals so I agree to go with Santa right now, but in the end, the Cats need Hoffman to clean up the bad goals and take the reins.

going forward - I think they will play tough vs. BC but 2 points would be best case scenario and is probably a dream. I worry about being able to sweep at Mack, we play down (in net at least) against lower end competition.

UML does not look like the same team as last year; Hellbuck is awesome (and if he was a Cat then UVM is top 7 in country right now also) but they are not dominant currently; I like our chances for a split or better

Sadly, because our netminding cost us some early conference games (ND, PC, NU x2) we are going to struggle to get higher than 6th. More interesting is the chance to get into the tourney, they need to beat BC once and UML once or twice and get 3 pts and Mack and they should be ok to be in that 13 area, can't slip beyond 14th for fear of getting knocked out

Maine, Clarkson and SLU need to win some games to help the Cats. Maine collapsed last night and it had to be costly for the Cats also
 
Re: Vermont 2013-2014 Season Thread : The Golden Year

Weak non-conference schedule? Two games against Quinnipiac and one against Michigan. Two top 10 teams, two teams better than anyone Vermont played.

Current RPI SOS

Vermont #10
UML #27

As you said stats dont lie.

And you lost both games to Quinnipiac....way to throw those 2 games in our face.
 
Re: Vermont 2013-2014 Season Thread : The Golden Year

He's like a politician. He does not even read the comments correctly. But he does get some activity in the thread which is why I added the UML comment at the UNH site. I wondered if he would be trolling in a thread so far from where his team is active. Sure enough, hooked him, and in record time. Maybe he works night security and has nothing to do but cruise the internet. I'm really looking forward to the final RS weekend. And I would not be surprised if they meet again. Having said all that, nobody is beating BC in a game that is important to them before the HE hardware is awarded. I don't think the next two games are particularly important to BC though, they have RS title wrapped up from a practical standpoint, time for a night off!
 
Re: Vermont 2013-2014 Season Thread : The Golden Year

Another good scoring weekend from the freshman class and it made me wonder how this class compares to the ones before

2014 so far 29 goals
2013 14
2012 23
2011 15

29 goals with 6 reg season games plus playoffs to go this class is by far the best in a long time.
 
Re: Vermont 2013-2014 Season Thread : The Golden Year

He's like a politician. He does not even read the comments correctly. But he does get some activity in the thread which is why I added the UML comment at the UNH site. I wondered if he would be trolling in a thread so far from where his team is active. Sure enough, hooked him, and in record time. Maybe he works night security and has nothing to do but cruise the internet.

I usually read all of the HE related threads. I'm surprised to learn that other people don't.

I don't usually post unless someone makes an absolutely ridiculous statement, like "Vermont is far superior to Lowell", a la Snwbrdr on the UNH thread. A statement so absurd I wasn't even sure where to begin. I did notice that you didn't respond, but I do understand why. It's an inarguable point, and being in another team's thread, you wouldn't have your yokels with the green glasses on to further back you up with no supporting evidence. Except if you count that one guy who honestly thinks GAA is a relative goalie metric, which it isn't (even if it was, both of Lowell's goalies have a better GAA than Santaguida anyway).

As for your inference that you "hooked me", that only makes sense if you're agreeing that what you wrote was ludicrous and was only posted to solicit a reaction. If that's the case, I agree it was asinine, and good troll. But I suspect you actually believe what you wrote, which just illustrates my point that you don't have the slightest idea of what your talking about.

Good luck this weekend. While I do enjoy seeing Vermont lose, Lowell is still (technically) alive for 1st if they beat Amherst and Vermont doesn't get swept. It'll require an extraordinary set of circumstances (and BC basically imploding) but I have no doubt that a team so vastly superior to Lowell should be able to at least take a game off of BC.
 
Re: Vermont 2013-2014 Season Thread : The Golden Year

Current RPI SOS

Vermont #10
UML #27

As you said stats dont lie.

And you lost both games to Quinnipiac....way to throw those 2 games in our face.

They don't lie. Vermont has a stronger SOS than Lowell. I never said otherwise. I said Lowell's wasn't "weak", it featured some very good teams. Lowell's OOC had better high end opponents, but a lot of filler at the bottom of the RPI forced by the crazy 11 team schedule. In a perfect scenario I personally wouldn't have scheduled AIC, Canisus and Penn State, but you play who's on the schedule. My point was you can't cherry pick your stats by omitting OOC play.

Yup, lost both to the Q. They're pretty, pretty good. Also lost to Sacred Heart the first game of the season, booooooooy was that embarrassing. But (true story), since that second lost to the Q on 10/25/13, Lowell has been 18-4-3. I'm fine with the team playing its best hockey at the end of the season.

See ya in a few weeks.
 
Re: Vermont 2013-2014 Season Thread : The Golden Year

There's only one stat that has any merit when it comes to goalies, and that's save percentage.

Hellebuyck - .937 (.941 overall)
Santaguida - .926 (.921 overall)

Right... because, you know, all shots are of the exact same quality. According to you Lowell is way better defensively ergo Hellebuyck is seeing fewer quality shots and yet out of a 100 shots he makes 1 extra save over Santaguida... Yeah great argument to bolster your "light years" ahead assertion. Idiot
 
Re: Vermont 2013-2014 Season Thread : The Golden Year

On to BC... should be a great weekend and the Gutt will be packed. It's been a long time between games :(

BC is clearly the best team in HE but I do believe UVM can be competitive with them. Also lets face it, BC is on a 14 game unbeaten streak (why do we always have to play BC at the end of the year :mad:)... that can't go on forever. Further they have only 1 loss in league play. I can't see a team getting through a season without at least 3 losses... that means they need to lose 2 out of the next 5 games. May as well be against Vermont. Hopefully they will have a Beanpot hangover.
 
Re: Vermont 2013-2014 Season Thread : The Golden Year

Right... because, you know, all shots are of the exact same quality. According to you Lowell is way better defensively ergo Hellebuyck is seeing fewer quality shots and yet out of a 100 shots he makes 1 extra save over Santaguida... Yeah great argument to bolster your "light years" ahead assertion. Idiot

1 extra save over 100 shots means 1 less goal allowed every 3-4 games or so. That comes out to roughly 10 goals over the course of the season. Vermont is 6-4-3 in games decided by 1 goal or less so far this season. Make that 1 extra save in 7 games and UVM goes from 15-9-3 to 18-6-4. In league play, UVM is 4-3 in 1 goal games. Just make 1 extra save, and they go from 7-7-0 to 7-4-3, and those 3 extra points from you from 7th to a tie for 3rd. Think that 1 extra save in 100 shots doesn't make a huge difference?
 
Re: Vermont 2013-2014 Season Thread : The Golden Year

1 extra save over 100 shots means 1 less goal allowed every 3-4 games or so. That comes out to roughly 10 goals over the course of the season. Vermont is 6-4-3 in games decided by 1 goal or less so far this season. Make that 1 extra save in 7 games and UVM goes from 15-9-3 to 18-6-4. In league play, UVM is 4-3 in 1 goal games. Just make 1 extra save, and they go from 7-7-0 to 7-4-3, and those 3 extra points from you from 7th to a tie for 3rd. Think that 1 extra save in 100 shots doesn't make a huge difference?

Boy you Lowell Boys seem to have a real issue with staying on topic, it's like you all have ADD or something.

So to recap for you intellectually challenged folk : 1 goal on 100 shots with a better team defense does not make you "light years" better...

As for your post, you will get no argument from me.
 
Re: Vermont 2013-2014 Season Thread : The Golden Year

On to BC... should be a great weekend and the Gutt will be packed. It's been a long time between games :(

BC is clearly the best team in HE but I do believe UVM can be competitive with them. Also lets face it, BC is on a 14 game unbeaten streak (why do we always have to play BC at the end of the year :mad:)... that can't go on forever. Further they have only 1 loss in league play. I can't see a team getting through a season without at least 3 losses... that means they need to lose 2 out of the next 5 games. May as well be against Vermont. Hopefully they will have a Beanpot hangover.

It would sure be nice to get two points from BC (both in HE and in PWR).

Here is a summary (and projection) of what's left in HE:

HE Games Left
BC 5 - 2 @ UVM, H&H w/ UML, vs ND
UML 5 - vs Umass, H&H w/ BC, 2 @ UVM
NE 5 - @ Umass, 2 vs ME, H&H w/ BU
ME 6 - 2 vs MC, 2 @ NE, 2 vs PC
PC 6 - 2 vs ND, H&H w/ Umass, 2 @ ME
UVM 6 - 2 vs BC, 2 @ MC, 2 vs UML
UNH 4 - H&H w/ BU, 2 @ MC
ND 5 - 2 @ PC, 2 vs BU, @ BC
BU 6 - H&H w/ UNH, 2 @ ND, H&H w/ NE
UMASS 4 - @ UML, vs NE, H&H w/ PC
MC 6 - 2 @ ME, 2 vs UVM, 2 vs UNH

Place/Team/Additional Pro Points/Current Points/Final Points
1st BC 6 27 33
2nd UML 6 20 26
3rd NE 8 17 25
4th ME 8 16 24
5th PC 8 15 23
6th UVM 8 14 22
7th UNH 4 16 20
8th ND 6 11 17
9th -tie BU 2 9 11
9th -tie UMASS 0 11 11
11th MC 2 6 8
 
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Re: Vermont 2013-2014 Season Thread : The Golden Year

On to BC... should be a great weekend and the Gutt will be packed. It's been a long time between games :(

BC is clearly the best team in HE but I do believe UVM can be competitive with them. Also lets face it, BC is on a 14 game unbeaten streak (why do we always have to play BC at the end of the year :mad:)... that can't go on forever. Further they have only 1 loss in league play. I can't see a team getting through a season without at least 3 losses... that means they need to lose 2 out of the next 5 games. May as well be against Vermont. Hopefully they will have a Beanpot hangover.

I will be at the Gut on Friday night but will probably have to watch Saturday night on TV. I haven't seen many of UVMs games on this away stretch but I did watch both UNH games this past weekend. Saturday night was a bit of a struggle for the win but hopefully these two games will bring a bit of confidence into this weekend vs a very tough BC team.
 
Re: Vermont 2013-2014 Season Thread : The Golden Year

Does UVM have a free stream of their games? I feel like there was a good chance they did but can't remember.
 
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