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Utica College Pioneers 2012-13 Season

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Re: Utica College Pioneers 2012-13 Season

sshablak said:
PSU I have been restraining but you really are a goof. You and your peewee D3 mentality. Will you please stay on your own thread.Talk about current events, just because you have "five" losses this year, nothing good to say about your own team, so you come here. UC's not even my #1 team but you go wayy overboard. Talk about "THIS" year like everyone else...not the past !
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Couldn't have said it better myself.
 
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Big win, and it might have come against the toughest opponent left on UC's schedule.

NU 2013 was pretty-much just another Dawes NU team, IMO: they have two scary lines, great goaltending, and are physically strong and obviously well-coached. They worked hard, and contested everything UC tried to do tonight. (They played a smart game, too... Best trap I've seen in years, in the early going.) Overall, NU is the best team I've seen UC face all season.

Utica's team-speed was the difference, which has often been the case in '12-'13. I haven't seen another team that can skate with them so far.

The officiating was curious tonight. I saw but one of the 18 infractions called (the UC slash in the 1st). The rest appeared to phantom-calls against both teams, while they ignored 3 obvious trips... I hope those guys are better at their day-jobs.

Hate to sound greedy, but another W tomorrow v. M'ville would be lovely. (That would greatly improve Utica's chances for home-ice in the conference tournament, too.)
 
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Unreal ! The "naysayers" haven't much left to say ! Another great win against a very hot team !
 
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Solid win for UC last eve...To a few trolls out there, you remind me of a few posters on the d3boards site that are like seagulls. You swoop in, drop your crap, and then leave the rest of us to clean up the mess. Your opinions arent welcomed, they arent intelligent, they pontificate. Bring something that is relevant and thought provoking...Coming on here and chest thumping about the glory days makes me think that you still wish you were living in your dorm doing shotguns of Mill Best.
 
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Peach, Dont know if that was directed at me, but that def was not where I was going.
Ive been on boards a long time and Ive seen my fair share of trolls.
Opinions are great. Disagreement is great.
Jumping on here bashing has no value..
 
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I realize that, not being a Utica fan, many of the intended audience of this message will not read it, but I'll post it anyway:

I'm confused. Is this the the thread about Utica (which, as I already stated, means discussion both positive and negative about the team in question from fans of both UC and other DIII teams... That's the way this board had worked since its inception), or is this the "we hate the long-time posters of this board that we recently DECIDED to join so we're going to whine about it to no end" thread? Seriously, you're spending more time whining about Remy than talking about your own team. Remy is who he is. The others, too. They are passionate fans of their own respective teams, and proud of the histories their teams have. But they've also been around here long enough to see, as they've stated, fans of Geneseo in the mid 2000s and fans of Adrian after that come swarming in here trumpeting their team's amazing potential, only to see them disappear when their teams fell short (in the case of Genny), or when the lack of a chance in the tourny was no longer something to complain about. Most of them considered those not buying into the hype as "trolls" just like you guys are... But the funny thing is that many non-genny or non-adrian fans considered most (although certainly not all) of the fans of the team in question to be the "trolls". That's what he meant when he said you were like the new Geneseo. And that's why they can at times be so aggressive with you: you didn't **** them off, but similar posters to yourselves who came before certainly did.

Ultimately, believe it or not, history does come into the discussion at the end of the year. First of all, the team's history and reputation affects the OOC teams that the coach can schedule, thus affecting the SOS indirectly. But secondly, and more importantly, the selection process for at-large bids (upon which UC, being a member of the ECAC-W), is dependant), while being based on a number of statistical criteria, is a somewhat subjective process because the ranking committees are left some wiggle room to weight the criteria as they see fit. It's actually very rare that anybody (even Matt Webb and Josh Carey over at d3hockey.com, long-time writers and board moderators here who left due to disagreements with the USCHO administators, who have done annual bracketologies for years now) to correctly guess the entire field of at-large bids, and to my knowledge no poster/writer on either board has ever correctly predicted both the field and the bracket pairings. But my point is: history matters, even if it is just a little. So these posters who are trying to remind you when you get really indignant over not beng ranked highly that UC has a reputation of both not being great away from home AND of always falling apart and fallng short in the end, ought to be listened to. Because that Reputation DOES exist, and there is every chance in the world that it will impact the team at the end of the season.

And I would just like to say that I do think UC has a lot of potential. The problem that's keeping me from jumping on the UC bandwagon just yet is that, like many other DIII fans, we've seen a few teams, including UC, suddenly have lots of potential and then ultimately fade away: a flash in the pan. If UC can finally put it together, that will go a long way toward improving the reputatin the team has. Just look at how little heated discussion is happening around Adrian: there was a time when EVERY thread on the front page of this board, regardless of its original topic, was a vile argument about how AC got hosed or about how Mitch Albom was a moron. Now, they're in a few threads, but it's a more pleasant conversation. Part of it is that, once Adrian got into the tourny with a brand new AQ, there was no external adversity to complain about and the trolls who attacked anyone who so much as THOUGHT that AC weren't the automatic National Champions disappeared because pleasant informed conversation was of no interest to them. But the other part of it is that AC proved where they stood in the DIII ranks, and so their detractors died down a bit, too.

There, I'm sure you can glean my personal thought-out opinion from that somehow. Anyway, I may not always agree with Remy, or other long-time posters on this board, but I will always defend them when they are personally attacked. Remy is, like I said, a very passionate Plattsburgh fan. He is also fairly well-versed in eastern DIII history, which will greatly affect his opinions. And when he disagrees with something somebody says, sarcasm is ALWAYS his method of choice for expressing that disagreement. If you can't handle a bit of sarcasm mixed with a bit of dissenting opinion, then I feel sorry for you.

For the record, I wouldnat this point have UC ranked above Plattsburgh. An argument can be made of Oz, but I would have no complaints if the Pioneers were ranked above the Lakers, too. If UC makes it to Placid (or even if they don't?) I look forward to meeting some of you there. I'll be there, cardinals or no cardinals.
 
Re: Utica College Pioneers 2012-13 Season

CARDS_rule_the_Burgh said:
I realize that, not being a Utica fan, many of the intended audience of this message will not read it, but I'll post it anyway:

I'm confused. Is this the the thread about Utica (which, as I already stated, means discussion both positive and negative about the team in question from fans of both UC and other DIII teams... That's the way this board had worked since its inception), or is this the "we hate the long-time posters of this board that we recently DECIDED to join so we're going to whine about it to no end" thread? Seriously, you're spending more time whining about Remy than talking about your own team. Remy is who he is. The others, too. They are passionate fans of their own respective teams, and proud of the histories their teams have. But they've also been around here long enough to see, as they've stated, fans of Geneseo in the mid 2000s and fans of Adrian after that come swarming in here trumpeting their team's amazing potential, only to see them disappear when their teams fell short (in the case of Genny), or when the lack of a chance in the tourny was no longer something to complain about. Most of them considered those not buying into the hype as "trolls" just like you guys are... But the funny thing is that many non-genny or non-adrian fans considered most (although certainly not all) of the fans of the team in question to be the "trolls". That's what he meant when he said you were like the new Geneseo. And that's why they can at times be so aggressive with you: you didn't **** them off, but similar posters to yourselves who came before certainly did.

Ultimately, believe it or not, history does come into the discussion at the end of the year. First of all, the team's history and reputation affects the OOC teams that the coach can schedule, thus affecting the SOS indirectly. But secondly, and more importantly, the selection process for at-large bids (upon which UC, being a member of the ECAC-W), is dependant), while being based on a number of statistical criteria, is a somewhat subjective process because the ranking committees are left some wiggle room to weight the criteria as they see fit. It's actually very rare that anybody (even Matt Webb and Josh Carey over at d3hockey.com, long-time writers and board moderators here who left due to disagreements with the USCHO administators, who have done annual bracketologies for years now) to correctly guess the entire field of at-large bids, and to my knowledge no poster/writer on either board has ever correctly predicted both the field and the bracket pairings. But my point is: history matters, even if it is just a little. So these posters who are trying to remind you when you get really indignant over not beng ranked highly that UC has a reputation of both not being great away from home AND of always falling apart and fallng short in the end, ought to be listened to. Because that Reputation DOES exist, and there is every chance in the world that it will impact the team at the end of the season.

And I would just like to say that I do think UC has a lot of potential. The problem that's keeping me from jumping on the UC bandwagon just yet is that, like many other DIII fans, we've seen a few teams, including UC, suddenly have lots of potential and then ultimately fade away: a flash in the pan. If UC can finally put it together, that will go a long way toward improving the reputatin the team has. Just look at how little heated discussion is happening around Adrian: there was a time when EVERY thread on the front page of this board, regardless of its original topic, was a vile argument about how AC got hosed or about how Mitch Albom was a moron. Now, they're in a few threads, but it's a more pleasant conversation. Part of it is that, once Adrian got into the tourny with a brand new AQ, there was no external adversity to complain about and the trolls who attacked anyone who so much as THOUGHT that AC weren't the automatic National Champions disappeared because pleasant informed conversation was of no interest to them. But the other part of it is that AC proved where they stood in the DIII ranks, and so their detractors died down a bit, too.

There, I'm sure you can glean my personal thought-out opinion from that somehow. Anyway, I may not always agree with Remy, or other long-time posters on this board, but I will always defend them when they are personally attacked. Remy is, like I said, a very passionate Plattsburgh fan. He is also fairly well-versed in eastern DIII history, which will greatly affect his opinions. And when he disagrees with something somebody says, sarcasm is ALWAYS his method of choice for expressing that disagreement. If you can't handle a bit of sarcasm mixed with a bit of dissenting opinion, then I feel sorry for you.

For the record, I wouldnat this point have UC ranked above Plattsburgh. An argument can be made of Oz, but I would have no complaints if the Pioneers were ranked above the Lakers, too. If UC makes it to Placid (or even if they don't?) I look forward to meeting some of you there. I'll be there, cardinals or no cardinals.
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Very well said. And just to clarify, I probably am a troll because I read every thread on here, after all the US in USCHO stands for United States!! But then agian I like to see everyones opniions about the sport, and many times I hold back on comments and sometimes I post, but that is the way it is on any blog!!!
 
Re: Utica College Pioneers 2012-13 Season

CARDS_rule_the_Burgh said:
I realize that, not being a Utica fan, many of the intended audience of this message will not read it, but I'll post it anyway:

I'm confused. Is this the the thread about Utica (which, as I already stated, means discussion both positive and negative about the team in question from fans of both UC and other DIII teams... That's the way this board had worked since its inception), or is this the "we hate the long-time posters of this board that we recently DECIDED to join so we're going to whine about it to no end" thread? Seriously, you're spending more time whining about Remy than talking about your own team. Remy is who he is. The others, too. They are passionate fans of their own respective teams, and proud of the histories their teams have. But they've also been around here long enough to see, as they've stated, fans of Geneseo in the mid 2000s and fans of Adrian after that come swarming in here trumpeting their team's amazing potential, only to see them disappear when their teams fell short (in the case of Genny), or when the lack of a chance in the tourny was no longer something to complain about. Most of them considered those not buying into the hype as "trolls" just like you guys are... But the funny thing is that many non-genny or non-adrian fans considered most (although certainly not all) of the fans of the team in question to be the "trolls". That's what he meant when he said you were like the new Geneseo. And that's why they can at times be so aggressive with you: you didn't **** them off, but similar posters to yourselves who came before certainly did.

Ultimately, believe it or not, history does come into the discussion at the end of the year. First of all, the team's history and reputation affects the OOC teams that the coach can schedule, thus affecting the SOS indirectly. But secondly, and more importantly, the selection process for at-large bids (upon which UC, being a member of the ECAC-W), is dependant), while being based on a number of statistical criteria, is a somewhat subjective process because the ranking committees are left some wiggle room to weight the criteria as they see fit. It's actually very rare that anybody (even Matt Webb and Josh Carey over at d3hockey.com, long-time writers and board moderators here who left due to disagreements with the USCHO administators, who have done annual bracketologies for years now) to correctly guess the entire field of at-large bids, and to my knowledge no poster/writer on either board has ever correctly predicted both the field and the bracket pairings. But my point is: history matters, even if it is just a little. So these posters who are trying to remind you when you get really indignant over not beng ranked highly that UC has a reputation of both not being great away from home AND of always falling apart and fallng short in the end, ought to be listened to. Because that Reputation DOES exist, and there is every chance in the world that it will impact the team at the end of the season.

And I would just like to say that I do think UC has a lot of potential. The problem that's keeping me from jumping on the UC bandwagon just yet is that, like many other DIII fans, we've seen a few teams, including UC, suddenly have lots of potential and then ultimately fade away: a flash in the pan. If UC can finally put it together, that will go a long way toward improving the reputatin the team has. Just look at how little heated discussion is happening around Adrian: there was a time when EVERY thread on the front page of this board, regardless of its original topic, was a vile argument about how AC got hosed or about how Mitch Albom was a moron. Now, they're in a few threads, but it's a more pleasant conversation. Part of it is that, once Adrian got into the tourny with a brand new AQ, there was no external adversity to complain about and the trolls who attacked anyone who so much as THOUGHT that AC weren't the automatic National Champions disappeared because pleasant informed conversation was of no interest to them. But the other part of it is that AC proved where they stood in the DIII ranks, and so their detractors died down a bit, too.

There, I'm sure you can glean my personal thought-out opinion from that somehow. Anyway, I may not always agree with Remy, or other long-time posters on this board, but I will always defend them when they are personally attacked. Remy is, like I said, a very passionate Plattsburgh fan. He is also fairly well-versed in eastern DIII history, which will greatly affect his opinions. And when he disagrees with something somebody says, sarcasm is ALWAYS his method of choice for expressing that disagreement. If you can't handle a bit of sarcasm mixed with a bit of dissenting opinion, then I feel sorry for you.

For the record, I wouldnat this point have UC ranked above Plattsburgh. An argument can be made of Oz, but I would have no complaints if the Pioneers were ranked above the Lakers, too. If UC makes it to Placid (or even if they don't?) I look forward to meeting some of you there. I'll be there, cardinals or no cardinals.
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+1 I will be there as well, Lakers or not...look forward to seeing you all.
 
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# 11 Manhattanville comes to the Aud riding a 2 game losing streak; either very overrated :confused: or really p*ssed off. :eek: Get there early for your Trax bobblehead doll! :)

(For the record, this poster is the original Utica College poster, has been posting for over 10 years, and has lived through the post and opinions of the "professional" tolls of the team that was formally known as D-III RIT. :rolleyes: )
 
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UCBadger said:
# 11 Manhattanville comes to the Aud riding a 2 game losing streak; either very overrated :confused: or really p*ssed off. :eek: Get there early for your Trax bobblehead doll! :)

(For the record, this poster is the original Utica College poster, has been posting for over 10 years, and has lived through the post and opinions of the "professional" tolls of the team that was formally known as D-III RIT. :rolleyes: )
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Oh, I think M'Ville will be a little more than just p*ssed off;) Being Naz's first ever ECAC-W win isn't what they wanted in their "books" Congrats to Naz, I thought they would have gotten their first win against EC.;)
 
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Ouch!!!

UCBadger said:
(For the record, this poster is the original Utica College poster, has been posting for over 10 years, and has lived through the post and opinions of the "professional" tolls of the team that was formally known as D-III RIT. :rolleyes: )
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Awww, c'mon man... that one <U><I>hurt</I></U>!! I think my nose is bleeding! :eek:

"We weren't <B>ALL</B> <U><I>that</I></U> bad"!! :D :p
 
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UC having yet another great homestand...4-1 over Mville..
This is above and beyond what any UC team has done!
Well done!
 
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