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4four4 said:
I have to disagree. For example, I will bet most NHL players would rather win a Stanley Cup over an Olympic Gold medal.
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For the longest time Canadians probably grew up dreaming about Stanley Cup championships with the Olympics being a long distant after thought. Simply put, Canada was not allowed to send their best to the Olympics so the value of an Olympic gold medal in hockey was suspect.

This is beginning to now change. Since the early 90's, millions of impressionable Canadian youths have been watching their country battle it out for supremacy on the word stage. TSN averages more viewers for this tourney than any others. I believe that over 3.5 million Canadians watched last year’s final. Winning a gold medal for your country is very much in vogue now in Canada and I suspect more so than even winning a Stanley Cup.

As for U.S players, at one time college hockey was everything but that time is now gone. Take a look at the composition of this year's U.S. WJC squad. Ten players on it have ties to the CHL and not the NCAA. Many many more are NTDP graduates whose sole purpose is to make the NHL and win medals for their country along the way. The NCAA is merely a way station on to bigger things. Sure the college boys would love to win a NCAA title but you can't tell me that it would mean more than a gold medal in the most prestigious armature hockey event in the world today.
 
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jnacc said:
Sure the college boys would love to win a NCAA title but you can't tell me that it would mean more than a gold medal in the most prestigious armature hockey event in the world today.
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Considering that the niche hockey audience in this country doesn't give a rat's *** about this tournament, nor does most of the niche of a niche of college hockey fans, I imagine most of their friends look at them about the same as people I know look at my Pinewood derby trophy from when I was 8. They probably get less coverage in their hometowns than Mark Grimmette does in my hometown for his 4 Olympic appearances in Luge.

Good god, at least ESPN acknowledges the Stanley Cup.
 
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bronconick said:
Considering that the niche hockey audience in this country doesn't give a rat's *** about this tournament, nor does most of the niche of a niche of college hockey fans, I imagine most of their friends look at them about the same as people I know look at my Pinewood derby trophy from when I was 8. They probably get less coverage in their hometowns than Mark Grimmette does in my hometown for his 4 Olympic appearances in Luge.

Good god, at least ESPN acknowledges the Stanley Cup.
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In the hockey world, this tournament dwarfs D-1 hockey. Draft status, contracts and futures are made at this tourney.

So because a high school title has more of a following in Minny, it has more prestige than this tournament???

Dream on.
 
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jnacc said:
In the hockey world, this tournament dwarfs D-1 hockey. Draft status, contracts and futures are made at this tourney.

So because a high school title has more of a following in Minny, it has more prestige than this tournament???

Dream on.
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Perhaps. Since Canadian hockey players would give their left nut to win Gold at the WJC, you assume it is the same for every single hockey player when this isn't necessarily true.
 
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brianvf said:
Were you at either game? :p :)
How about the DU/UND 1st round playoff games where DU won the 1st game and then UND won the next two games, both in OT? It was darn loud for those two as well.
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Those were both louder than the Holy Cross game. I even thought last year when UND beat CC in OT it was louder than the Holy cross game.



Broten's gold medal has to be his sweetest. They were underdog amatuers playing against basically profesional teams. When he won the cup he was an older player on the team and really didn't play that important of a role. He has always said he wished he would have won the state tourny but all kids from up north LOVE to bring that trophy up where it belongs.
 
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Dirty said:
Perhaps. Since Canadian hockey players would give their left nut to win Gold at the WJC, you assume it is the same for every single hockey player when this isn't necessarily true.
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Considering that the core of the U.S. team has been through the NTDP, where they wore the U.S. colors for two years, where they represented their country in numerous international tournaments, where pride is instilled for playing USA HOCKEY......yeah I'd say it's more than true :D
 
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bronconick said:
Considering that the niche hockey audience in this country doesn't give a rat's *** about this tournament, nor does most of the niche of a niche of college hockey fans, I imagine most of their friends look at them about the same as people I know look at my Pinewood derby trophy from when I was 8. They probably get less coverage in their hometowns than Mark Grimmette does in my hometown for his 4 Olympic appearances in Luge.

Good god, at least ESPN acknowledges the Stanley Cup.
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Spectators and media in America may not care much, but I can assure you that the hockey world of NHL brass (GMs, Scouts, player development people) and the serious hockey media outlets (TSN, The Hockey News, etc.) and the whole country of Canada cares very much about this tournament. Huge leaps in draft status and contract offers for players are among the benefits of playing well here. There is no better place for a young hockey player to establish himself in the hockey world than the WJCs. This is the place a where a player can measure where he stands among the players in the world at this age group.
 
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Lines are posted for Team USA here:

http://tsn.ca/world_jrs/feature/?id=12004

Forwards:
Zucker - Bourque - Schroeder
Kreider - Jenks - Morin
D'Amigo - Stepan - Kristo
Palmieri - Johnson - McRae
Walker

Defence:
Warsofsky - Carlson
Donovan - Fowler
Gardner - Ramage
Lashoff

Goalies:
Campbell
Lee

Looks like Campbell is getting the start in net tonight.
 
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brianvf said:
Lines are posted for Team USA here:

http://tsn.ca/world_jrs/feature/?id=12004

Forwards:
Zucker - Bourque - Schroeder
Kreider - Jenks - Morin
D'Amigo - Stepan - Kristo
Palmieri - Johnson - McRae
Walker

Defence:
Warsofsky - Carlson
Donovan - Fowler
Gardner - Ramage
Lashoff

Goalies:
Campbell
Lee

Looks like Campbell is getting the start in net tonight.
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Good moves here. Keeping Kristo on the third line spreads the offensive depth of the USA lineup, and playing Campbell against the Canadians is probably the right move - he's been a little sharper than Lee and he knows more of the Canadian shooters.
 
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For a centralized list of all the games and where to watch them: http://www.myp2pforum.eu/nhl-icehockey/48078-icehockey-2010-junior-world-championship.html

Since Finland/Czech/Russia all beat each other, I'd assume even if the Czechs beat the Russians they will be in the relegation round due to goal differential and the whooping they received from Sweden.

The Czechs will have to beat the Russians by four goals. If that happens, the Czechs would move on and the Russians would be relegated. This assumes that Finland doesn't give up six goals in the third to lose 10-0 to Sweden.
 
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