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UNH Wildcats Official Wait til Next Year...14/15 thread

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Hung on for dear life in the 3rd period, but a win is a win is a win. Up to 10th place, a point ahead of slumping Merrimack. UNH is going to need to win at least 3 of their final 4 games to hold out any hope for an 8th place finish. Problem is, dropping any points to UConn is only going to make it tougher for UNH to overcome them (3 pts. behind) AND opens the door for Merrimack to overtake them again before the final RS weekend.

I'd like to think a 7 points out of 8 finish is attainable ... but this is a young and very inconsistent UNH team, and I think a 9th or 10th place RS finish at this point is the best it's going to get. Hopefully with the added confidence of being able to split weekends with BU and UVM in recent weeks, they can make some noise in the opening round. Hopefully this is the light at the end of the tunnel ...
 
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Great win for our 'Cats today although I could've done without that end ! But that's ok it's a big W even if it doesn't catapault us up in HE.

Very happy that Senior Jay Camper had a good night with two points and being named #1 star of the game. And good to see the Frosh do it again with Foegele and Eiserman cashing in. When BU was on their methodical tear (and man it was cool to see what David Q coached up just sayin) we heard a lot of pad saves from DT whom had some great glove saves in the 2nd as well.

Was pointed out on Twitter that the 'Cats have beat what, 6 ranked teams and we snapped a 7 game BU win streak. Those are positive things for UNH considering our season's record.

On a final note great to catch up Snively65 best wishes to your BentleyBoys the rest of the way...Go 'Cats!
 
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A great day to be a Wildcat, best since dispatching NU at the end of last season. You knew it was coming with BU. After 2 periods we were 2 goals short of a comfortable lead. The ending was great, finally got the crowd excited enough to drown out the BU traveling contingent, kudos to them. For Quinn this might be the coachable moment he has been waiting for. "See, boys? I told you that you can't always wait until the 3rd period."

Lasting image for the evening is BU players on a knee in front of their bench after time ran out. They brought it. We held.
 
A great day to be a Wildcat, best since dispatching NU at the end of last season. You knew it was coming with BU. After 2 periods we were 2 goals short of a comfortable lead. The ending was great, finally got the crowd excited enough to drown out the BU traveling contingent, kudos to them. For Quinn this might be the coachable moment he has been waiting for. "See, boys? I told you that you can't always wait until the 3rd period."

Lasting image for the evening is BU players on a knee in front of their bench after time ran out. They brought it. We held.

Posts like this make me wish this board had a like button!
 
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In catching up with the past two pages of posts, I earlier overlooked Chuck's comments that BU does not have what it will take to go all the way this year. I think that he is right, as UNH exposed BUs lack of depth tonight, which a good friend and lifelong BU fan also has confided to me. UNH third and fourth lines scored their three even up goals against BUs second, third, and fourth lines, and UNH first PP unit scored against BU first PK unit (Eichel et al). Besides junior Grzelcyk, who got his third and fourth goals of the season tonight, BU skates four frosh on D, along with a sophomore when junior Oksanen does not play the blue line. Two of the three UNH even up goals were when BUs third D pair was on the ice, the other when Grzelcyk and frosh blue line mate were on the ice.

BU lost a PWR point tonight to drop them to third, and UNH gained a PWR point to climb from a tie at 40th to a tie at 37th, not that PWR means anything for UNH at this point, but at least we leapfrogged UConn. The Cats should be able to run the table and pick up 8 points for probable home ice in the first round of the HEA tournament, but will they? But, should we win two of three, home or away, we would be going back to Agganis for two of three, if I am not mistaken. At least the Cats learned tonight that they can play with anyone in HEA. I would really like to see Willows, Thrush, and whomever on the ice whenever Eichel's line is out there, should the opportunity arise again this season, as all three BU goals were scored against our third line tonight. Maybe Umile should make Camper, Eiserman, and Foegele our scoring line, and Willows and Thrush our checking line until (if?) Downing returns?
 
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In catching up with the past two pages of posts, I earlier overlooked Chuck's comments that BU does not have what it will take to go all the way this year. I think that he is right, as UNH exposed BUs lack of depth tonight, which a good friend and lifelong BU fan also has confided to me. UNH third and fourth lines scored their three even up goals against BUs second, third, and fourth lines, and UNH first PP unit scored against BU first PK unit (Eichel et al). Besides junior Grzelcyk, who got his third and fourth goals of the season tonight, BU skates four frosh on D, along with a sophomore when junior Oksanen does not play the blue line. Two of the three UNH even up goals were when BUs third D pair was on the ice, the other when Grzelcyk and frosh blue line mate were on the ice.

BU's problem isn't a lack of depth, it's a lack of effort and execution in the first two periods, coupled with inexperienced D who still make freshmen plays. It's been our main issue all year. BU is far from a one-line team.
 
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In catching up with the past two pages of posts, I earlier overlooked Chuck's comments that BU does not have what it will take to go all the way this year. I think that he is right, as UNH exposed BUs lack of depth tonight, which a good friend and lifelong BU fan also has confided to me.

Just to clarify ... it's not so much the "lack of depth" issue than I see it being lack of experience, a little too much focus on the offensive end, and a lack of team focus on the defensive dirty work. *Maybe* the light will go on once they hit the postseason ... but that rarely happens, especially with such a young team. Again, it reminds me of some of the flaws of talented UNH teams a decade-plus ago. Ton of offense, outscore your opponents all the way to the HE RS title, and (usually) fall short in the HE Tourney (and always in the NCAA's).

* As talented as BU very clearly is, I worry about their focus and their ability to hold up defensively in the postseason. Reminded me of any number of UNH teams during the program's glory days about a decade or so ago. Outscoring your opponents in the regular season does not translate well into postseason success, when you come up against better, more defensively organized opponents. BU will get high seeds in their postseason tourneys, but I'll be surprised if they bring home any postseason hardware.

There are two teams in the league who have the institutional blueprint for postseason success right now; Lowell has won the last two HE tourneys, and anyone who dismisses them from a 3rd does so at their own risk. And (as much as it KILLS me to say it) BC still has enough juice on the national level to know how to transition successfully into the postseason. Don't get me wrong - if it comes down to BU vs. BC this year (or any year), I am rooting for the Terriers unconditionally. Some things never change, and that's one of them. :)

Comparing UNH to BU right now ... BU is shopping in a talent department store at the top end of retail, while UNH is trying to move up out of the "Wal-Mart" recruiting (in general) of the past few seasons back into the next level of recruits. Both teams are struggling with some of the same issues arising out of lack of exoerience, as I see it. But BU's talent level has enabled them to cover for a lot of the same mistakes we see the 'Cats making regularly this year.

Maybe with another solid recruiting class coming up, UNH moves back into the top half of HE next season. The last several weekends have been encouraging. For some perspective on the difference between an experienced team and an inexperienced one ... think about how easily UNH ran BU out of its own building at around this time last season. Many of the current BU squad was part of that team, while most of the top end UNH talent is no longer in Durham. Not that it's relevant in any way, shape or form ... but if you magically could match up this year's BU team with last year's UNH team, I would pick the 'Cats to expose BU's defensive frailties all night long, and UNH's experienced defensive core (TvR, Knodel, Agosta, Pesce, etc.) to do a much better job of containing BU's talented forwards.


BU lost a PWR point tonight to drop them to third, and UNH gained a PWR point to climb from a tie at 40th to a tie at 37th, not that PWR means anything for UNH at this point, but at least we leapfrogged UConn. The Cats should be able to run the table and pick up 8 points for probable home ice in the first round of the HEA tournament, but will they? But, should we win two of three, home or away, we would be going back to Agganis for two of three, if I am not mistaken. At least the Cats learned tonight that they can play with anyone in HEA.

I admire your optimism about the next two weeks, Snively65. But UNH hasn't won - much less swept - a season series this season to date against HE competition. It's all splits, except for Lowell and UMaine sweeping UNH, and BC taking 3 out of 4 points. So as much as we may have a tendency to dismiss UConn as a "newcomer", and may still think of Merrimack as our "home away from home", those are assumptions that may have been revelant to "old" UNH reality, but is a far cry from the current UNH reality.

It's a stretch to think a team that's yet to win a season series in HE is somehow going to do the trick for the first time in postseason. That's all I'm saying. Stranger things have happened, and it would be a great jumping-off point for Coach Umile and his young team to start from next Fall. There have been some encouraging signs, including emerging from this last stretch of tough games at .500.

Keep in mind ... to get to 8th place, you're going to have to overtake UConn AND UMaine. That means the following:

* Against UConn next weekend, anything but a UNH sweep means you won't be catching them (UConn has one game left, but against last place UMass). Even a 3 point weekend leaves UNH a point behind the guys from Storrs, and would probably force UNH to take at least 3 points against Merrimack on the final weekend to overcome UConn;

* Against Merrimack on the final RS weekend ... well, the Warriors will be finishing their season with 4 straight on the road, including two at UVM this coming weekend. Currently a point behind UNH, one would think UNH *should* fare better against UConn than 11th place Merrimack fares against UVM, so the gap over the Warriors *should* widen. The ideal UNH scenario would be a sweep over UConn and a UVM sweep over Merrimack, which would lock Merrimack out of first round home ice, and make the final two games meaningless to the Warriors (and VERY meaningful to the 'Cats). UNH should have a VERY good chance of finishing ahead of at least Merrimack;

* Now the X factor is UMaine, and they face Northeastern and Providence in their final two weekends. Both of those teams are in the top half of the HE standings, but Northeastern may be looking ahead to the Beanpot Finals Monday after next, which is right after their two games with UMaine. UMaine can pull away and lock UNH out of the top 8 with 6 points over the last two weekends, and realistically even a .500 finish over the last two weekends would force UNH to be perfect in their last four games.

I'll predict UNH finds one (but not two) sweeps over the next two weekends and finishes in 9th place, overcoming UConn, holding off Merrimack, but failing to pass UMaine. Which sets up a UNH @ UMaine first round series. Won't that be fun?!?

And once BU wipes out the Golden Posers from South Bend next weekend, the winner of UNH-UMaine does get to go back to Agganis, which I know will make HockeyRef a very very happy gal indeed. :)
 
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Please, please, not an opening round in Orono. Speaking of which, have the Cats and Bears ever before faced off in the HEA first round?
 
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Chuck rather than copy your entire post I appreciated your scenarios. And yes, now that I know how to get to Agganis, I'd be thrilled to visit again.... ;) UNH is going to wish they had those two UMaine games in their pocket that's for sure. We are going to be finish most likely out of home ice (of course, 'member last year when BU did the unthinkable and beat, who was it...can't remember) so we will take what we get. This team gets no props really for last night's win from most in the hockey world, the pundits pointing to 'its just one game and UNH is really no better a team for it". Well that's sports I guess and haters are gonna hate. We'll see what we do with this win, I am no fool and recognize our weaknesses (yes, even through my rose colored glasses and pom poms) and they've been basically the same for most of the season.

I'd put them out there but why bother when there are many others who are so glad and quick to do so as if we aren't aware. :p Anyhoo all we can do now is play the best hockey of the season, stop leaving our GK's out to dry, and, with a little luck, maybe, just maybe, get Grayson D back into the line up and roll the proverbial puck. The team feels good about last night and as they should. We've had some good stuff happen this season despite it all but they don't add up in the W column. Right now it's back to work boys; it's gonna be a bumpy ride!!!

Ps Chuck you mentioned our wins against BU last year..we swept them 3-1 at their house (that rescheduled Monday game) and oddly/ interestingly we barely held 'em off at the Whitt having a 3-0 first period lead to win 4-3...also on Valentine's Day...
 
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Please, please, not an opening round in Orono. Speaking of which, have the Cats and Bears ever before faced off in the HEA first round?

Ugh. Can't even imagine...Please hockey Gods..anywhere but there. (well, anywhere but there and ND :mad::eek: )
 
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Chuck rather than copy your entire post I appreciated your scenarios. And yes, now that I know how to get to Agganis, I'd be thrilled to visit again.... ;) UNH is going to wish they had those two UMaine games in their pocket that's for sure. We are going to be finish most likely out of home ice (of course, 'member last year when BU did the unthinkable and beat, who was it...can't remember) so we will take what we get. This team gets no props really for last night's win from most in the hockey world, the pundits pointing to 'its just one game and UNH is really no better a team for it". Well that's sports I guess and haters are gonna hate. We'll see what we do with this win, I am no fool and recognize our weaknesses (yes, even through my rose colored glasses and pom poms) and they've been basically the same for most of the season.

I'd put them out there but why bother when there are many others who are so glad and quick to do so as if we aren't aware. :p Anyhoo all we can do now is play the best hockey of the season, stop leaving our GK's out to dry, and, with a little luck, maybe, just maybe, get Grayson D back into the line up and roll the proverbial puck. The team feels good about last night and as they should. We've had some good stuff happen this season despite it all but they don't add up in the W column. Right now it's back to work boys; it's gonna be a bumpy ride!!!

I do think this team is better than their record but unfortunately that and a $5 dollar bill will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks! FWIW, last nights win was a good win though. Hard to fathom how they have been so up and down. Bad combination of youth, defections and off ice issues I guess. I'm hoping for a worst to first type situation similar to BU last year versus this year!
 
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UCONN last 6: 1-3-2. GF: 8, GA: 29
UCONN last 4: 1-3-0. GF: 3, GA: 25
 
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You're thread is such a pleasure to read. Thoughtful and insightful analysis of your team that is troll and ******* free. Hold on a sec, what a boring ****ing thread. Go find some trolls and *******s, will ya! :)

Good luck the rest of the way. I have always rooted for UNH on the big stage when BU isn't in the mix. Hopefully you'll get your NC someday soon.
 
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Lowell is built to win in the NCAAs? Seriously? Their goaltending is abysmal, team D is ranked 35th, and penalty kill, ranked 46th as one of the worst I've ever seen. I agree with the comments that BU has to shore up its defensive breakdowns if we're going to make a postseason run, but Lowell is hardly an example of a team built to win in the postseason. Subpar goaltending and a horrible PK is like a basketball team going into the NCAA tournament who can't hit free throws or the three point shot - they won't win anything. I would peg Providence as a not BU or BC HE team who has a good chance at stringing together a few NCAA wins.
 
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Lowell is built to win in the NCAAs? Seriously? Their goaltending is abysmal, team D is ranked 35th, and penalty kill, ranked 46th as one of the worst I've ever seen. I agree with the comments that BU has to shore up its defensive breakdowns if we're going to make a postseason run, but Lowell is hardly an example of a team built to win in the postseason. Subpar goaltending and a horrible PK is like a basketball team going into the NCAA tournament who can't hit free throws or the three point shot - they won't win anything. I would peg Providence as a not BU or BC HE team who has a good chance at stringing together a few NCAA wins.

Lowell has won the last two HE Tourneys, and has recent success in the NCAA's to draw upon as well. Maybe some of the players have changed, but the coach is still there, knows how to win in the postseason, and they likely won't have to play on the road to get back to the Garden. Maybe Boyle isn't Hellebuyck, but "abysmal" is a bit of an overstatement, no? I'm sure Coach Bazin will be working OT to address the shortcomings on the PK - whether it's with the performance of the PK itself and/or simply staying out of the box.

What I said was, "dismiss Lowell at your peril". Programs with a history of winning in the postseason tend to do better than those who have no recent such history, and both BU and Providence fall into that category at this point.

A couple of seasons ago, both Lowell and Providence were on a similar trajectory, with new coaches and newfound success, and outlooks that seemed destined for the top of HE. Lowell's promise has since been realized, while Coach Leaman still has yet to convince me he's in Coach Bazin's class. Maybe my perception is tainted a bit with Providence's loss to UNH in the HE Semis last season, followed by the Riverhawks dominating the next evening to clinch back-to-backs.

Ultimately I'm an ABBC guy when it comes to the tourney hardware (not to mention the pure sacrilege of the South Benders taking the hardware out of New England), so whether it's Lowell or Providence or BU or whomever ... to the victors go the spoils. I just have this hunch BU won't be getting it done this year. And if that hunch is centered around Coach Bazin being only one of three current HE head coaches to have actually won the league tourney, then so be it. And if BU doesn't win the HE Tourney, I don't see an NCAA title this season either.

JMHO.
 
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