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UNH Wildcats - Marty Scarano
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Re: UNH Wildcats - Marty Scarano
Eagles on Boulder Field just after their first album came out.
Moody Blues.
Tom Rush out on Boulder Field
Eagles on Boulder Field just after their first album came out.
Patman
Rodent of Unusual Size
e.cat
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Don't know how I missed the Eagles but I think I did
At the time, very few had ever heard of them. "Take It Easy" was just starting to get some airtime.
e.cat
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Ya. I probably thought they were some rag tag Hippies from California and couldn't be bothered
FiveHole12
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Re: UNH Wildcats - Marty Scarano
I saw them and Dan Fogelberg at the Music Hall in Boston just before the 'One Of These Nights' album came out. They played BOTH albums that night, and Folgelberg joined them for 4 songs in the encore. Great concert!
HockeyRef
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Ha you guys are dating yourselves...love it
. Here's a concert for the ages the old Gillette Stafium Boz Scaggs, Fleetwood Mac and The Eagles when Joe Walsh had just joined them...Ah those were the daze ExHockeyguy
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Re: UNH Wildcats - Marty Scarano
Red Hot Chili Peppers, after having their field house show cancelled by the administration (due to the lack of clothes they wore on stage at the time), played a free show on a Saturday afternoon between the upper and lower quads (on the tennis courts). It had rained buckets for a couple weeks and been a cold spring in general. That morning dawned hot and sunny, we had a vodka breakfast on our (SAE) front lawn, and proceeded to mosh for two hours in 8 inches of mud. Phenomenal. 1990, methinks.
It was also around that time that we ended the longest ever home losing streak in basketball. IIRC, we lost a "guaranteed win" night the previous game, where DHOP or some other restaurant lost their shirt. We won the next game, and I think attendance doubled after halftime!
Red Hot Chili Peppers, after having their field house show cancelled by the administration (due to the lack of clothes they wore on stage at the time), played a free show on a Saturday afternoon between the upper and lower quads (on the tennis courts). It had rained buckets for a couple weeks and been a cold spring in general. That morning dawned hot and sunny, we had a vodka breakfast on our (SAE) front lawn, and proceeded to mosh for two hours in 8 inches of mud. Phenomenal. 1990, methinks.
It was also around that time that we ended the longest ever home losing streak in basketball. IIRC, we lost a "guaranteed win" night the previous game, where DHOP or some other restaurant lost their shirt. We won the next game, and I think attendance doubled after halftime!
Re: UNH Wildcats - Marty Scarano
don't remember there ever being tennis courts between upper and lower, behind Fairchild on the other hand...
We've also drifted far afield from the thread topic: FIRE MARTY!!!!!!!!!!!!
don't remember there ever being tennis courts between upper and lower, behind Fairchild on the other hand...We've also drifted far afield from the thread topic: FIRE MARTY!!!!!!!!!!!!
We've also drifted far afield from the thread topic: FIRE MARTY!!!!!!!!!!!!
Right behind Hetzel. Parking lot now. I think they were tennis courts. Else it was a parking lot. Opposite side from where Karl hung out.
http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/red-hot-chili-peppers/1990/university-of-new-hampshire-durham-nh-1bd69d1c.html
Okay, it was a parking lot. Don't know why tennis courts seemed right. Point still stands? Great day, great show.
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UncleRay
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Re: UNH Wildcats - Marty Scarano
She didn't understand why the players didn't have the same off-the-chart work ethic that she did. Kind of like how Ted failed as a hitting coach because he couldn't understand how the guys couldn't see the rotation of the seams.
Chuck Murray
WIS & Effingwoods Hockey Almanac
Re: UNH Wildcats - Marty Scarano
I'd assumed BS35 had this thread infiltrated with like-minded geezers to get us off the original topic ...
I'd assumed BS35 had this thread infiltrated with like-minded geezers to get us off the original topic ...
prideofthecats
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Re: UNH Wildcats - Marty Scarano
Look I am sorry I cannot say exactly what happened out of respect for the university and the girls on the team. I am just a student who is friends with a lot of girls on the team. I only commented on this thread because I was surprised how many people were accusing the girls of lying, etc. I GUARANTEE you would have no problem with the university's decision if you knew what happened on the bench during the game and its repercussions afterward. I honestly wish I could just tell you all what happened so that I could stop being yelled at also. Don't you think he would have to do something severe to be fired after 20 years of coaching? Again, I apologize that I cannot say what happened even though most of you won't believe what I'm saying.
Welcome aboard, Marty.So tell us ... why do most of FOWH take issue with your version of events, AND your actions?
The floor is all yours, mon ami ... let's clear this up once and for all, eh? Y'know, for "the good of the program", right??
Look I am sorry I cannot say exactly what happened out of respect for the university and the girls on the team. I am just a student who is friends with a lot of girls on the team. I only commented on this thread because I was surprised how many people were accusing the girls of lying, etc. I GUARANTEE you would have no problem with the university's decision if you knew what happened on the bench during the game and its repercussions afterward. I honestly wish I could just tell you all what happened so that I could stop being yelled at also. Don't you think he would have to do something severe to be fired after 20 years of coaching? Again, I apologize that I cannot say what happened even though most of you won't believe what I'm saying.
Don't apologize. The majority of these clowns have never played a minute of organized hockey and know nothing about the game. If they are not complaining they are not happy. I also know what happened but you will never convince the peanut gallery that the firing was absolutely the right thing to do.
Whoa, hold up.... Easy on the generalizations.
Putting myself out there as an example...
1. I've never played a minute of organized hockey (sincere apologies, but that happens in a household where the dad is a basketball coach - a good friend of Gerry Friel and Bob Berry's). In fact, I can barely skate forward. That stated, 4 years of Snively got me totally hooked on the sport and 25 years later, I'm fairly certain I could hold my own in most hockey circles.
2. I'm also willing to bet that whatever happened, one's level of hockey expertise would probably be meaningless in forming an opinion on the matter.
3. In an earlier response to Aerman, I acknowledged that I was withholding judgment until the facts came out, save for the crappy headline.
Please leave your generalizations out of this.
Sincerely,
A non-hockey-playing "clown"
Chuck Murray
WIS & Effingwoods Hockey Almanac
Re: UNH Wildcats - Marty Scarano
I'm not sure anyone is "accusing the girls of lying". I've specifically avoided even mentioning a single UNH Women's player by name in any of my postings - much less the key figure at the center of the controversy - and I think most (if not all) of the other posters here have used similar restraint. We understand there is a line none of us want to cross. But rest assured, you are not the only person on this thread who has the benefit of what one might feel is accurate "inside information" from multiple sources close to the situation.
As far as the "repercussions afterward" ... if you're trying to claim that ANYTHING rises to the level of a highly-respected coach being let go, and then having to face truly frightening "repercussions" as created by the ham-handed UNH press release issued by BS35 ... well, I'm sorry but you're going to have to go some way to convince me of that.
I do agree the question that's always begged for an answer is whether Coach's actions were sufficiently egregious to support letting him go. I've thought from Day One that this was "too convenient" ... BS35 saw an opportunity, and took it. Almost everything I've since learned has supported my initial conclusion. Your information is leading you to a different conclusion than my information has led me. That happens sometimes.
We've all had an opportunity to see the information that was posted at Foster's recently, which (while admittedly coming from Coach's standpoint) has yet to be refuted by anyone, and jibes with info I've come across from multiple reliable sources. Are you disagreeing with any of the following factual issues?
* The player in question had a long history of disciplinary issues going back to last season;
* The player in question was brought back this season only due to institutional issues (i.e. BS35) arising from low roster numbers and Title IX implications;
* The player in question was outwardly disrespectful and profane towards Coach immediately prior to the incident;
* The "incident" itself involved ONLY a harsh seating of the same player, and not something sexually inappropriate
And for what it's worth ... word on the grapevine is there was a meeting between BS35 and the FOWH board earlier this week, at which the current AD failed to convince most of the board away from their pro-McCloskey stance to date. I've gotten additional details on the meeting which I've not yet confirmed beyond the hearsay level, so they won't be posted here (yet), but overall the info has re-affirmed my initial conclusions.
No one is yelling at you ... and I don't think anyone is accusing the players of lying, while we are all being very careful not to name any UNH player names. Unfortunately only Coach McCloskey ever gets named, but that comes with the territory in coaching young student-athletes, and in fairness Coach and BS35 are the only persons involved in this sorry saga drawing a paycheck, so that's fair enough.
So ... do you disagree with any of the four factual points I've outlined above, and if so, which one(s)?
I'm not sure anyone is "accusing the girls of lying". I've specifically avoided even mentioning a single UNH Women's player by name in any of my postings - much less the key figure at the center of the controversy - and I think most (if not all) of the other posters here have used similar restraint. We understand there is a line none of us want to cross. But rest assured, you are not the only person on this thread who has the benefit of what one might feel is accurate "inside information" from multiple sources close to the situation.
As far as the "repercussions afterward" ... if you're trying to claim that ANYTHING rises to the level of a highly-respected coach being let go, and then having to face truly frightening "repercussions" as created by the ham-handed UNH press release issued by BS35 ... well, I'm sorry but you're going to have to go some way to convince me of that.
I do agree the question that's always begged for an answer is whether Coach's actions were sufficiently egregious to support letting him go. I've thought from Day One that this was "too convenient" ... BS35 saw an opportunity, and took it. Almost everything I've since learned has supported my initial conclusion. Your information is leading you to a different conclusion than my information has led me. That happens sometimes.
We've all had an opportunity to see the information that was posted at Foster's recently, which (while admittedly coming from Coach's standpoint) has yet to be refuted by anyone, and jibes with info I've come across from multiple reliable sources. Are you disagreeing with any of the following factual issues?
* The player in question had a long history of disciplinary issues going back to last season;
* The player in question was brought back this season only due to institutional issues (i.e. BS35) arising from low roster numbers and Title IX implications;
* The player in question was outwardly disrespectful and profane towards Coach immediately prior to the incident;
* The "incident" itself involved ONLY a harsh seating of the same player, and not something sexually inappropriate
And for what it's worth ... word on the grapevine is there was a meeting between BS35 and the FOWH board earlier this week, at which the current AD failed to convince most of the board away from their pro-McCloskey stance to date. I've gotten additional details on the meeting which I've not yet confirmed beyond the hearsay level, so they won't be posted here (yet), but overall the info has re-affirmed my initial conclusions.
No one is yelling at you ... and I don't think anyone is accusing the players of lying, while we are all being very careful not to name any UNH player names. Unfortunately only Coach McCloskey ever gets named, but that comes with the territory in coaching young student-athletes, and in fairness Coach and BS35 are the only persons involved in this sorry saga drawing a paycheck, so that's fair enough.
So ... do you disagree with any of the four factual points I've outlined above, and if so, which one(s)?
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prideofthecats
New member
Re: UNH Wildcats - Marty Scarano
Ok so this is the last thing I am going to say about the matter. The issue is between the school and the coach and it isn't anyone else's business.
Your first two points:
"a long history of disciplinary issues going back to last season"
"The player in question was brought back this season only due to institutional issues (i.e. BS35) arising from low roster numbers and Title IX implications"
1. I would not consider this person to have a "long history" of disciplinary issues. End of story.
2. I don't know where you got this from. Players are kept or let go for various reasons and those reasons are between the coach and player.
Most importantly, this has NOTHING to do with the incident or why he was fired.
As for your third point, players yelling back at the coach is not unusual. Regardless of what she said (which was not that bad anyway), it was not deserving of his response.
Regarding your final point, yes the contact was not sexually inappropriate. The school said "inappropriate PHYSICAL contact". The "incident" was not a harsh seating of a player. It was very physical and violent. I am actually surprised charges were not pressed by the family or school.
As for this:
"But rest assured, you are not the only person on this thread who has the benefit of what one might feel is accurate "inside information" from multiple sources close to the situation"
I'm sure you do have your sources (good or bad), but I am very good friends with several of these girls and have direct contact with them every day. I know what I am talking about and I know what happened. They all know exactly what happened, so it's not "inside information", it's just the truth.
You ladies and gents can keep arguing about this for as long as you want, but I am done talking about it. Goodbye
I'm not sure anyone is "accusing the girls of lying". I've specifically avoided even mentioning a single UNH Women's player by name in any of my postings - much less the key figure at the center of the controversy - and I think most (if not all) of the other posters here have used similar restraint. We understand there is a line none of us want to cross. But rest assured, you are not the only person on this thread who has the benefit of what one might feel is accurate "inside information" from multiple sources close to the situation.
As far as the "repercussions afterward" ... if you're trying to claim that ANYTHING rises to the level of a highly-respected coach being let go, and then having to face truly frightening "repercussions" as created by the ham-handed UNH press release issued by BS35 ... well, I'm sorry but you're going to have to go some way to convince me of that.
I do agree the question that's always begged for an answer is whether Coach's actions were sufficiently egregious to support letting him go. I've thought from Day One that this was "too convenient" ... BS35 saw an opportunity, and took it. Almost everything I've since learned has supported my initial conclusion. Your information is leading you to a different conclusion than my information has led me. That happens sometimes.
We've all had an opportunity to see the information that was posted at Foster's recently, which (while admittedly coming from Coach's standpoint) has yet to be refuted by anyone, and jibes with info I've come across from multiple reliable sources. Are you disagreeing with any of the following factual issues?
* The player in question had a long history of disciplinary issues going back to last season;
* The player in question was brought back this season only due to institutional issues (i.e. BS35) arising from low roster numbers and Title IX implications;
* The player in question was outwardly disrespectful and profane towards Coach immediately prior to the incident;
* The "incident" itself involved ONLY a harsh seating of the same player, and not something sexually inappropriate
And for what it's worth ... word on the grapevine is there was a meeting between BS35 and the FOWH board earlier this week, at which the current AD failed to convince most of the board away from their pro-McCloskey stance to date. I've gotten additional details on the meeting which I've not yet confirmed beyond the hearsay level, so they won't be posted here (yet), but overall the info has re-affirmed my initial conclusions.
No one is yelling at you ... and I don't think anyone is accusing the players of lying, while we are all being very careful not to name any UNH player names. Unfortunately only Coach McCloskey ever gets named, but that comes with the territory in coaching young student-athletes, and in fairness Coach and BS35 are the only persons involved in this sorry saga drawing a paycheck, so that's fair enough.
So ... do you disagree with any of the four factual points I've outlined above, and if so, which one(s)?
Ok so this is the last thing I am going to say about the matter. The issue is between the school and the coach and it isn't anyone else's business.
Your first two points:
"a long history of disciplinary issues going back to last season"
"The player in question was brought back this season only due to institutional issues (i.e. BS35) arising from low roster numbers and Title IX implications"
1. I would not consider this person to have a "long history" of disciplinary issues. End of story.
2. I don't know where you got this from. Players are kept or let go for various reasons and those reasons are between the coach and player.
Most importantly, this has NOTHING to do with the incident or why he was fired.
As for your third point, players yelling back at the coach is not unusual. Regardless of what she said (which was not that bad anyway), it was not deserving of his response.
Regarding your final point, yes the contact was not sexually inappropriate. The school said "inappropriate PHYSICAL contact". The "incident" was not a harsh seating of a player. It was very physical and violent. I am actually surprised charges were not pressed by the family or school.
As for this:
"But rest assured, you are not the only person on this thread who has the benefit of what one might feel is accurate "inside information" from multiple sources close to the situation"
I'm sure you do have your sources (good or bad), but I am very good friends with several of these girls and have direct contact with them every day. I know what I am talking about and I know what happened. They all know exactly what happened, so it's not "inside information", it's just the truth.
You ladies and gents can keep arguing about this for as long as you want, but I am done talking about it. Goodbye
The Zlax45
Registered User
Thanks for bringing nothing to this situation! Good job Marty!