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UNH Wildcats 2021/2022 - Return of the Champions of October?

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Dan, I’m interested in whether you don’t think they’ve pursued these NH kids or whether they have been unsuccessful. Because I would have a hard time believing the former.

Not arguing with you, just trying to understand your perspective.
 
Confirmed:

Longtime UNH athletic director Marty Scarano announced he'll retire at end of the 2021-22 athletic year.Tom King (@Telegraph_TomK)
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https://unhwildcats.com/news/2021/11/22/ScaranoRetirement.aspx


University President James Dean announced a national search to find a new Director of Athletics will begin immediately. Scarano is expected to remain at the University through the end of the academic year and assist in the transition process.

"It is with mixed feelings that I announce Marty Scarano will retire as director of athletics at the end of the current season after 22 years with the university," Dean said. "I am grateful for Marty's strong commitment to the university, the athletics program and all our student-athletes."
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Place your drink orders now.

LOL at "mixed feelings" Nice ambiguity.


"At the end of the athletic year" means Souza has security through next year.


wildcatdc said:
Dan, I'm interested in whether you don't think they've pursued these NH kids or whether they have been unsuccessful. Because I would have a hard time believing the former.
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Hard time believing UNH pursued these legacies? These are elite players, so if UNH was not pursuing them that is one type of problem. I suspect for most its the latter. A kid like Muir is borderline, so he could be the former, but for Morrow, Rickwood, Wood, etc., they're elite talent.
 
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NCAA watcher said:
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https://unhwildcats.com/news/2021/11/22/ScaranoRetirement.aspx



Place your drink orders now.

LOL at "mixed feelings" Nice ambiguity.


"At the end of the athletic year" means Souza has security through next year.




Hard time believing UNH pursued these legacies? These are elite players, so if UNH was not pursuing them that is one type of problem. I suspect for most its the latter. A kid like Muir is borderline, so he could be the former, but for Morrow, Rickwood, Wood, etc., they're elite talent.
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jeez, Watcher - please carefully reread Dan’s post and my response.
 
wildcatdc said:
jeez, Watcher - please carefully reread Dan’s post and my response.
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Apologies. Got tripped up in the negatives. What kind of drink will you want?

But it's a week of Giving Thanks. I wish I knew the AD market to see who they will want. A hockey school, or broader perspective?
Either way, the new AD will have clean slate to learn the programs the first year, and decide what to do.
 
wildcatdc said:
Dan, I’m interested in whether you don’t think they’ve pursued these NH kids or whether they have been unsuccessful. Because I would have a hard time believing the former.

Not arguing with you, just trying to understand your perspective.
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Im not sure, I don't have any inside information and I'm not sure it matters - the reality that they are landing none of these prospects for whom they should have an inside track is problematic no matter the reason. It's a failure.

I would also have a hard time believing they haven't pursued these kids - but what does 'pursued' mean. I have a hard time forgetting Souza's line about wanting kids who 'want' UNH - that is an issue, because these kids do not know what they want and it is the recruiter's job to convince them they want UNH. Period. It is certainly strange not to hear any link between many of these kids and UNH throughout the process, however...

There are FAR too many Division I coaches - in every sport - who make the recruiting decision for the prospect, because they fear losing out on a recruit or 'wasting their time' pursuing a top player. It's FAR from uncommon and I'm certainly not convinced UNH is putting the full court press on these prospects and making them decline an offer. Does the staff actually believe they are capable of recruiting these players? Or that their program offers enough to attract these players? If they do not get high interest immediately do they forge ahead? I have my doubts...

So whether they ignore these prospects to begin with, give up too soon or simply lack the salesmanship to close top prospects doesn't really matter. They're not getting any of them - even with a built in advantage.

It raises many questions, but my opinion/point is simply that an aggressive and capable recruiter would/should have capitalized and UNH would/could be back on track...
 
There are always PLENTY of people who want your (fill in the blank - customers, girlfriend, recruits, VP of Marketing, ad infinitum) so you better be going after theirs or you will end up like ....... UNH Hockey. If you are not growing, you are dying.

Tom Nolan had offers from Michigan St, BU and others - He CHOSE UNH. Sean Collins had offers from everywhere - He CHOSE UNH. Go down the list of UNH greats and most had choices elsewhere. Why did they come to UNH? Ask McCloskey, Coady, Norton, Cullen and others who went out and SOLD some 18-20 year olds on why coming to Durham was worth their time.
 
Good for Mike Robinson!


The #HockeyEast Men's Goaltender of the Week is Mike Robinson, who made 32 saves and only allowed 1 goal for @UNHMHOCKEY
on Saturday in a 2-1 OT win over UMass. Robinson finished the contest with a .970 sv%.
 
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I wish I knew the AD market to see who they will want. A hockey school, or broader perspective?
Either way, the new AD will have clean slate to learn the programs the first year, and decide what to do.
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Football in bad need of a reset as well as hockey....
 
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Apologies. Got tripped up in the negatives. What kind of drink will you want?

But it's a week of Giving Thanks. I wish I knew the AD market to see who they will want. A hockey school, or broader perspective?
Either way, the new AD will have clean slate to learn the programs the first year, and decide what to do.
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These days I will drink anything that temporarily drowns out the noise of my 3-year-old and 6-month-old sons. :-)
 
Dan said:
Im not sure, I don't have any inside information and I'm not sure it matters - the reality that they are landing none of these prospects for whom they should have an inside track is problematic no matter the reason. It's a failure.

I would also have a hard time believing they haven't pursued these kids - but what does 'pursued' mean. I have a hard time forgetting Souza's line about wanting kids who 'want' UNH - that is an issue, because these kids do not know what they want and it is the recruiter's job to convince them they want UNH. Period. It is certainly strange not to hear any link between many of these kids and UNH throughout the process, however...

There are FAR too many Division I coaches - in every sport - who make the recruiting decision for the prospect, because they fear losing out on a recruit or 'wasting their time' pursuing a top player. It's FAR from uncommon and I'm certainly not convinced UNH is putting the full court press on these prospects and making them decline an offer. Does the staff actually believe they are capable of recruiting these players? Or that their program offers enough to attract these players? If they do not get high interest immediately do they forge ahead? I have my doubts...

So whether they ignore these prospects to begin with, give up too soon or simply lack the salesmanship to close top prospects doesn't really matter. They're not getting any of them - even with a built in advantage.

It raises many questions, but my opinion/point is simply that an aggressive and capable recruiter would/should have capitalized and UNH would/could be back on track...
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Got it. I just wasn’t sure whether you thought they were chasing NH kids. Have to imagine they are. But you’re right - doesn’t matter if they aren’t in Durham in the end.
 
Big day for UNH. Reminds me of the BC fans languishing under their prior AD, and the new AD Kraft comes in in 2020 and hires Hafley who puts them on an upward trajectory for football.

Let's hope the new AD has a similar impact (and looks outside of the UNH alum network).
 
This is exceptional news, an optimistic day and a critical moment for the future of UNH Athletics - potentially a great moment for M/W Hockey (destroyed), M/W Basketball (ignored) and Football (rose & fell in spite of the department). Congrats on the strong soccer hire - quite a legacy...
 
Absolutely wonderful news.

Perhaps based on James Dean word choice "with mixed feelings" and the results of the 2021 Athletics Financial Health Report which showed UNH Athletics was losing 2-3 million a year he may have been pushed out. However it went down, hopefully the new AD is young and hungry and makes a push the get the hockey program relevant again. If they hire someone who fits that mold - Souza's days are limited.
 
I am unsure about when exactly Ryan Bamford took over at UMass but when he had the opp to bring in Carvel and Co he didn't hesitate. Of course that opportunity presented it self (they were leaving St. Lawrence but only as a packaged deal). You know the rest of that story. Who knows what the immediate future holds for UNH but I hope they cast a wide net. As you say Teez, young and hungry.
 
teez said:
Absolutely wonderful news.

Perhaps based on James Dean word choice "with mixed feelings" and the results of the 2021 Athletics Financial Health Report which showed UNH Athletics was losing 2-3 million a year he may have been pushed out. However it went down, hopefully the new AD is young and hungry and makes a push the get the hockey program relevant again. If they hire someone who fits that mold - Souza's days are limited.
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Wouldn’t be surprised AT ALL if Marty was shown the door. A push to make hockey relevant has to be the priority. UNH is a hockey school, hands down. No disrespect to football, basketball or the other programs, but Men’s Hockey is the real money maker for the university (well it once was and needs to be again), the fact it’s been sucking wind for so long now has got to be an issue with Jimmy Dean. I have no idea who’s available out there, but they better be a hockey guy or gal, anything less is not acceptable.
 
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