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UNH Wildcats 2016-17 -- We're Going to Have a Hockey Season Here!!
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Re: UNH Wildcats 2016-17 -- We're Going to Have a Hockey Season Here!!
We saw Clark and a couple other players warming up with a soccer ball on the concourse when we were doing our "pre-game walk". He looked pretty healthy to me, all three goalies were dressed for the game.
We saw Clark and a couple other players warming up with a soccer ball on the concourse when we were doing our "pre-game walk". He looked pretty healthy to me, all three goalies were dressed for the game.
deltabravo62
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Re: UNH Wildcats 2016-17 -- We're Going to Have a Hockey Season Here!!
Did anyone see Clark taking shots in warmups? I only saw him stretching and warming up at center ice. Either way, the fact that he was dressed for the game is promising.
Question for the group, what do you do with McNicholas when Vela gets back? Do you demote Miller and have McNick center that line? Do you break up the freshman line? (in my opinion demoting BvR if you do that) Or do you let him rot away on the 4th line? I was not happy with the really bad turnover and the bad penalty at the end but his overall play tonight was decent for a getting the rust out game. While I like the freshman 3rd line I think they could use some experience up the middle with McNick and let Blackburn and Grasso run the wings. McNicholas centering Eiserman and Vela sounds good to me as well. Don't get me wrong, I think Miller is a good player, I just do not think right now he is your best 2nd line center with #11 back in the mix.
Did anyone see Clark taking shots in warmups? I only saw him stretching and warming up at center ice. Either way, the fact that he was dressed for the game is promising.
Question for the group, what do you do with McNicholas when Vela gets back? Do you demote Miller and have McNick center that line? Do you break up the freshman line? (in my opinion demoting BvR if you do that) Or do you let him rot away on the 4th line? I was not happy with the really bad turnover and the bad penalty at the end but his overall play tonight was decent for a getting the rust out game. While I like the freshman 3rd line I think they could use some experience up the middle with McNick and let Blackburn and Grasso run the wings. McNicholas centering Eiserman and Vela sounds good to me as well. Don't get me wrong, I think Miller is a good player, I just do not think right now he is your best 2nd line center with #11 back in the mix.
Yes, in a heartbeat I make this decision...
Yes; 4C's = Colorado College Cup Cake. It takes a cup cake to know a cup cake.
skyraider0609
Lighten up, Francis
Re: UNH Wildcats 2016-17 -- We're Going to Have a Hockey Season Here!!
What could Dickie be referring to? Last night's attendance? Recruiting? The program's competitive level? There are so many possibilities.
What could Dickie be referring to? Last night's attendance? Recruiting? The program's competitive level? There are so many possibilities.
NCAA watcher
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Re: UNH Wildcats 2016-17 -- We're Going to Have a Hockey Season Here!!
You left out one level above Dickie. The women are 1-6, so Marty's seamless transition plans are stupendous.
You left out one level above Dickie. The women are 1-6, so Marty's seamless transition plans are stupendous.
Darius
Go 'cats!
Re: UNH Wildcats 2016-17 -- We're Going to Have a Hockey Season Here!!
I offered that playing us after BC must be like a get out of jail card. They agreed. I mentioned having to play BC twice every year. They responded with CC having to play North Dakota four times every year.
Chatting with some CC fans/parents last night, there was clear agreement that we were watching a cup cake tilt.Agreed 100%.
Not really. Do you have a better word for a 1-4-0 team with its only prior win as part of a split with UMass?
I'm not sure if you've checked in before ... but I've qualified this whole thing with the disclaimer that IF you can't spot the cupcakes on your schedule, it's likely that means YOU are the cupcake. That still stands.
I offered that playing us after BC must be like a get out of jail card. They agreed. I mentioned having to play BC twice every year. They responded with CC having to play North Dakota four times every year.
After the Whistle
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Re: UNH Wildcats 2016-17 -- We're Going to Have a Hockey Season Here!!
db62
Great questions. i was asking those in bed last night as I tried to find sleep after another tough game. McNic has very good hands and a strong shot, but is not very strong in the corner or on the boards. I like Millers game a lot but he just can't seem to produce. Most of his production came in the first half of last year. Fast careful with the puck, but.... I too like the 3rd line as is but they continue to struggle finding chemistry. Not sure if this is where you put Miller? I am still a 3vR fan and continue to think that there is more there than has yet appeared. These are kids (vRs) who are just great human beings and lack the hunger/desperation of some young hopefuls. It will come.
We can slam the D, but 2 shots = 2 goals, OMG! This isn't a team than can dig out of holes game after game. Plus down 2 requires an approach to your offense that they are not ready for at this point in the season.
db62
Great questions. i was asking those in bed last night as I tried to find sleep after another tough game. McNic has very good hands and a strong shot, but is not very strong in the corner or on the boards. I like Millers game a lot but he just can't seem to produce. Most of his production came in the first half of last year. Fast careful with the puck, but.... I too like the 3rd line as is but they continue to struggle finding chemistry. Not sure if this is where you put Miller? I am still a 3vR fan and continue to think that there is more there than has yet appeared. These are kids (vRs) who are just great human beings and lack the hunger/desperation of some young hopefuls. It will come.
We can slam the D, but 2 shots = 2 goals, OMG! This isn't a team than can dig out of holes game after game. Plus down 2 requires an approach to your offense that they are not ready for at this point in the season.
One difference between these two cup cakes is that 4C's actually has some hardware, albeit quite old.
CatsFan1983
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Not a great argument with the women. We know the issues with the men's program, but the women are a lot better this year with good recruiting classes on the way, including this years freshman class. The women's record is deceiving, they've played 6 of their first 7 games against top 10 teams in the country (not Bentley and CC) and have been competitive and in every game going into the third. They are much further along in the rebuild.
deltabravo62
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Re: UNH Wildcats 2016-17 -- We're Going to Have a Hockey Season Here!!
Agreed, having watched 5-7 womens games the last 4 seasons and 2 so far this year, their rebuild is much further along. The record isn't there yet but they appear to be on the way out of the hole and the mens team may not have even reached the bottom yet. We shall see though.
Agreed, having watched 5-7 womens games the last 4 seasons and 2 so far this year, their rebuild is much further along. The record isn't there yet but they appear to be on the way out of the hole and the mens team may not have even reached the bottom yet. We shall see though.
Chuck Murray
WIS & Effingwoods Hockey Almanac
Re: UNH Wildcats 2016-17 -- We're Going to Have a Hockey Season Here!!
http://www.seacoastonline.com/sport...low-starts-continue-to-plague-unh-mens-hockey
Take your pick.
Actually, Coach's quote was preceded by the writer's following observation, which provides the only context on what the "pathetic" comment was directed towards:
In the first 240 minutes of the season, the Wildcats have led for only 99 seconds.
Coach was not exactly expansive in his quoted assessments of the game (I think sonar quoted the whole thing actually), but you've gotta think he's starting to feel the heat, and his impatience for a quick start for his troops this season may be wearing thin quickly.
I did find the following player quote interesting and insightful though ...
“It’s definitely not what we wanted,” Salvaggio said. “Next game we’ve got to come out jumping. We’ve got to get the first one. No more excuses. Playing from behind is tough. We need the lead.”
Hmmm ... play with a lead ... important ... no mention of SOG's ... sounds familiar ...
http://www.seacoastonline.com/sport...low-starts-continue-to-plague-unh-mens-hockey
Take your pick.
Actually, Coach's quote was preceded by the writer's following observation, which provides the only context on what the "pathetic" comment was directed towards:In the first 240 minutes of the season, the Wildcats have led for only 99 seconds.
Coach was not exactly expansive in his quoted assessments of the game (I think sonar quoted the whole thing actually), but you've gotta think he's starting to feel the heat, and his impatience for a quick start for his troops this season may be wearing thin quickly.
I did find the following player quote interesting and insightful though ...
“It’s definitely not what we wanted,” Salvaggio said. “Next game we’ve got to come out jumping. We’ve got to get the first one. No more excuses. Playing from behind is tough. We need the lead.”
Hmmm ... play with a lead ... important ... no mention of SOG's ... sounds familiar ...
Chuck Murray
WIS & Effingwoods Hockey Almanac
Re: UNH Wildcats 2016-17 -- We're Going to Have a Hockey Season Here!!
Once again, it's time ... from WIS Productions, here's the latest chapter of "Umile's Last Stand - The _____ for 600".
Umile's Last Stand - The Quest for 600"
Coach Umile's current career wins total: 572
Wins Remaining to the next round number: 28
*Games Remaining (Next 2 Seasons - Min.): 68
Win Pct. Required to Hit Target: approx. 41%
WIS Estimated Likelihood of Success: 75%
2016/2017 Cupcake Quotient to Date: 0/2 (0%)
After an uplifting come-from-behind win over Clarkson to close out the previous weekend in the North Country, there was reason for optimism as the 1-4-0 Colorado College Tigers traveled to Durham, with the 'Cats looking to be good value for a win to even up their record at 2-2-0. But not so quick ... two early SHG's by the visitors against G Dan ("Mr. Hyde") Tirone and his inexperienced teammates put UNH behind the figurative 8-ball, and although the hosts would eventually draw even in the 2nd period, the Tigers would get a 3rd period winner, sending the 'Cats to a second straight loss to a fellow cupcake to get the season off to an increasingly ominous start. And while on the subject of "ominous" and "starts" ... rumors of an aggravation of G Adam Clark's shoulder injury seem to have been overstated, and WIS observers fully expect Clark will get another start in goal for the 'Cats next weekend, as Coach Umile continues to search for salvation between the pipes. Also, the returns to the line-up of Hill and McNicholas was a silver lining and offers reason for hope, and while no explanations have been offered as to the reason(s) for their absences ... anything that unlinks the terms "Dylan Chanter" and "fourth line center" needs no further explanation to this corner.
Looking at the big picture ... WIS experts had projected Coach Umile's Wildcats would amass at least 10 wins in the opening 18 game stretch of the season, until the calendar changes to 2017. WIS is reviewing its position on this projection. The road win against non-cupcake Clarkson arguably made up lost ground squandered against the Fightin' Beancounters in the season opener, but this past weekend's home loss to the Paper Tigers gave it right back, and caused concerns in this corner about whether the 10 win projection is still attainable. Four (4) straight cupcakes loom just over the horizon for the next two weekends, and with 3 of those games at home, these shape up as pivotal games on whether Coach's quest for the next round number remains on course and viable.
Given concerns about an early inability to devour home cupcakes, WIS has slightly downgraded Coach Umile's chances for success in his quest to what is still a robust 75% likelihood, since Coach has historically won well over 40% of his games. As mentioned in this space last weekend ... so long as this year's team meets modest expectations for 15 wins, you gotta believe BS35+4 and Coach will put together an NC schedule for next season that makes this year's NC schedule look like the highway to he11 - or perhaps even apply for temporary AHA membership? The quest though remains in the balance, and WIS is watching extra closely over these next two weekends, when the parade of cupcakes begins in earnest.
Predictions:
Friday: UNH 3 @ UMass 1
Saturday: UNH 4 Merrimack 3 (OT)
NEXT CUPCAKES ON THE SHELF: 11/4/16 @ home vs. Sacred Heart; 11/5/16 @ home vs. Mercyhurst
IS BS35+4 PAYING ATTENTION YET?
Doubtful. UNH Football bounced back with a key win against Towson State this weekend, moving the Football 'Cats to a 5-3-0 record, where 2 wins in their last 3 games probably gets UNH back in the D-2 tourney (this is a recording). I'm sure the voluminous paperwork for hosting D-2 playoff games is all but completed and ready for submission at the opportune moment. Otherwise, this is a time of year for family, and with the NHIAA beginning its Fall postseason tourney slate this coming week, two D-2 programs near and dear to his heart look to be in the thick of things at least for another week, if not two. This past weekend was probably a nice opportunity to catch up with old friends from Colorado College, no doubt, and reminisce about the good ol' days when BS35+4 was known to his CC pals as a much more modest BS20+2. It's possible they never even bothered to catch the game at The Whitt, and even if they did, our boy probably thinks CC is still a national D-1 power like they were during his time out there during the Coach Lucia and Coach Owens eras.
* - minimum games remaining assumes 34 regular season games, and at least 2 games in the MBPBEGAM "playoffs"
Once again, it's time ... from WIS Productions, here's the latest chapter of "Umile's Last Stand - The _____ for 600".
Umile's Last Stand - The Quest for 600"
Coach Umile's current career wins total: 572
Wins Remaining to the next round number: 28
*Games Remaining (Next 2 Seasons - Min.): 68
Win Pct. Required to Hit Target: approx. 41%
WIS Estimated Likelihood of Success: 75%
2016/2017 Cupcake Quotient to Date: 0/2 (0%)
After an uplifting come-from-behind win over Clarkson to close out the previous weekend in the North Country, there was reason for optimism as the 1-4-0 Colorado College Tigers traveled to Durham, with the 'Cats looking to be good value for a win to even up their record at 2-2-0. But not so quick ... two early SHG's by the visitors against G Dan ("Mr. Hyde") Tirone and his inexperienced teammates put UNH behind the figurative 8-ball, and although the hosts would eventually draw even in the 2nd period, the Tigers would get a 3rd period winner, sending the 'Cats to a second straight loss to a fellow cupcake to get the season off to an increasingly ominous start. And while on the subject of "ominous" and "starts" ... rumors of an aggravation of G Adam Clark's shoulder injury seem to have been overstated, and WIS observers fully expect Clark will get another start in goal for the 'Cats next weekend, as Coach Umile continues to search for salvation between the pipes. Also, the returns to the line-up of Hill and McNicholas was a silver lining and offers reason for hope, and while no explanations have been offered as to the reason(s) for their absences ... anything that unlinks the terms "Dylan Chanter" and "fourth line center" needs no further explanation to this corner.
Looking at the big picture ... WIS experts had projected Coach Umile's Wildcats would amass at least 10 wins in the opening 18 game stretch of the season, until the calendar changes to 2017. WIS is reviewing its position on this projection. The road win against non-cupcake Clarkson arguably made up lost ground squandered against the Fightin' Beancounters in the season opener, but this past weekend's home loss to the Paper Tigers gave it right back, and caused concerns in this corner about whether the 10 win projection is still attainable. Four (4) straight cupcakes loom just over the horizon for the next two weekends, and with 3 of those games at home, these shape up as pivotal games on whether Coach's quest for the next round number remains on course and viable.
Given concerns about an early inability to devour home cupcakes, WIS has slightly downgraded Coach Umile's chances for success in his quest to what is still a robust 75% likelihood, since Coach has historically won well over 40% of his games. As mentioned in this space last weekend ... so long as this year's team meets modest expectations for 15 wins, you gotta believe BS35+4 and Coach will put together an NC schedule for next season that makes this year's NC schedule look like the highway to he11 - or perhaps even apply for temporary AHA membership? The quest though remains in the balance, and WIS is watching extra closely over these next two weekends, when the parade of cupcakes begins in earnest.
Predictions:
Friday: UNH 3 @ UMass 1
Saturday: UNH 4 Merrimack 3 (OT)
NEXT CUPCAKES ON THE SHELF: 11/4/16 @ home vs. Sacred Heart; 11/5/16 @ home vs. Mercyhurst
IS BS35+4 PAYING ATTENTION YET?
Doubtful. UNH Football bounced back with a key win against Towson State this weekend, moving the Football 'Cats to a 5-3-0 record, where 2 wins in their last 3 games probably gets UNH back in the D-2 tourney (this is a recording). I'm sure the voluminous paperwork for hosting D-2 playoff games is all but completed and ready for submission at the opportune moment. Otherwise, this is a time of year for family, and with the NHIAA beginning its Fall postseason tourney slate this coming week, two D-2 programs near and dear to his heart look to be in the thick of things at least for another week, if not two. This past weekend was probably a nice opportunity to catch up with old friends from Colorado College, no doubt, and reminisce about the good ol' days when BS35+4 was known to his CC pals as a much more modest BS20+2. It's possible they never even bothered to catch the game at The Whitt, and even if they did, our boy probably thinks CC is still a national D-1 power like they were during his time out there during the Coach Lucia and Coach Owens eras.
* - minimum games remaining assumes 34 regular season games, and at least 2 games in the MBPBEGAM "playoffs"
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Re: UNH Wildcats 2016-17 -- We're Going to Have a Hockey Season Here!!
With apologies to C Dickens, WIS prediction for next weekend sounds like Great Expectations. But, who cares about OOC cupcakes, DU has his eye on the ball, err, HEA teams; 4 points next weekend would put us in at least a tie for first place.
With apologies to C Dickens, WIS prediction for next weekend sounds like Great Expectations. But, who cares about OOC cupcakes, DU has his eye on the ball, err, HEA teams; 4 points next weekend would put us in at least a tie for first place.
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Re: UNH Wildcats 2016-17 -- We're Going to Have a Hockey Season Here!!
"Colorado College Beats UNH for First Time Since '97"
by Ben Nawn
"Colorado College Beats UNH for First Time Since '97"
by Ben Nawn
Re: UNH Wildcats 2016-17 -- We're Going to Have a Hockey Season Here!!
Agree with Snively - Wishful thinking, re: next weekend's "cupcakes". UMass at least beat CC, and we all painfully remember last season's wretched ending at Merrimack.
UMass 3 - UNH 3
MC 5 - UNH 4 (OT)
We'll "probably" redeem ourselves with Sacred Heart and Mercyhurst.
Agree with Snively - Wishful thinking, re: next weekend's "cupcakes". UMass at least beat CC, and we all painfully remember last season's wretched ending at Merrimack.
UMass 3 - UNH 3
MC 5 - UNH 4 (OT)
We'll "probably" redeem ourselves with Sacred Heart and Mercyhurst.
Nick Papagiorgio
Holding court
Re: UNH Wildcats 2016-17 -- We're Going to Have a Hockey Season Here!!
Anyone find it weird that on the same night the Cubs clinched a World Series date with the Indians, CC and UNH were matched up on the ice?
If anything, maybe it is a reason to be hopeful?
Anyone find it weird that on the same night the Cubs clinched a World Series date with the Indians, CC and UNH were matched up on the ice?
If anything, maybe it is a reason to be hopeful?
Re: UNH Wildcats 2016-17 -- We're Going to Have a Hockey Season Here!!
I think its only fair to also track Dick's "Umile's Last Stand - The Quest for 400" career losses!
He has approx. 340 in his career. With 68 games left by Chuck's calculations, that means he goes 8-60 the rest of the way.
Hmmm....that's doable!
I think its only fair to also track Dick's "Umile's Last Stand - The Quest for 400" career losses!
He has approx. 340 in his career. With 68 games left by Chuck's calculations, that means he goes 8-60 the rest of the way.
Hmmm....that's doable!
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