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UNH Wildcats 2014 Post-Season Thread: "Maybe Dick" Hunts the Great White Whale

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Will be interesting to see if either Brett Pesce decides to leave to play for the Carolina organization or Grayson Downing signs with a pro team. Obviously, losing either one would impact the team's prospects for next season.
 
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Will be interesting to see if either Brett Pesce decides to leave to play for the Carolina organization or Grayson Downing signs with a pro team. Obviously, losing either one would impact the team's prospects for next season.

The UNH D would be in real trouble if Pesce leaves. But I don't think he will. He's not big enough yet IMO for pro hockey. If I were Carolina I would just wait on him at least another year and have him put on some weight while at UNH next season.
 
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The UNH D would be in real trouble if Pesce leaves. But I don't think he will. He's not big enough yet IMO for pro hockey. If I were Carolina I would just wait on him at least another year and have him put on some weight while at UNH next season.

We said that about TvR leaving! (with his injury) but I am agreeing about Pesce...hoping...would beg if I saw him in person :eek: !!! Let's hope!!
 
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Will be interesting to see if either Brett Pesce decides to leave to play for the Carolina organization or Grayson Downing signs with a pro team. Obviously, losing either one would impact the team's prospects for next season.

Decimate our prospects...yeah..that's a word I would use if Brett or Grayson left. Sounds 'bout right.
 
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Kevin Goumas has signed with Philadelphia - will play for their AHL team.

Can you confirm a Nick Sorkin signing I read about on Twitter? Wow! When it rains...it pours! Except of course...for Brett and Grayson... ;)
 
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Can you confirm a Nick Sorkin signing I read about on Twitter? Wow! When it rains...it pours! Except of course...for Brett and Grayson... ;)

Yes, Nick Sorkin signed with Montreal.
 
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Analysis by Chris Peters of unitedstatesofhockey.com:

"Trevor van Riemsdyk (UNH) — D – Signed by the Chicago Blackhawks on March 24 – Coming into the year, I believed Trevor van Riemsdyk, the younger brother of U.S. Olympian and Toronto Maple Leafs forward James van Riemsdyk, would be one of the top free agents. However, when TvR went down with a fractured ankle in January, which effectively ended his junior season. I wondered how much it would impact the market for him and if teams would hold off. Chicago didn’t and could be rewarded for their aggressiveness. Had van Riemsdyk not been injured, I’m guessing there would have been a long line to sign him. He was in the process of compiling a career year at UNH after being named a first-team All-American last season as a sophomore, averaging 0.88 points per game from the blue line with four goals and 19 assists in 26 games. At 6-2, 185, he has a little bit of bulking up to do, but his mobility and keen offensive instincts give him some noticeable upside. What makes van Riemsdyk even more intriguing is his development trajectory. Coming out of the EJHL, he was a little raw and it showed at times his freshman season. As a sophomore, he was one of college hockey’s best defensemen and was again the first half of this season. He’ll need time in the AHL to get his pro legs under him, but there very well could be a solid NHL defenseman in the near future in van Riemsdyk. This is Chicago’s second UFA signing and it loads up an area that doesn’t have a lot of depth in what is generally a solid pipeline. Van Riemsdyk was due back from his injury soon, but UNH’s season ended in the Hockey East tournament. He may have some time to see AHL action this year."
 
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For 2014-15, Umile's 25th anniversary and when he turns 66. It should be a fun team to watch, as the core will be made up of five rookie forwards, and 2 rookie defensemen. They will definitely have learning pains that will limit their success, but they are good enough so that by year's end they should either be dangerous, or at least ready for a strong 2015-16 season. Kelleher needs to make a big jump. McNicholas needs strength, and so will have a year of adjustment, like Kelleher. Foegele is a true freshman, so like McNicholas, he will need time. Eiserman's offense is a question, so let's find out if he is a limited solid contributor on the 2nd line, or if he has first line upside. For a fourth rounder, Salvaggio has good skills and is more talented than the past "fillers" Umile has recruited.

Sr.Downing----So.Kelleher------Sr.Willows
Fr.Foegele-----Fr.Poturalski-----Jr.Correale
Fr.Eiserman----Fr.McNicholas---Sr.Thrush
Fr.Salvaggio---Jr.Smith---------Sr.Camper
Jr.Gaudreault--Jr.MacDonald----Jr.Hill
So.Bourque

On defense, we saw that Pesce can step up (though his Lowell game was bad), and he needs to carry the load. The key will be whether Cleland and Maller can make a middle step -- Cleland has far more upside. I don't expect much from Marks and Chanter their freshmen years, so we may see more of Furgele and Quast early on as Marks/Chanter earn their stripes.

Sr.Agosta------Jr.Pesce
So.Cleland-----So.Maller
Fr.Marks-------Fr.Chanter
Fr.Furgele-----Jr.Quast
Sr.Randall
 
For 2014-15, Umile's 25th anniversary and when he turns 66. It should be a fun team to watch, as the core will be made up of five rookie forwards, and 2 rookie defensemen. They will definitely have learning pains that will limit their success, but they are good enough so that by year's end they should either be dangerous, or at least ready for a strong 2015-16 season. Kelleher needs to make a big jump. McNicholas needs strength, and so will have a year of adjustment, like Kelleher. Foegele is a true freshman, so like McNicholas, he will need time. Eiserman's offense is a question, so let's find out if he is a limited solid contributor on the 2nd line, or if he has first line upside. For a fourth rounder, Salvaggio has good skills and is more talented than the past "fillers" Umile has recruited.

Sr.Downing----So.Kelleher------Sr.Willows
Fr.Foegele-----Fr.Poturalski-----Jr.Correale
Fr.Eiserman----Fr.McNicholas---Sr.Thrush
Fr.Salvaggio---Jr.Smith---------Sr.Camper
Jr.Gaudreault--Jr.MacDonald----Jr.Hill
So.Bourque

On defense, we saw that Pesce can step up (though his Lowell game was bad), and he needs to carry the load. The key will be whether Cleland and Maller can make a middle step -- Cleland has far more upside. I don't expect much from Marks and Chanter their freshmen years, so we may see more of Furgele and Quast early on as Marks/Chanter earn their stripes.

Sr.Agosta------Jr.Pesce
So.Cleland-----So.Maller
Fr.Marks-------Fr.Chanter
Fr.Furgele-----Jr.Quast
Sr.Randall

Would be nice to Agosta return...any news on that? Thanks for the projections for next year. I'm sure other teams will see their guys moving on after the tournament...speculation Gadreau, Gillies, Hellebuyck, Follin...many more I'm sure! (just not Pesce and Downing.. :) )
 
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Would be nice to Agosta return...any news on that? Thanks for the projections for next year. I'm sure other teams will see their guys moving on after the tournament...speculation Gadreau, Gillies, Hellebuyck, Follin...many more I'm sure! (just not Pesce and Downing.. :) )

I have to believe Agosta is gone since he was on the ice for senior night. Like this year, they will be very thin on defense. There's going to be a tremendous burden on Pesce next year, given the inexperience of those surrounding him. One thing I did not see in Watcher's post is the state of the goaltending. Will the new guy (forget his name but he is supposed to be 6'5") push DeSmith for time? I hope so since, after three years of watching him, I don't think the current goalie is much of a difference maker. Up front there will have to be steady improvement among the freshmen and leap from the likes of Kelleher, Gaudreault, and Mac Donald if UNH is to remain in the top four in HE and be in contention for an NCAA berth. Long way away. Enjoy the tournament and Go Sox!
 
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Manchester Union Leader said:
The team loses seven seniors — led by senior captain Eric Knodel and Goumas and including defenseman Justin Agosta, goalie Jeff Wyer and forwards Nick Sorkin, Dalton Speelman and Jeff Silengo.

“We’ll be bringing in a large number of freshmen, somewhere around eight or nine, probably at last eight,” Umile said.

Junior Trevor van Riemsdyk, who ended up being out for the year after breaking his ankle in mid-January, is due back to lead the team, as long as he doesn’t leave to play professionally.

“That’s always a possibility with a player of that caliber,” Umile said. “We’ll see how that all plays out.”

Umile called it an outside chance that Agosta, who didn’t play as a freshman, could come back for a final year of eligibility.

My read is that Agosta was a backup plan if TVR and Knodel left. That's where we are now.

As for goaltending, my read is that Adam Clark will minimally push DeSmith, but I wouldn't count on him to be a regular. He's more talented than Wyer, but hasn't clearly elevated himself to be a presumptive starter at UNH -- I think Tirone in 2015 will be more likely to carry the load when DeSmith graduates.
I don't expect a leap in Gaudrault or MacDonald (even assuming he can recover from his ankle break), and frankly think the leap will be from Kelleher and the Freshmen, not from Camper/Gaudreault/Hill/Thrush/Correale crew who have little upside.
 
I have to believe Agosta is gone since he was on the ice for senior night. Like this year, they will be very thin on defense. There's going to be a tremendous burden on Pesce next year, given the inexperience of those surrounding him. One thing I did not see in Watcher's post is the state of the goaltending. Will the new guy (forget his name but he is supposed to be 6'5") push DeSmith for time? I hope so since, after three years of watching him, I don't think the current goalie is much of a difference maker. Up front there will have to be steady improvement among the freshmen and leap from the likes of Kelleher, Gaudreault, and Mac Donald if UNH is to remain in the top four in HE and be in contention for an NCAA berth. Long way away. Enjoy the tournament and Go Sox!

Adam Clark, a 6'5", 215 lbs. goalie, just completed his season with the Salmon Arm SilverBacks (BCHL). He was there #1 goalie this season but missed several games at the end of the season due to injury. Early last season, he was identified by NHL Central Scouting Service as a top prospect among North American goalies. He was not drafted in the 2013 NHL Draft.

Danny Tirone, who is projected to come to UNH in the Fall of 2015, is having an outstanding rookie season in the USHL with the Cedar Rapids RoughRiders - 24 wins, 12 loses.
 
It's my understanding that Justin Agosta is advised by the same agency who has represented James and Trevor van Riemsdyk, and Nick Sorkin. That agency has been successful in negotiating pro contracts for those former UNH players.
 
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My read is that Agosta was a backup plan if TVR and Knodel left. That's where we are now.

As for goaltending, my read is that Adam Clark will minimally push DeSmith, but I wouldn't count on him to be a regular. He's more talented than Wyer, but hasn't clearly elevated himself to be a presumptive starter at UNH -- I think Tirone in 2015 will be more likely to carry the load when DeSmith graduates.
I don't expect a leap in Gaudrault or MacDonald (even assuming he can recover from his ankle break), and frankly think the leap will be from Kelleher and the Freshmen, not from Camper/Gaudreault/Hill/Thrush/Correale crew who have little upside.
Gaudrault played very well in the Garden. MacDonald's fracture was extremely severe.
 
Don Cherry is, shall we say, ambivalent about Toronto signing Eric Knodel (from twitter):

"Leafs love those College guys. Signed Eric Knodel from University of New Hampshire. Going to get a tryout with the Marlies. That means he takes a spot from some guy slugging it out on the buses. If you want to make the Leafs or get a tryout just go to a US College."
 
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Adam Clark, a 6'5", 215 lbs. goalie, just completed his season with the Salmon Arm SilverBacks (BCHL). He was there #1 goalie this season but missed several games at the end of the season due to injury. Early last season, he was identified by NHL Central Scouting Service as a top prospect among North American goalies. He was not drafted in the 2013 NHL Draft.

Danny Tirone, who is projected to come to UNH in the Fall of 2015, is having an outstanding rookie season in the USHL with the Cedar Rapids RoughRiders - 24 wins, 12 loses.

So which is it? Watcher says Clark will "minimally push" DeSmith, while CHC points to his stature in the BCHL. Given what I know about the BCHL, that offensive numbers are inflated, I am wondering if Clark got much support from his d-men but still produced decent numbers. On the negative side, he was on the Central Scouting list a year ago but then was not drafted this year. Does that mean his stock dropped and, if so, why. I am going to tell you that unless DeSmith makes a marked improvement over his performance this season, next season could be a long one for the Wildcats.
 
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Sr.Downing----So.Kelleher------Sr.Willows
Fr.Foegele-----Fr.Poturalski-----Jr.Correale
Fr.Eiserman----Fr.McNicholas---Sr.Thrush
Fr.Salvaggio---Jr.Smith---------Sr.Camper
Jr.Gaudreault--Jr.MacDonald----Jr.Hill
So.Bourque

Sr.Agosta------Jr.Pesce
So.Cleland-----So.Maller
Fr.Marks-------Fr.Chanter
Fr.Furgele-----Jr.Quast
Sr.Randall

Watcher - are these lines you'd like to see? Or lines you expect Umile to roll out? I agree with a lot of the things you stated in your text, but I'm not sure I see all those statements reflected in your line-chart? Just curious...

I'd run out the following:

McNicholas - Downing - Willows

I guess I expect McNicholas to have more of an immediate impact than you do. If I recall correctly he was, at least somewhat, considered for last year's freshman class. While he'll need to add strength, I think he has elite play-making ability. I like him on a line with a well-rounded Downing and a blossoming Willows, who really has a real nose for the net. I didn't expect this from Willows, but I'm really happy to see it. I think this line scores a lot of goals and would be great as a PP1.

Eiserman - Poturalski - Kelleher

I like Kelleher to add some strength and make a big jump as a sophomore. I think he would have had a much better FR year statistically if he had remained in the top-six all season. There was a long stretch where he played on the 4th line. I think part of that reasoning was strength and defense against top opposing lines. For those reasons, I'm not sure he's ready to slot into the middle. I also think playing the wing will allow him to flourish offensively. I like Poturalski's two-way ability and he's another FR who deferred a year and should more ready to contribute. Eiserman/Foegele is a toss-up for me, but Eiserman has played and succeeded at a much higher level of competition.

Foegele - Smith - Correale


Foegele is making the same jump as Providence's Jankowski. Jankowski was a 1st-round pick, but only managed 7-11--18 making the move from Canadian Prep School to Hockey East. I think Foegele is a candidate to chip in some offense next year, but make a big jump as a sophomore. I think this line gives UNH some flexibility with the potential to add offense, but be defensively reliable. I like Smith's play-making pedigree. I agree with you on Correale - great speed and toughness, but I'm not sure about his offensive game developing too much. Here he can chip in some goals and be a tough player to play against especially on the forecheck. That said, is it your opinion that Correale should be on the second line? Or is that a projection? I'm not sure he has the scoring talent. I could, however, EASILY see Umile giving the upperclass Correale the first shot at the larger role you mentioned above.

Thrush - Camper - Gaudreault

I hope you're right about Salvaggio - but I think its close next season and expect Umile to give Camper/Gaudreault every opportunity to play. Gaudreault is really solid and steady, despite lacking any real offensive upside, and I think slots here on a nice fourth-line. If Salvaggio beats one or two of the upperclassmen out thats a big improvement to the roster. Thrush is a guy I've long hoped would turn into more of a scorer, but it just hasn't happened. Still, if there is one guy who might surprise it could be him. Even Austin Block had a big senior season!


Agosta-Pesce

Defensive pairings are a toss-up outside of Agosta-Pesce. I agree, I think Agosta was insurance for any TVR decision. Knodel was always going to go in my opinion. He's big, strong and has pro-prospects. There was no way he would stay, at his age, if he wanted to take a shot at professional hockey. Now that TVR is gone, I'd expect Agosta (who's pro-prospects will be limited) back. I've never been a huge fan, but I really hope he returns and adds some experience to the blueline. Umile likes to play his top defensemen together - though it might benefit the team to split the pair and form more of a top-four.

Cleland-Marks

I like the potential in Marks and could see him pairing up with Cleland on a pretty versatile unit. I would have concerns about whether or not this pairing would defend well enough though.

Maller-Chanter

I think the Dylan's pairing would give you a nice defensive group. Two big strong defenders who are stay-at-home types and can eat up space with size and reach. I'd expect that with some growth this could be a tough group to play against.

I'm not a huge fan of Quast - he's a similar defender who I don't think does anything quite as well as either Dylan. He does have experience on his side though, and Umile has a history of avoiding D-Men only to trot them out on a regular shift once they've grown up a bit. Is Furgele an effective defensive player? I like the offense this defense could produce with Agosta/Pesce/Marks - I'm not sure I'd sacrifice defense for any more offense. If Agosta does leave, I'd expect him to play a lot and, again, I could see these pairings set in any number of ways since there are so many question marks.


Finally, I'd expect Clark to challenge DeSmith a lot more than Wyer ever did. He has great size and is a pretty good athlete. I do think DeSmith starts at least 2/3 to 3/4 of the games - At the very least he's a solid-plus HE goalie who almost always gives UNH a chance to win. I think there is a chance that Clark sees a fair amount of time, however...


I like this team. I think the FR need to be thrown right into the fire so they are ready to lead in 2015-16. If Umile leans to heavily on upperclassmen this season, it will be a VERY young and inexperienced team the following year when Agosta/Pesce/Downing/Willows/DeSmith are all gone.

Where am I right? Where am I wrong??
 
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Don Cherry is, shall we say, ambivalent about Toronto signing Eric Knodel (from twitter):

"Leafs love those College guys. Signed Eric Knodel from University of New Hampshire. Going to get a tryout with the Marlies. That means he takes a spot from some guy slugging it out on the buses."

There's a reason those guys are 'slugging it out on the buses'. Cherry is a clown. If he thought the Leafs had a chance to pick up a 6-6 defenseman, who can skate and has a good offensive game, out of the CHL/WHL he'd be all over that move...
 
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There's a reason those guys are 'slugging it out on the buses'. Cherry is a clown. If he thought the Leafs had a chance to pick up a 6-6 defenseman, who can skate and has a good offensive game, out of the CHL/WHL he'd be all over that move...

There used to be a vast majority of the NHL that thought like Cherry. Now that 30% of the NHL has college ties and many of the high skill guys are included in those numbers, most of the NHL thinks people like Cherry are dinosaurs on this type of comment.
 
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