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UNH Wildcats 2014/2015 - Wait 'Til Next Year!!!
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HockeyRef
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Re: UNH Wildcats 2014/2015 - Wait 'Til Next Year!!!
Ho Hum ...Well Happy Thanksgiving to all ...back to the drawing board for BC...8:00 start at the 'Whitt believe NESN has this one..Best to ya!
Question tho: who was the third goalie behind the bench tonight? Was it the Club Gk? EDIT Matt Labbe walk on GK, Senior. Maybe C-H-C can give more detail. Pesce: out through Dec (maybe ready for UNO series) with a sprained knee...oops didn't see story below .
Ho Hum ...Well Happy Thanksgiving to all ...back to the drawing board for BC...8:00 start at the 'Whitt believe NESN has this one..Best to ya!
Question tho: who was the third goalie behind the bench tonight? Was it the Club Gk? EDIT Matt Labbe walk on GK, Senior. Maybe C-H-C can give more detail. Pesce: out through Dec (maybe ready for UNO series) with a sprained knee...oops didn't see story below .
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Chuck Murray
WIS & Effingwoods Hockey Almanac
Re: UNH Wildcats 2014/2015 - Wait 'Til Next Year!!!
Games like tonight are the ones you expect a young team to lose, more often than not.
However, as the season goes on, it's games like these that a young team has to learn how to win.
Games like tonight are the ones you expect a young team to lose, more often than not.
However, as the season goes on, it's games like these that a young team has to learn how to win.
HockeyRef
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And that's going to be the biggest challenge breaking through...and the schedule doesn't get any easier for that to happen...flashes of it then, nada. Yep sign of a young team but we'll see. Good for Foegele getting his first and Ryan Randall ripped a couple from the point which showed promise. Onward 'Cats!
Re: UNH Wildcats 2014/2015 - Wait 'Til Next Year!!!
Tried to get to the Whitt on Tuesday night, but traffic north from Logan where I picked up my brother was horrendous. So, we bailed out. Sounds like we missed a close game. Good to see freshmen involved in our only goal, but at 1 for 7, our PP stat barely improved. Chuck won the SOG again, of course.
Tried to get to the Whitt on Tuesday night, but traffic north from Logan where I picked up my brother was horrendous. So, we bailed out. Sounds like we missed a close game. Good to see freshmen involved in our only goal, but at 1 for 7, our PP stat barely improved. Chuck won the SOG again, of course.
Re: UNH Wildcats 2014/2015 - Wait 'Til Next Year!!!
UNH came very close to tying RPI in the waning minutes:
http://youtu.be/nj_hUteeLEw
http://youtu.be/Wdoz-1_Zvlc
UNH came very close to tying RPI in the waning minutes:
http://youtu.be/nj_hUteeLEw
http://youtu.be/Wdoz-1_Zvlc
e.cat
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Ya but UNH lost the game and he predicted they would win!!!
HockeyRef
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Re: UNH Wildcats 2014/2015 - Wait 'Til Next Year!!!
Another 'takeaway' to read if you care..or dare to read
Personally I enjoy C-H-C reporting truth be told:
http://blog.collegehockeynews.com/2...ld-lead-rpi-to-2-1-non-conference-win-at-unh/
Frustrated...Frustrating...is this the word that defines our season? I hear in in our own pressers, from the Coach, from the players...Personally I thought we came to play in the first, not so much in the second (see Umile's comments in the Union Leader about that period), fun at the end with the one off the post, the flurry at the end. Find the way..not sure if this is going to be easy or so evident given what we are working with this season. Victories are going to be won on the individual level for now and hopefully will pan out to good stuff down the stretch. Hope everyone has a great Thanksgiving, see ya next week! Heading to BC for the first time looking forward...
Another 'takeaway' to read if you care..or dare to read
Personally I enjoy C-H-C reporting truth be told:http://blog.collegehockeynews.com/2...ld-lead-rpi-to-2-1-non-conference-win-at-unh/
Frustrated...Frustrating...is this the word that defines our season? I hear in in our own pressers, from the Coach, from the players...Personally I thought we came to play in the first, not so much in the second (see Umile's comments in the Union Leader about that period), fun at the end with the one off the post, the flurry at the end. Find the way..not sure if this is going to be easy or so evident given what we are working with this season. Victories are going to be won on the individual level for now and hopefully will pan out to good stuff down the stretch. Hope everyone has a great Thanksgiving, see ya next week! Heading to BC for the first time looking forward...
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HockeyRef
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Re: UNH Wildcats 2014/2015 - Wait 'Til Next Year!!!
Flyin' around the flame again eh e.cat? Love it. Risk taker!
Flyin' around the flame again eh e.cat? Love it. Risk taker!
Re: UNH Wildcats 2014/2015 - Wait 'Til Next Year!!!
"UPDATE: Young UNH Defensemen Face Challenges Without Brett Pesce"
"UPDATE: Young UNH Defensemen Face Challenges Without Brett Pesce"
Chuck Murray
WIS & Effingwoods Hockey Almanac
Re: UNH Wildcats 2014/2015 - Wait 'Til Next Year!!!
So I take it you now agree with me that UNH *winning* the SOG count is/was meaningless, right e.cat?
JMO - the RPI kid who scored the go-ahead goal late in the first period does not deserve a GWG. Discuss.
Travel safe, y'all, and hope everyone (even you, EGOL) has a very happy & healthy Thanksgiving weekend.
So I take it you now agree with me that UNH *winning* the SOG count is/was meaningless, right e.cat?
JMO - the RPI kid who scored the go-ahead goal late in the first period does not deserve a GWG. Discuss.
Travel safe, y'all, and hope everyone (even you, EGOL) has a very happy & healthy Thanksgiving weekend.
HockeyRef
Well-known member
So I take it you now agree with me that UNH *winning* the SOG count is/was meaningless, right e.cat?
JMO - the RPI kid who scored the go-ahead goal late in the first period does not deserve a GWG. Discuss.
Travel safe, y'all, and hope everyone (even you, EGOL) has a very happy & healthy Thanksgiving weekend.
Sooo if say Kelleher or Willows got one by Diebold last night in the final secs...GWG? Yes? No?
e.cat
Seasoned Veteran
Re: UNH Wildcats 2014/2015 - Wait 'Til Next Year!!!
I think the STAT in and of itself is not that relevant and a moot point, but the PROCESS of getting shots to the net and creating opportunities is a relevant conversation. SOGs are a result of that process and goals are too. You can't have goals without SOGs!! The process of getting shots to the net is what it is all about on offense.
In summary, saying the "SOG count is/was meaningless" doesn't tell the whole story. The process is what is meaningful. It just doesn't always produce the desired results!!
JMO.
So I take it you now agree with me that UNH *winning* the SOG count is/was meaningless, right e.cat?
JMO - the RPI kid who scored the go-ahead goal late in the first period does not deserve a GWG. Discuss.
Travel safe, y'all, and hope everyone (even you, EGOL) has a very happy & healthy Thanksgiving weekend.
I think the STAT in and of itself is not that relevant and a moot point, but the PROCESS of getting shots to the net and creating opportunities is a relevant conversation. SOGs are a result of that process and goals are too. You can't have goals without SOGs!! The process of getting shots to the net is what it is all about on offense.
In summary, saying the "SOG count is/was meaningless" doesn't tell the whole story. The process is what is meaningful. It just doesn't always produce the desired results!!
JMO.
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Chuck Murray
WIS & Effingwoods Hockey Almanac
Re: UNH Wildcats 2014/2015 - Wait 'Til Next Year!!!
First period, no. Third period, heck yes.
First period, no. Third period, heck yes.
Chuck Murray
WIS & Effingwoods Hockey Almanac
Re: UNH Wildcats 2014/2015 - Wait 'Til Next Year!!!
You have become enlightened. My work here is done.
Dammit, you had to go qualify things. Couldn't leave well enough alone, could ya??
Seriously though ... I can't disagree too much with that, e.cat. My only edit to what you've said above is I'd probably add the word quality in front of every time you wrote the word "shots" and "opportunities".
I'll also point out that a team with better quality finishers won't need as many SOG's to generate more goals than an opponent lacking quality finishers, whether that's on any given night, or (more likely) over a longer period of time (I think that's what the stats geeks call "sample size"). Right now, I think that's part of what's hurting UNH. Lots of quantity, but not enough quality. Yet.
The best way I've always tried to explain it is this ... a successful team is one that gets a lead, preserves a lead with smart strategic and disciplined play, works to its strengths, and forces opponents away from their own strengths. If you're a good team and you have a one-goal lead in the second or (especially) the third period against a lesser opponent, you know the opponent is eventually going to try to break out of their own comfort zone and start committing more players to the attack. That opens their defense up, and while you're preserving your one goal lead by forcing the opponent out towards the edges, they're trying to get the puck to the front in search of a stick or lucky bounce, and probably piling up some numbers. But all it takes is a goof or two by the trailing team, and all of a sudden, the good team with the one-goal lead has a breakaway or an odd-man rush or two, which are usually better quality chances than just throwing pucks in volume at the net from wide angles or long distances. And then the good team has a two goal lead, 99% lights out.
I'll challenge our posters to try something the next time you turn on a game, and you don't know the score (and don't peek). Turn off the sound too. Watch how the two teams play in the 3rd period. I bet most of you will be able to figure out which team is winning, and which team is losing. The losing team is almost always the one playing with the most urgency; the winning team is usually the one who is playing it more disciplined and safe, true to whatever system they use. If you can't tell, it's either a tie game or a blowout.
Just a fun suggestion for fellow hockey fans after you all chow down on the usual turkey and trimmings this weekend.
You have become enlightened. My work here is done.
Dammit, you had to go qualify things. Couldn't leave well enough alone, could ya??
Seriously though ... I can't disagree too much with that, e.cat. My only edit to what you've said above is I'd probably add the word quality in front of every time you wrote the word "shots" and "opportunities".
I'll also point out that a team with better quality finishers won't need as many SOG's to generate more goals than an opponent lacking quality finishers, whether that's on any given night, or (more likely) over a longer period of time (I think that's what the stats geeks call "sample size"). Right now, I think that's part of what's hurting UNH. Lots of quantity, but not enough quality. Yet.
The best way I've always tried to explain it is this ... a successful team is one that gets a lead, preserves a lead with smart strategic and disciplined play, works to its strengths, and forces opponents away from their own strengths. If you're a good team and you have a one-goal lead in the second or (especially) the third period against a lesser opponent, you know the opponent is eventually going to try to break out of their own comfort zone and start committing more players to the attack. That opens their defense up, and while you're preserving your one goal lead by forcing the opponent out towards the edges, they're trying to get the puck to the front in search of a stick or lucky bounce, and probably piling up some numbers. But all it takes is a goof or two by the trailing team, and all of a sudden, the good team with the one-goal lead has a breakaway or an odd-man rush or two, which are usually better quality chances than just throwing pucks in volume at the net from wide angles or long distances. And then the good team has a two goal lead, 99% lights out.
I'll challenge our posters to try something the next time you turn on a game, and you don't know the score (and don't peek). Turn off the sound too. Watch how the two teams play in the 3rd period. I bet most of you will be able to figure out which team is winning, and which team is losing. The losing team is almost always the one playing with the most urgency; the winning team is usually the one who is playing it more disciplined and safe, true to whatever system they use. If you can't tell, it's either a tie game or a blowout.
Just a fun suggestion for fellow hockey fans after you all chow down on the usual turkey and trimmings this weekend.
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I think that UNH has an anomalously bizarre relationship with SOG and wins vs losses. I think that Chuck's point about lack of finishers the past few years is part of that. But, I think that our anemic PP can be blamed as well.
I think that UNH has an anomalously bizarre relationship with SOG and wins vs losses. I think that Chuck's point about lack of finishers the past few years is part of that. But, I think that our anemic PP can be blamed as well.
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e.cat
Seasoned Veteran
Re: UNH Wildcats 2014/2015 - Wait 'Til Next Year!!!
No question and it goes without saying!
Have a good turkey day Chuck and to all my fellow UNH posters too☺
You have become enlightened. My work here is done.
Dammit, you had to go qualify things. Couldn't leave well enough alone, could ya??
Seriously though ... I can't disagree too much with that, e.cat. My only edit to what you've said above is I'd probably add the word quality in front of every time you wrote the word "shots" and "opportunities".
No question and it goes without saying!
Have a good turkey day Chuck and to all my fellow UNH posters too☺
e.cat
Seasoned Veteran
Re: UNH Wildcats 2014/2015 - Wait 'Til Next Year!!!
Goalies are all very good these days too but that works both ways for and against! UNH is snake bitten right now for sure!
Goalies are all very good these days too but that works both ways for and against! UNH is snake bitten right now for sure!
Re: UNH Wildcats 2014/2015 - Wait 'Til Next Year!!!
Coach Herrion is under a LOT of pressure to turn that program around this year, or likely he will be given his walking papers. From what I've read, this year's team may just be the one team that starts to make some real noise in the AE conference. We shall see.
Coach Herrion is under a LOT of pressure to turn that program around this year, or likely he will be given his walking papers. From what I've read, this year's team may just be the one team that starts to make some real noise in the AE conference. We shall see.
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