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UNH Wildcats 2013-14 Season Thread (Part 2)
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Nice when it goes UNH's way once in a blue moonRe: UNH Wildcats 2013-14 Season Thread (Part 2)
With each and every game Vecchione continues to prove the point that it would benefit him to stay an additional year in Juniors. Instead of sitting out some games and playing forth line last season as a freshman last year, he got the opportunity to skate big minutes every night and enter NCAA as a more complete player. Instead he now forces his parents all of that additional windshield time to see him play both on the road and away. Could have been playing the majority of his games in his own back yeard. All because his ego was bruised. "I don't need the additional time" " I was lied to!". He prolly should send a note of thanks to the UNH coaches for making him invest the additional time in the USHL. He went from a good high school player with no future beyond NCAA to maybe getting a chance to play for a paycheck some day. Let's face it. Unless you are a flat out stud- which he isn't- you get a multi year commitment. Even BVR seems to have a '15 or '16 commitment and he is family almost.
Hockey East is a 20 year old league. Period. BC can get away with the young recruits because they attract first rounders. BU can't do that anymore. Their recruiting and reputation can't carry that these days. Every other good team out there is loaded with 20 yr old freshmen- UML/ PC/ Qpac/ Union/ etc. etc. etc.
The more you point out that vecchione is doing well, the more you reinforce that the decision to delay would have been a good one for him.
With each and every game Vecchione continues to prove the point that it would benefit him to stay an additional year in Juniors. Instead of sitting out some games and playing forth line last season as a freshman last year, he got the opportunity to skate big minutes every night and enter NCAA as a more complete player. Instead he now forces his parents all of that additional windshield time to see him play both on the road and away. Could have been playing the majority of his games in his own back yeard. All because his ego was bruised. "I don't need the additional time" " I was lied to!". He prolly should send a note of thanks to the UNH coaches for making him invest the additional time in the USHL. He went from a good high school player with no future beyond NCAA to maybe getting a chance to play for a paycheck some day. Let's face it. Unless you are a flat out stud- which he isn't- you get a multi year commitment. Even BVR seems to have a '15 or '16 commitment and he is family almost.
Hockey East is a 20 year old league. Period. BC can get away with the young recruits because they attract first rounders. BU can't do that anymore. Their recruiting and reputation can't carry that these days. Every other good team out there is loaded with 20 yr old freshmen- UML/ PC/ Qpac/ Union/ etc. etc. etc.
The more you point out that vecchione is doing well, the more you reinforce that the decision to delay would have been a good one for him.
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Re: UNH Wildcats 2013-14 Season Thread (Part 2)
I agree. If there's anything that's we've seen, its that players develop better in the USHL than at UNH! He probably should be in the USHL this year, too. Just imagine how good he'd be as a 21 year old freshman next year! Same thing with Laleggia, who UNH deferred, and he was College Hockey's freshman of the year in 2012. He too should send UNH a thank you for allowing him to develop away from UNH. All those ingrates thinking they could play college hockey, when clearly they demonstrated a lack of ability. At least UNH is having the last laugh.
I only wish UNH was emboldened by how right they were with MV, and told Foegele that he needed 2 more years of junior, rather than taking him as a 18 year old next year. When the model is working, why change now?
I agree. If there's anything that's we've seen, its that players develop better in the USHL than at UNH! He probably should be in the USHL this year, too. Just imagine how good he'd be as a 21 year old freshman next year! Same thing with Laleggia, who UNH deferred, and he was College Hockey's freshman of the year in 2012. He too should send UNH a thank you for allowing him to develop away from UNH. All those ingrates thinking they could play college hockey, when clearly they demonstrated a lack of ability. At least UNH is having the last laugh.
I only wish UNH was emboldened by how right they were with MV, and told Foegele that he needed 2 more years of junior, rather than taking him as a 18 year old next year. When the model is working, why change now?
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Chuck Murray
WIS & Effingwoods Hockey Almanac
Re: UNH Wildcats 2013-14 Season Thread (Part 2)
Excellent points, Felger. I'll like UNH's chances a whole lot better IF they can snag 2 points tomorrow night @ BU. Without those, the task then realistically becomes avoiding the play-in game.
Excellent points, Felger. I'll like UNH's chances a whole lot better IF they can snag 2 points tomorrow night @ BU. Without those, the task then realistically becomes avoiding the play-in game.
Chuck Murray
WIS & Effingwoods Hockey Almanac
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Re: UNH Wildcats 2013-14 Season Thread (Part 2)
Does anyone know if NESN is still airing the game tomorrow? As of right now, I see a replay of the Syracuse vs. Boston College women's basketball game during part of that projected time slot (4:00-6:30pm ET) on NESN.
Does anyone know if NESN is still airing the game tomorrow? As of right now, I see a replay of the Syracuse vs. Boston College women's basketball game during part of that projected time slot (4:00-6:30pm ET) on NESN.
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Re: UNH Wildcats 2013-14 Season Thread (Part 2)
From what I read on U of H website it just looks like Terrier vid is covering it? On a side note looks like the UNH website has changed it's look...still not thrilled with that logo but guess that's a moot point. My daughter is praying it's not going to be on her diploma this Spring!
Terrier Vid link:
http://www.goterriers.com/allaccess/?media=435948
From what I read on U of H website it just looks like Terrier vid is covering it? On a side note looks like the UNH website has changed it's look...still not thrilled with that logo but guess that's a moot point. My daughter is praying it's not going to be on her diploma this Spring!
Terrier Vid link:
http://www.goterriers.com/allaccess/?media=435948
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Re: UNH Wildcats 2013-14 Season Thread (Part 2)
What's it matter what logo is on it? According to Hockeydud the place is nothing but a cow pature. Besides- his son Mike is now a freshman that is doing well @ Union! How is that ride all the way up to Canton and Malone anyway?
What's it matter what logo is on it? According to Hockeydud the place is nothing but a cow pature. Besides- his son Mike is now a freshman that is doing well @ Union! How is that ride all the way up to Canton and Malone anyway?
Re: UNH Wildcats 2013-14 Season Thread (Part 2)
Mike Vecchione is an affable, well-spoken young man who deserves congratulations for an outstanding freshman season. In fairness to all concerned, if he had been projected as a 3rd-6th round NHL pick as a senior in high school, like Warren Foegele is, I would hope the UNH coaches would have had the wisdom to accelerate his enrollment.
Mike Vecchione is an affable, well-spoken young man who deserves congratulations for an outstanding freshman season. In fairness to all concerned, if he had been projected as a 3rd-6th round NHL pick as a senior in high school, like Warren Foegele is, I would hope the UNH coaches would have had the wisdom to accelerate his enrollment.
that sucks because MV is a far superior player. any team that accelerates a player off of central scouting, one of the most meaningless lists ever, will have a tough time winning championships. wait, maybe we are onto something here
if i lived in durham i would ride a donkey pulled cart to union to get a degree there vs unh
Must your life be so pathetic? C-H-C offers a well written response and you come back with childish garbage. Seriously, either grow up a bit or please spend your time "critiquing" other college hockey programs.
Chuck Murray
WIS & Effingwoods Hockey Almanac
Re: UNH Wildcats 2013-14 Season Thread (Part 2)
Not that I live in Durham or anything (although I'm not too far away) ... but we've long ago moved on to motorized transportation, so you can keep your donkeys and carts in Schenectady.
Talk about a place that's seen better days. I've been to Schenectady NY, and with all due respect to the wonderful Schenectadians who probably frequent this board, I thought I'd somehow ended up in Lynn MA ... but then I realized once getting past the largely-idle GE plants in both cities, Lynn at least has the Atlantic Ocean. Schenectady has the Mohawk River and the remains of the Erie Canal. And oh yeah, every once in awhile they have issues with radioactive waste finding its way into their waterways. Big woop, right - no biggie?
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/10/nyregion/10nuke.html?_r=0
I'm not sure how this happens, but the Wiki page link that shows when you Google "Schenectady NY" has a photo in the right column, which shows a residential neighborhood that's literally under several feet of water. I'm sure the local realltors had a hard enough job on their hands trying to move properties, without having to deal with that added burden ...
https://www.google.com/#q=schenectady+ny&safe=active
If I lived in Durham, and someone told me I had to move to Schenectady, I'd run - quickly and quietly. Probably to a place with better prospects. Like Detroit. Or Beirut. JMHO.
Not that I live in Durham or anything (although I'm not too far away) ... but we've long ago moved on to motorized transportation, so you can keep your donkeys and carts in Schenectady.
Talk about a place that's seen better days. I've been to Schenectady NY, and with all due respect to the wonderful Schenectadians who probably frequent this board, I thought I'd somehow ended up in Lynn MA ... but then I realized once getting past the largely-idle GE plants in both cities, Lynn at least has the Atlantic Ocean. Schenectady has the Mohawk River and the remains of the Erie Canal. And oh yeah, every once in awhile they have issues with radioactive waste finding its way into their waterways. Big woop, right - no biggie?
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/10/nyregion/10nuke.html?_r=0
I'm not sure how this happens, but the Wiki page link that shows when you Google "Schenectady NY" has a photo in the right column, which shows a residential neighborhood that's literally under several feet of water. I'm sure the local realltors had a hard enough job on their hands trying to move properties, without having to deal with that added burden ...
https://www.google.com/#q=schenectady+ny&safe=active
If I lived in Durham, and someone told me I had to move to Schenectady, I'd run - quickly and quietly. Probably to a place with better prospects. Like Detroit. Or Beirut. JMHO.
Re: UNH Wildcats 2013-14 Season Thread (Part 2)
thats what happens when you get a degree from an agricultural school.
You could say the same for the towns surounding Columbia and Yale. I would pass on those as well for UNH. an avg hockey program and a below avg university.
Tufts must suck as
CHC is a good poster but I dont believe central scouting rankings has anything to do with colleve success. MV was,is and always will be a better player than the Foegele.
He wont get drafted
thats what happens when you get a degree from an agricultural school.
You could say the same for the towns surounding Columbia and Yale. I would pass on those as well for UNH. an avg hockey program and a below avg university.
Tufts must suck as
CHC is a good poster but I dont believe central scouting rankings has anything to do with colleve success. MV was,is and always will be a better player than the Foegele.
He wont get drafted
Re: UNH Wildcats 2013-14 Season Thread (Part 2)
I wasn't going to respond to this dink since that's exactly what he wants but I'm feeling generous so I'll give him what he wants:
You obviously have a close affiliation to Vecchione, I get that, but are you like his 14 year old brother or something? Seriously. Still, I know 14 year olds that are more mature than you are. Kids commit and decommit frequently to change schools. GET OVER IT. Do you think people associated with Johnny Gaudreau go and post on the Northeastern thread the stats JG had after a good game. No. Because they have class and they 'act like they've been there before'. They don't need their opinion reinforced from a team he previously committed too to say they think he's a good player. You obviously have very low self esteem in yourself and/or in MV if you feel the need or desire to post stats about Vecchione on here in order to entice us or make us angry so that is essentially reassuring your opinion that MV is the greatest thing around with angry responses from us. Very classy. I don't mean to burst your bubble or hurt your self esteem but honestly I could care less about Vecchione. What's he have like 18 pts this year? Good but certainly nothing to stop the presses about. I mean if you're really gonna try and rub it in our faces he should be putting up bigger numbers than that. He's a good player and I wish him luck with hockey but I certainly don't lose any sleep over the fact he didn't come to UNH. There's more important things in life. Maybe you should move on too. You think you'd be humble about having your big bro (since you're a 14 yr old I'm assuming. Or at least have the maturity level of one) playing D1 hockey and having a good year. I think you're more bitter with UNH than UNH fans are for going to another school. We know how it is, obviously you don't. Time to move on with life little guy, don't you think?
And I can understand you being all ****y with the UNH hockey team but why you taking jabs at the school. UNH is a good school. It's in the top 100 in the nation for top universities and is one of only a handful of schools in the country that have a land, space, and sea grant. Great programs and in a great part of the country. Very childish for you to take jabs a the school (must not have been that bad either since Vecchione was going to go there if UNH wanted him a year prior??). But they didn't and they hurt his (and apparently your) feelings. Now you need to say to us, "Hey Hey, look how good this guy is. He's the best thing ever.", in order to boost your self-esteem & his public image (since you seem to think it was damaged b/c UNH wanted to wait another yr) with our angry responses. Can't his play on the ice do it enough for you? Classy, classy. Grow up. And I'm not giving you an angry response here either. I'm cool as a cucumber. I just think what you're doing is childish and obv. you have other issues going on, and I just thought I'd let you know in case you didn't already know about your insecurities. But I'm sure you did. I'll give you some credit.
And what has Union done in term of hardware? Any national championships? Only schools that have won a NC can call UNH the 'univ. of no hardware'. Otherwise it's kinda that old saying about the pot and the kettle.....
Sorry Scott. I couldn't resist.
I wasn't going to respond to this dink since that's exactly what he wants but I'm feeling generous so I'll give him what he wants:
You obviously have a close affiliation to Vecchione, I get that, but are you like his 14 year old brother or something? Seriously. Still, I know 14 year olds that are more mature than you are. Kids commit and decommit frequently to change schools. GET OVER IT. Do you think people associated with Johnny Gaudreau go and post on the Northeastern thread the stats JG had after a good game. No. Because they have class and they 'act like they've been there before'. They don't need their opinion reinforced from a team he previously committed too to say they think he's a good player. You obviously have very low self esteem in yourself and/or in MV if you feel the need or desire to post stats about Vecchione on here in order to entice us or make us angry so that is essentially reassuring your opinion that MV is the greatest thing around with angry responses from us. Very classy. I don't mean to burst your bubble or hurt your self esteem but honestly I could care less about Vecchione. What's he have like 18 pts this year? Good but certainly nothing to stop the presses about. I mean if you're really gonna try and rub it in our faces he should be putting up bigger numbers than that. He's a good player and I wish him luck with hockey but I certainly don't lose any sleep over the fact he didn't come to UNH. There's more important things in life. Maybe you should move on too. You think you'd be humble about having your big bro (since you're a 14 yr old I'm assuming. Or at least have the maturity level of one) playing D1 hockey and having a good year. I think you're more bitter with UNH than UNH fans are for going to another school. We know how it is, obviously you don't. Time to move on with life little guy, don't you think?
And I can understand you being all ****y with the UNH hockey team but why you taking jabs at the school. UNH is a good school. It's in the top 100 in the nation for top universities and is one of only a handful of schools in the country that have a land, space, and sea grant. Great programs and in a great part of the country. Very childish for you to take jabs a the school (must not have been that bad either since Vecchione was going to go there if UNH wanted him a year prior??). But they didn't and they hurt his (and apparently your) feelings. Now you need to say to us, "Hey Hey, look how good this guy is. He's the best thing ever.", in order to boost your self-esteem & his public image (since you seem to think it was damaged b/c UNH wanted to wait another yr) with our angry responses. Can't his play on the ice do it enough for you? Classy, classy. Grow up. And I'm not giving you an angry response here either. I'm cool as a cucumber. I just think what you're doing is childish and obv. you have other issues going on, and I just thought I'd let you know in case you didn't already know about your insecurities. But I'm sure you did. I'll give you some credit.
And what has Union done in term of hardware? Any national championships? Only schools that have won a NC can call UNH the 'univ. of no hardware'. Otherwise it's kinda that old saying about the pot and the kettle.....
Sorry Scott. I couldn't resist.
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Re: UNH Wildcats 2013-14 Season Thread (Part 2)
One definition of the word "hoki" is that someone has said something questionable. It also looks like the word "hokey" can mean something that is contrived or artificial. It is amazing how a single letter can influence the relevance of words.
Of course, there is a low cost floor sweeper that is called a "hoky" -- but that certainly could not have any relevancy for this thread .........
One definition of the word "hoki" is that someone has said something questionable. It also looks like the word "hokey" can mean something that is contrived or artificial. It is amazing how a single letter can influence the relevance of words.
Of course, there is a low cost floor sweeper that is called a "hoky" -- but that certainly could not have any relevancy for this thread .........
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Re: UNH Wildcats 2013-14 Season Thread (Part 2)
he critiqued the BC program/team yesterday AM, your time slot was last night
LOL, I've not been to Schenectady but have worked in Lynn for 30+ years so, yeah, i get what you're saying. In Lynn, they are just starting to realize that they actually are on the Atlantic Ocean have oceanfront property and maybe in some millennium soon, they will, you know, maybe develop it??
he critiqued the BC program/team yesterday AM, your time slot was last night
LOL, I've not been to Schenectady but have worked in Lynn for 30+ years so, yeah, i get what you're saying. In Lynn, they are just starting to realize that they actually are on the Atlantic Ocean have oceanfront property and maybe in some millennium soon, they will, you know, maybe develop it??
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