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UNH Wildcats 2012-2013 Season Thread
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Re: UNH Wildcats 2012-2013 Season Thread
So on Knodel and hitting:
See I do pay attention at games, always have. So on Saturday I took a little notebook with me and tracked checks by UNH’s 6 D-men regardless of zone. See if what I felt in general was supported by facts.
What I found...
21 hits by any D-man 1 by Knodel and it was a fairly soft shoulder to shoulder against the boards. So that means the other 5 d-men accounted for 20 checks or 4 per on average. See Knodel doesn’t hit, now 0 checks would be foolish as hockey is a contact sport after all. So if you were expecting 0 hits you were being far too literal.
Now I counted anything that looked like a check open ice or against the boards that was initiated by the d-man. If the Providence player initiated the contact i.e. the UNH D-man was the hitti not the hitter it didn't count. Also 2 players bumping in open ice isn't a check… rubbing is racing after all…
Knodel's stats were 1 check, 2 bumps/rubs (he stole the puck both times) and 1 funny hit initiated by a Providence player that ended up on his butt. I think the Providence guy was #14 Mauermann, I didn't write down but that is what my memory says, so it was 5'9" 170 vs. 6'6" 225. Mauermann didn't even stay low and basically bounced of Knodel but Mauermann clearly (foolishly) initiated the contact.
Now I have never said Knodel’s play was bad. It is a style thing, and nothing wrong with the style either. Knodel stays more in the center of the ice (particularly at the Whitt) in his position which makes up for his lack of speed, it is smart play. Additionally if UNH was chasing in zone Agosta would chase on the boards with the center and Knodel would watch the front of the net. Agosta had a bunch of the 20 checks I didn’t count but would estimate 6ish. Additionally Providence scored a fair number of the 6 goals down low, but not one with Knodel on the ice.
So I stand by my assertion that Knodel doesn’t hit/check (again not 0 that is just dumb). Now I saw him level a guy with a really solid clean check earlier this year, but that guy poked the bear, provoking the situation. I remember it because I thought it was funny and fits my original comments.
So on Knodel and hitting:
See I do pay attention at games, always have. So on Saturday I took a little notebook with me and tracked checks by UNH’s 6 D-men regardless of zone. See if what I felt in general was supported by facts.
What I found...
21 hits by any D-man 1 by Knodel and it was a fairly soft shoulder to shoulder against the boards. So that means the other 5 d-men accounted for 20 checks or 4 per on average. See Knodel doesn’t hit, now 0 checks would be foolish as hockey is a contact sport after all. So if you were expecting 0 hits you were being far too literal.
Now I counted anything that looked like a check open ice or against the boards that was initiated by the d-man. If the Providence player initiated the contact i.e. the UNH D-man was the hitti not the hitter it didn't count. Also 2 players bumping in open ice isn't a check… rubbing is racing after all…
Knodel's stats were 1 check, 2 bumps/rubs (he stole the puck both times) and 1 funny hit initiated by a Providence player that ended up on his butt. I think the Providence guy was #14 Mauermann, I didn't write down but that is what my memory says, so it was 5'9" 170 vs. 6'6" 225. Mauermann didn't even stay low and basically bounced of Knodel but Mauermann clearly (foolishly) initiated the contact.
Now I have never said Knodel’s play was bad. It is a style thing, and nothing wrong with the style either. Knodel stays more in the center of the ice (particularly at the Whitt) in his position which makes up for his lack of speed, it is smart play. Additionally if UNH was chasing in zone Agosta would chase on the boards with the center and Knodel would watch the front of the net. Agosta had a bunch of the 20 checks I didn’t count but would estimate 6ish. Additionally Providence scored a fair number of the 6 goals down low, but not one with Knodel on the ice.
So I stand by my assertion that Knodel doesn’t hit/check (again not 0 that is just dumb). Now I saw him level a guy with a really solid clean check earlier this year, but that guy poked the bear, provoking the situation. I remember it because I thought it was funny and fits my original comments.
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Re: UNH Wildcats 2012-2013 Season Thread
I had two other posters tell me I didn't know what I was talking about and to "watch the tape" reference Knodel not hitting. I don't have "tape" on the games so I took some notes on the next game. Just providing the data that my initial impression of play I had watched (primarily at the Whitt) is correct regarding Knodel.
Nope I think he is a pretty good d-man. Good stick, really hard shot, seems to prefer a heavy wrister over the slapper (which is good), very good positional, tall so long stick, slows the game down when puck is on his stick, smart use of space, skating is slow. But his style is that of a “gentle giant” some of it is due to playing in good position in space and not getting caught out on the wall, particularly at Lake Whitt. Has he had a bad game or two? Yup, what college player doesn’t?
I had two other posters tell me I didn't know what I was talking about and to "watch the tape" reference Knodel not hitting. I don't have "tape" on the games so I took some notes on the next game. Just providing the data that my initial impression of play I had watched (primarily at the Whitt) is correct regarding Knodel.
Re: UNH Wildcats 2012-2013 Season Thread
Why is the UNH record not as good in 2013 as it was in 2012? Not so difficult that a head coach couldn't figure it out. Certainly - associate head coach Tortorella has figured it out as he has made a huge difference in the UNH "mentality.
It would appear that UNH has moved away from blocking shots .... and this probably reflects an increased emphasis on the part of the players on a "me first" mentality. In 2012 it was.... "Ill take one for the team" .... in 2013 it seems to be "how can I look good" ....
UNH does not go deep into the 2013 NCAA playoffs unless the old adage that says something about the name on the front of the jersey .... well you know.
Why is the UNH record not as good in 2013 as it was in 2012? Not so difficult that a head coach couldn't figure it out. Certainly - associate head coach Tortorella has figured it out as he has made a huge difference in the UNH "mentality.
It would appear that UNH has moved away from blocking shots .... and this probably reflects an increased emphasis on the part of the players on a "me first" mentality. In 2012 it was.... "Ill take one for the team" .... in 2013 it seems to be "how can I look good" ....
UNH does not go deep into the 2013 NCAA playoffs unless the old adage that says something about the name on the front of the jersey .... well you know.
Re: UNH Wildcats 2012-2013 Season Thread
Sure, the 'Cats are doing much better than anticipated, or were. 3 and 4 in the last 7 may be closer to expectations for the season, but didn't they show in Oct/Nov that they can be better than that? Isn't part of looking forward, from the team's perspective, to ask "how can we be better?" Goldie's point, which I think is valid, is simply to evaluate what has changed between the Oct/Nov team and the Dec/Jan team.
I will yell loud, and mostly enjoy, but I'll also be frustrated with the self-inflicted wounds like the Providence debacle.
Sure, the 'Cats are doing much better than anticipated, or were. 3 and 4 in the last 7 may be closer to expectations for the season, but didn't they show in Oct/Nov that they can be better than that? Isn't part of looking forward, from the team's perspective, to ask "how can we be better?" Goldie's point, which I think is valid, is simply to evaluate what has changed between the Oct/Nov team and the Dec/Jan team.
I will yell loud, and mostly enjoy, but I'll also be frustrated with the self-inflicted wounds like the Providence debacle.
Re: UNH Wildcats 2012-2013 Season Thread
Don't get me wrong... I was plenty frustrated Saturday night (and Sunday and most of Monday too).
The slob-Providence-loud-mouth-fan sitting a couple rows behind me who was the recepient of my "Your life would be more meaningful and interesting if you were a recurring character on The Family Guy" comment would attest to my frustration.
Don't get me wrong... I was plenty frustrated Saturday night (and Sunday and most of Monday too).
The slob-Providence-loud-mouth-fan sitting a couple rows behind me who was the recepient of my "Your life would be more meaningful and interesting if you were a recurring character on The Family Guy" comment would attest to my frustration.
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Re: UNH Wildcats 2012-2013 Season Thread
Shameless plug, but detailing DeSmith's recent poor play. It is all relative, but with the exception of game against BC, his numbers have been well down since trip to Colorado.
http://www.westerncollegehockeyblog...2/hockey-east-goaltending-unh-bu-umass-hockey
Shameless plug, but detailing DeSmith's recent poor play. It is all relative, but with the exception of game against BC, his numbers have been well down since trip to Colorado.
http://www.westerncollegehockeyblog...2/hockey-east-goaltending-unh-bu-umass-hockey
Re: UNH Wildcats 2012-2013 Season Thread
Guess Coach Umile reads your stuff, looks like Wyer gets the start tonight.
Guess Coach Umile reads your stuff, looks like Wyer gets the start tonight.
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And he gives up a goal 7 seconds into 3rd period. Great to see he was paying attention. UNH is going to struggle to maintain home ice for HE playoffs.
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Not too worried, yet. BC lost to Maine 4-1 at Conte on Friday night. Good for Wyer to get a start in net. I did not see anything but the box score, so cannot comment on Wyer's performance or the Cats overall in the game.
Not too worried, yet. BC lost to Maine 4-1 at Conte on Friday night. Good for Wyer to get a start in net. I did not see anything but the box score, so cannot comment on Wyer's performance or the Cats overall in the game.
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Re: UNH Wildcats 2012-2013 Season Thread
With the exception of the BC game at the Whitt, UNH's play as of late has been a little disappointing. They were doing a little better last night against Merrimack, but hopefully their level of play will improve to the level we know they are capable of producing!
As for the game tonight in Manchester, does anyone know if it is possible to watch the game online anywhere?
With the exception of the BC game at the Whitt, UNH's play as of late has been a little disappointing. They were doing a little better last night against Merrimack, but hopefully their level of play will improve to the level we know they are capable of producing!
As for the game tonight in Manchester, does anyone know if it is possible to watch the game online anywhere?
Re: UNH Wildcats 2012-2013 Season Thread
Hokydad- Did UNH drop MV or did he decommit from UNH... I cant seem to remember exactly but i believe he was asked to do another year in the USHL and he told UNH to go pound sand. Then ended up doing another year anyways? He turns 20 this year in a league with an average age of 18. I hope for the best for MV, just not against UNH
Hokydad- Did UNH drop MV or did he decommit from UNH... I cant seem to remember exactly but i believe he was asked to do another year in the USHL and he told UNH to go pound sand. Then ended up doing another year anyways? He turns 20 this year in a league with an average age of 18. I hope for the best for MV, just not against UNH
Give up a goal in the last minute of the period. CHECK
Give up a goal the first shift after scoring a goal (and taking the lead for 32 seconds). CHECK
Give up a goal the first minute of the period (or 7 seconds) CHECK
I didn't think UNH played badly, but you can't give up goals in any of these situations, especially in a tight game, and they gave up all three.....
UNH controlled the second period until MC tied up the game on that bad angle shot by Collins to Wyer's left (somehow left the post uncoverd). Merrimack controlled the third period after the go ahead goal. UNH had very few chances on the anemic power play, and took to bad penalties the last six minutes which hindered their comeback effort....
It's frustrating, BC has lost three of four and left the door open for UNH to take control of the conference, but UNH has lost.... Three of four in the same time.
Give up a goal the first shift after scoring a goal (and taking the lead for 32 seconds). CHECK
Give up a goal the first minute of the period (or 7 seconds) CHECK
I didn't think UNH played badly, but you can't give up goals in any of these situations, especially in a tight game, and they gave up all three.....
UNH controlled the second period until MC tied up the game on that bad angle shot by Collins to Wyer's left (somehow left the post uncoverd). Merrimack controlled the third period after the go ahead goal. UNH had very few chances on the anemic power play, and took to bad penalties the last six minutes which hindered their comeback effort....
It's frustrating, BC has lost three of four and left the door open for UNH to take control of the conference, but UNH has lost.... Three of four in the same time.
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MV would not be dressed for most games if he were at UNH. He's better off at a school like Union where he will get some playing time.
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