UNH Recruits: 2012-2018

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An article on Brendan van Riemsdyk in The Hockey News.

 

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An article on Brendan van Riemsdyk in The Hockey News.

Great article about a future Wildcat with a very familiar last name Looking forward to welcoming BvR to the 'Cats! Wishing him the best in the upcoming year.

 

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"UNH Recruits Update: March-18-2014"

Player of the week is 2014 recruit Andrew Poturalski.

 

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Poturalski with 3 more points today (2G and 1 assist), Jason Kalinowski 1 goal 1 assist, and Danny Tirone picked up his 23rd win of the year

 

[Snively65]

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Poturalski with 3 more points today (2G and 1 assist), Jason Kalinowski 1 goal 1 assist, and Danny Tirone picked up his 23rd win of the year

Gotta wonder if he might have helped add a couple Ws for UNH this season to improve our pwr?

 

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"UNH Recruits Update: March-25-2014"

Player of the Week is Michael McNicholas.

 

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Joey Cipollone (DOB: 3-29-1997), a 5'10", 180 lbs. forward from the Selects Academy, South Kent School U16 team has committed to UNH. He lead the Selects to the USPHL U16 Championship last month scoring 3 goals and 3 assists in 3 playoff games. During 27 regular season games, Cipollone scored 14 goals, including 3 game-winners, and 25 assists. More info to follow.

 

[wildcatdc]

An article on Brendan van Riemsdyk in The Hockey News.

C-H-C... In aggregate, how would you say the current lineup of recruits compares to previous years? From your posts, it looks like we have some pretty solid talent in the pipeline. What years do you anticipate us seeing this manifest itself in a potential change of outcomes at the Whitt?

 

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C-H-C... In aggregate, how would you say the current lineup of recruits compares to previous years? From your posts, it looks like we have some pretty solid talent in the pipeline. What years do you anticipate us seeing this manifest itself in a potential change of outcomes at the Whitt?

I'm putting something together for the blog which will look at the recruits - their backgrounds and strengths, and their similarities with previous UNH players. Here's a quick take on who a few of the 2014 recruits remind me of:

Shane Eiserman - Daniel Winnik
Warren Foegele - Lanny Gare
Michael McNicholas - Grayson Downing
Andrew Poturalski - Matt Fornataro
Dylan Chanter - Connor Hardowa
Adam Clark - Brian Foster (+3 inches)

 

[SteveS.]

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I've posted a few times about Mason Jobst on here before over the past couple years, I can't believe this kid hasn't been signed yet. Would love to see him at UNH, he is a playmaker that any scorer would want on their line. Great hockey sense and always around the puck, #2 scorer and #2 in +/- (45 points in 47 games and a +6) on Muskegon behind Western Michigan recruit Iacopelli and tops in team assists where he has great value along with blocking shots and the PK. Great kid (he played High School hockey with my son) and a kid that deserves to play DI hockey. Great video here, Jobst is all over it with two goals. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLP7vExhkl4

 

[JB]

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C-H-C... In aggregate, how would you say the current lineup of recruits compares to previous years? From your posts, it looks like we have some pretty solid talent in the pipeline. What years do you anticipate us seeing this manifest itself in a potential change of outcomes at the Whitt?

On paper I think it is safe to say this year might be UNH's best recruiting class since... maybe 2003

Winnik (OHL first round pick)
MicFlikier (USA U-17 team)
Hemingway (BCHL co-ROY)
Travis (1st NE Prep)
Murray (looked like a solid D-man)

This is probably good to remember because not all recruits pan out.

Another example 2001

Callander
Carron
Collins
Aikins
Teplitsky

I am not sure I have seen a class look this promising (all around) since the early 2000's. Example JvR highlighted his class but that class didn't seem as deep. I really like both these classes as a comparison because they came in with high expectations but not all had the desired impact. Recruiting = in exact science, or past performance doesn't necessarily indicate future results, etc.

 

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Shane Eiserman - Daniel Winnik MIKE RADJA/SCOTT MORROW
Warren Foegele - Lanny GareDANIEL WINNIK/PETER LEBLANC
Michael McNicholas - Grayson DowningJUSTIN AIKINS/PHIL DESIMONE
Andrew Poturalski - Matt FornataroMATT FORNATARO
Jason Salvaggio --.............................-JOSH PRUDDEN
Dylan Chanter - Connor HardowaHARDOWA/JOE CHARLEBOIS
Cam Marks --..........................TYSON TEPLISKY/KEVIN KAPSTAD
John Furgele-..........................MATT CAMPANALE
Adam Clark - Brian Foster (+3 inches)SEAN MATILE

On paper I think it is safe to say this year might be UNH's best recruiting class since... maybe 2003

Winnik (OHL first round pick)
MicFlikier (USA U-17 team)
Hemingway (BCHL co-ROY)
Travis (1st NE Prep)
Murray (looked like a solid D-man)

This is probably good to remember because not all recruits pan out.

Another example 2001

Callander
Carron
Collins
Aikins
Teplitsky

I am not sure I have seen a class look this promising (all around) since the early 2000's. Example JvR highlighted his class but that class didn't seem as deep. I really like both these classes as a comparison because they came in with high expectations but not all had the desired impact. Recruiting = in exact science, or past performance doesn't necessarily indicate future results, etc.

correction : Winnik was a fourth rounder, Micflikier is Canadian and played in USHL.

2001, you left out our own Josh Ciocco

2009
Matt White - USHL forward of year
Ryan Bourque- top forward on US National Team
Cam Reid - NHL draft
John Henrion - US National Team
Greg Burke- NHL pick, top 40 US U17 tryout

1999
Colin Hemingway
Lanny Gare
Kevin Truelson
Jim Abbott
Josh Prudden
Patrick Foley
Garrett Stafford

 

[JB]

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correction : Winnik was a fourth rounder, Micflikier is Canadian and played in USHL.

Could have sworn I copied that correctly from the web page I was looking at, but OK I am not going to go digging, I don't care that much.

2001, you left out our own Josh Ciocco

Would he line up with Salvaggio? I only looked for bodies that seemed to match up with the 5 in question. I also admittedly disregarded the goalie...

2009
Matt White - USHL forward of year
Ryan Bourque- top forward on US National Team
Cam Reid - NHL draft
John Henrion - US National Team
Greg Burke- NHL pick, top 40 US U17 tryout

I don't count players that never made it to campus. So while this 2009 class looked AMAZING in March it was blown to hell by September and now looking back I discount the best 3 pieces.

1999
Colin Hemingway
Lanny Gare
Kevin Truelson
Jim Abbott
Josh Prudden
Patrick Foley
Garrett Stafford

I didn't go back this far. I don't get the impression that this incomming group is going to be this good. Do you think it has a chance? One can only hope.

 

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Shane Eiserman - Daniel Winnik MIKE RADJA/SCOTT MORROW
Warren Foegele - Lanny GareDANIEL WINNIK/PETER LEBLANC
Michael McNicholas - Grayson DowningJUSTIN AIKINS/PHIL DESIMONE
Andrew Poturalski - Matt FornataroMATT FORNATARO
Jason Salvaggio --.............................-JOSH PRUDDEN
Dylan Chanter - Connor HardowaHARDOWA/JOE CHARLEBOIS
Cam Marks --..........................TYSON TEPLISKY/KEVIN KAPSTAD
John Furgele-..........................MATT CAMPANALE
Adam Clark - Brian Foster (+3 inches)SEAN MATILE

When I was considering former UNH players who each recruit reminds me of, I was thinking of characteristics like right vs left shot, primary position, body size/shape, speed, offensive and/or defensive skills, and scoring output.

A few thoughts:

Shane Eiserman – He’s a bruising 6’2”, 200 lbs left winger. Radja was smaller and played both wings and center. I don’t think Eiserman will play center, at least not at first. I frankly don’t remember much about Morrow (my kids were infants/toddlers at the time).

Warren Foegele - I think coming in, Foegele is faster than Winnik was (Winnik worked hard on increasing his speed early in his pro career) and has potential to score more goals. At 6’1”, 182 lbs, Foegele may not be done growing. Leblanc was shorter and played center. Foegele may eventually play center but he’s primarily a left winger. I also think he has the potential to score more goals than Leblanc (highest were 14 goals each of last two seasons).

Michael McNicholas – He’s a 5’10”, left shot centerman. Aikins was a right shot and a couple inches taller. There are a lot of similarities with DeSimone but I think McNicholas might end up scoring more goals. DeSimone’s highest at UNH was 10 goals in a season.

Dylan Chanter – I hope he’s a more diligent student than Joe Charlebois was.

 

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I posted this on the other UNH thread when the "conversation" turned to recruits. Probably fits better over here, wouldn't mind thoughts - maybe I am smoking something funny...

I like to look at college hockey recruits a couple ways:

Age – true freshman tend to need a little more time, some may impact end of freshman year but tend to have a higher ceiling. Older players tend to have a quicker hit but don’t grow as much. Much older players caveat emptor (Travis Banga anyone), late bloomers blow this all to hell but I find it a good indicator.

League/roll – if you don’t score in juniors you tend not to in college. However the BCHL has always been a bit more offensive (but I haven’t tracked lately) so you need to take it with a grain of salt.

Size – each level is bigger and faster and small guys tend to take a little longer to adjust (see Kelleher this year, Haydar being an obvious exception).

So my thoughts not seeing a single one of these guys play:

McNicholas – Nearly came in this year and will be arriving as a 20 year old, 5’ 10” 175, team leading scorer 3rd in goals, 5th in league. To me a little old means more immediate impact, not tiny but most UNH players that height are 185ish so he needs some muscle, I always worry about guys with high points totals due to assists does he have a line mate potting a pile of goals. Vernon has a 30, 26, 23 goal scorers so the spread isn’t crazy.

Eiserman – Will be 18 when he arrives 19 early in the season, 6’2” 200, 5th on team in goal scoring only 5 points back, 4th in goals, 9th in shots taken, ties for team leads at +20. Is he a true freshman? At only 18 when arriving on campus maybe, additionally his birthday is outside the typical 30 day kindergarten/1st grade window so he was likely one of the oldest in his grade not youngest, so I am guessing yes. Size will not be a limitation. Nobody on Dubuque is in the top 20 in USHL in points, hasn’t really shown a scoring touch yet either at NDP or USHL. But leading team in +- seems to indicate a responsible player.

Poturalski - Nearly came in this year and will be arriving as a 20 year old, 5’-10” 185, team leader in scoring by a big margin (59 to 33), team lead in goals and assists, 5th in points in USHL, only a +3. Is an older in coming player but took a big leap forward this year in goals, assists and +-. Cedar Rapids did finish with a .616 record, as a team only +13 and he is clearly the offensive leader. Even as an older player in the USHL to be that much of the offensive leader means attention from other teams. At 185 he is already close to the typical UNH playing weight for a player his size.

Foegele – True freshman hasn’t turned 18 yet (an April Fool…), 6’-1” 182, team leader and league leader in scoring a goal scorer. Young and seems a bit light for height. However the stat that jumps out is goals. He is scoring more than a goal a game and 3 times the goals as assists, is the league leader in goals almost 2 to 1 with 1 fewer game. In the playoffs is a goal a game player. Size a nose for the net is why he is rising so quickly. Question the competition.

Salvaggio – Will be 19 coming in turn 20 early in freshman year, 6-1” 194, 9th in scoring on his team, 5th in goals, bottom 3rd in +-. In points has shown scoring growth over last year but played 3 times the games, so he is actually a little down. Mostly that is on assists. His plus minus is low so you question the defensive side of his game.

 

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I posted this on the other UNH thread when the "conversation" turned to recruits. Probably fits better over here, wouldn't mind thoughts - maybe I am smoking something funny...

I like to look at college hockey recruits a couple ways:

Age – true freshman tend to need a little more time, some may impact end of freshman year but tend to have a higher ceiling. Older players tend to have a quicker hit but don’t grow as much. Much older players caveat emptor (Travis Banga anyone), late bloomers blow this all to hell but I find it a good indicator.

League/roll – if you don’t score in juniors you tend not to in college. However the BCHL has always been a bit more offensive (but I haven’t tracked lately) so you need to take it with a grain of salt.

Size – each level is bigger and faster and small guys tend to take a little longer to adjust (see Kelleher this year, Haydar being an obvious exception).

So my thoughts not seeing a single one of these guys play:

McNicholas – Nearly came in this year and will be arriving as a 20 year old, 5’ 10” 175, team leading scorer 3rd in goals, 5th in league. To me a little old means more immediate impact, not tiny but most UNH players that height are 185ish so he needs some muscle, I always worry about guys with high points totals due to assists does he have a line mate potting a pile of goals. Vernon has a 30, 26, 23 goal scorers so the spread isn’t crazy.

Eiserman – Will be 18 when he arrives 19 early in the season, 6’2” 200, 5th on team in goal scoring only 5 points back, 4th in goals, 9th in shots taken, ties for team leads at +20. Is he a true freshman? At only 18 when arriving on campus maybe, additionally his birthday is outside the typical 30 day kindergarten/1st grade window so he was likely one of the oldest in his grade not youngest, so I am guessing yes. Size will not be a limitation. Nobody on Dubuque is in the top 20 in USHL in points, hasn’t really shown a scoring touch yet either at NDP or USHL. But leading team in +- seems to indicate a responsible player.

Poturalski - Nearly came in this year and will be arriving as a 20 year old, 5’-10” 185, team leader in scoring by a big margin (59 to 33), team lead in goals and assists, 5th in points in USHL, only a +3. Is an older in coming player but took a big leap forward this year in goals, assists and +-. Cedar Rapids did finish with a .616 record, as a team only +13 and he is clearly the offensive leader. Even as an older player in the USHL to be that much of the offensive leader means attention from other teams. At 185 he is already close to the typical UNH playing weight for a player his size.

Foegele – True freshman hasn’t turned 18 yet (an April Fool…), 6’-1” 182, team leader and league leader in scoring a goal scorer. Young and seems a bit light for height. However the stat that jumps out is goals. He is scoring more than a goal a game and 3 times the goals as assists, is the league leader in goals almost 2 to 1 with 1 fewer game. In the playoffs is a goal a game player. Size a nose for the net is why he is rising so quickly. Question the competition.

Salvaggio – Will be 19 coming in turn 20 early in freshman year, 6-1” 194, 9th in scoring on his team, 5th in goals, bottom 3rd in +-. In points has shown scoring growth over last year but played 3 times the games, so he is actually a little down. Mostly that is on assists. His plus minus is low so you question the defensive side of his game.

I mentioned this a few days ago when I was in full fledge argument mode. I asked would you rather have ( assuming same skill level ) a bunch of 18 year old freshman , or a bunch of 21 year old freshman. This came about because Union has like twelve 24 year olds and six 23 year olds on their roster. To me this is a no brainer as you go with the more mature , physical older players. Years back in the ncaa's UNH lost to Niagara and R.I.T both with ancient players. This only works if your older dudes stick around and finish college.

 

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I mentioned this a few days ago when I was in full fledge argument mode. I asked would you rather have ( assuming same skill level ) a bunch of 18 year old freshman , or a bunch of 21 year old freshman. This came about because Union has like twelve 24 year olds and six 23 year olds on their roster. To me this is a no brainer as you go with the more mature , physical older players. Years back in the ncaa's UNH lost to Niagara and R.I.T both with ancient players. This only works if your older dudes stick around and finish college.

I honestly think you need a balance of:

1) 18-19 year old high flyers staying a couple years - see JVR
2) 18-19 year old "college" players - see Steve Saviano
3) 20-21 year old late bloomers that wont stay - TVR or Trevor Smith
4) 20-21 year old really late bloomers that stay - Lanny Gare

I just see the best teams having that balance. There is something about mixing the stupidity of youth with some older (potentially pessimistic) influences. It gives you quick hit and staying power.

If you get all NHL first round picks they stay 1 year, may never really bond into a team and leave. It is why older experienced teams can beat younger highly talented teams. Like all sports you need to find a balance of those 4 groups.

Take the Red Sox 2013 vs. 2012. It was all about the mix in 2013, steadying influences vs. youth, long haul team guys mixed with me guys. Or even this year’s Bruins, are they doing as well without the hunger of an Iginla?

 

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When I was considering former UNH players who each recruit reminds me of, I was thinking of characteristics like right vs left shot, primary position, body size/shape, speed, offensive and/or defensive skills, and scoring output.

A few thoughts:

Shane Eiserman – He’s a bruising 6’2”, 200 lbs left winger. Radja was smaller and played both wings and center. I don’t think Eiserman will play center, at least not at first. I frankly don’t remember much about Morrow (my kids were infants/toddlers at the time).

I didn't go with Winnik because he had a more finese than Eiserman, who is pretty limited. I agree that Radja is not a great comp, size wise, but I figure skill/production might be similar (20 points his first two years). Morrow was 6'2, with offensive skills, so more the body type.

Warren Foegele - I think coming in, Foegele is faster than Winnik was (Winnik worked hard on increasing his speed early in his pro career) and has potential to score more goals. At 6’1”, 182 lbs, Foegele may not be done growing. Leblanc was shorter and played center. Foegele may eventually play center but he’s primarily a left winger. I also think he has the potential to score more goals than Leblanc (highest were 14 goals each of last two seasons).

A though Gare was solid but was more heady than physical skills. I think of Foegele as having better tools, a mix of Winnik and Leblanc. As you say, better skater, not as large a frame. Leblanc came is as a true freshman, and I think Foegele will have greater playing time, but maybe a year ahead in scoring so that he has 15 points as a frosh (that Leblanc had as a soph), and 20-25 points as a soph.

Michael McNicholas – He’s a 5’10”, left shot centerman. Aikins was a right shot and a couple inches taller. There are a lot of similarities with DeSimone but I think McNicholas might end up scoring more goals. DeSimone’s highest at UNH was 10 goals in a season.

Aikins was a left shot (hockeydb is incorrect), and his game was like McNicholas, setting up plays more than finishing. McNicholas may be taller, has a similar slight frame, and Aikins took 2 years to get good production -- I suspect McNicholas will have similar struggles his freshman year. Also, McNicholas is not a big scorer, only 12 goals in midgets, and a high of 23 in juniors this year.

Dylan Chanter – I hope he’s a more diligent student than Joe Charlebois was.

That won't be hard. This year was pretty lost, developmentally, but I think his game is starting to round into shape.

All in all, the possibilities are exciting, as we see what the foundation for the next 4 years looks like.

For Salvaggio, probably similar in type to Josh Ciocco -- a good fifth forward recruit, with more skill than just a filler (like our other classes have been rounded out with). Ciocco became a top 2 line guy his senior year, and Salvaggio has the skill to do that, if needed, though you'd hope he is needed only for the 3rd line.

 

[Snively65]

I honestly think you need a balance of:

1) 18-19 year old high flyers staying a couple years - see JVR
2) 18-19 year old "college" players - see Steve Saviano
3) 20-21 year old late bloomers that wont stay - TVR or Trevor Smith
4) 20-21 year old really late bloomers that stay - Lanny Gare

I just see the best teams having that balance. There is something about mixing the stupidity of youth with some older (potentially pessimistic) influences.

My favorite Lanny Gare quote before he got injured his senior year was "Either the courses are getting harder, or I am getting stupider; I am not sure which." Perhaps my most enjoyable hockey practice ever was that Friday afternoon before the NC game in Buffalo, where Ayers was completely confident and Gare was skating all over the rink in his practice jersey retrieving pucks. If only he had been able to play the next day; the guy was a spark plug.

 

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My favorite Lanny Gare quote before he got injured his senior year was "Either the courses are getting harder, or I am getting stupider; I am not sure which." Perhaps my most enjoyable hockey practice ever was that Friday afternoon before the NC game in Buffalo, where Ayers was completely confident and Gare was skating all over the rink in his practice jersey retrieving pucks. If only he had been able to play the next day; the guy was a spark plug.

Ayers was balancing the stick on his chin and going up a down in his butterfly during that practice.

Wasn't Gare the one that said something to the affect of - I would rather be stabbed in Lowell than play for Maine...