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UNH Offseason Contract Edition.

Alien perhaps because in the 3 games at BC in the last 2 years UNH only scored 1 total goal and that was by someone named Blaisdell. I really want UNH to do well perhaps more than any other program in Hockey East but this lineup has me wondering how far they have to go to get back to when they were habitual participants at the Garden. There are no standouts that rank in the Hockey East charts. I am not putting UNH down because of any BC snottiness as Chuck Murray alluded to. My name BC/HE stands for BC and Hockey East. I just have concerns as to why UNH cannot recruit as well as Maine and UMass. They should be able to as Durham is not even as remote as either. If I was to question another team's lack of notoriety it would have to be UMass Lowell. Even Vermont has names that I recognize.

Alot of things in your post are things that many of us wonder about too, (your recruiting points, etc). Right now on the roster prob the most prolific player would be Ryan Conmy. In my 'era' there was Tyler Kelleher, Andrew Poturalski, TvR, Pesce; last 'prolific' player was Angus Crookshank.

That said, you have to admit that you guys are in a different mode all together when it comes to the above POV, obviously.

You know that for every 3 to 4 standout players that leave re-loading is never/rarely an issue. I mean, this season you guys are really fortunate that some of your big guns
stayed. UNH does not have that luxury and frankly, considering our lack of notoriety for player name recognition, we managed to pull of a decent season last year, despite the
disappointing HE tournament showing. . As was mentioned, we are facing a season with goal tender unknowns but I am feeling somewhat buoyed by the returning D, and a couple of incoming Freshmen (MacPherson twins) and a decent core of attack returning. So name recognition maybe a cool thing but where we are concerned,
not necessarily a 'thing' and welp, that's the long and short of it.

Anyhoo...

What HR really wants to know where is the schedule?!?
 
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Alien perhaps because in the 3 games at BC in the last 2 years UNH only scored 1 total goal and that was by someone named Blaisdell. I really want UNH to do well perhaps more than any other program in Hockey East but this lineup has me wondering how far they have to go to get back to when they were habitual participants at the Garden. There are no standouts that rank in the Hockey East charts. I am not putting UNH down because of any BC snottiness as Chuck Murray alluded to. My name BC/HE stands for BC and Hockey East. I just have concerns as to why UNH cannot recruit as well as Maine and UMass. They should be able to as Durham is not even as remote as either. If I was to question another team's lack of notoriety it would have to be UMass Lowell. Even Vermont has names that I recognize.

Ah, I get it! Alien, meaning BC vs UNH in head to head battles. Interesting, with "HE" in your name one would have assumed that you were a close follower of Hockey East games in general. Some of those "alien" names figured prominently in Hockey East game summaries, several Players of the Week, yada, yada yada. My bad, I guess?? :-\ LOL

UNH is still trying to recover from a 10+ year period of time where our illustrious AD took his a eye off of the "puck" and let a once-proud hockey program wither on the vine. Hiring an inexperienced head coach with a mediocre record as an assistant coach to try and turn the ship around was a BIG mistake....and nearly all of us were convinced that our new AD was going to give him his walking papers this past Spring. So, until there is a new regime in place, you are absolutely correct that UNH cannot recruit as well as Maine, UMass, and he11 yes, even Merrimack. Now that Souza has a new contract, it's going to be a long time before UNH finds its way back to the glory years of the the late '90's / early 00's when UNH and BC battles were so much fun to watch. Until then, enjoy the "alien" names that will continue to show up on UNH rosters :p
 
Ah, I get it! Alien, meaning BC vs UNH in head to head battles. Interesting, with "HE" in your name one would have assumed that you were a close follower of Hockey East games in general. Some of those "alien" names figured prominently in Hockey East game summaries, several Players of the Week, yada, yada yada. My bad, I guess?? :-\ LOL

UNH is still trying to recover from a 10+ year period of time where our illustrious AD took his a eye off of the "puck" and let a once-proud hockey program wither on the vine. Hiring an inexperienced head coach with a mediocre record as an assistant coach to try and turn the ship around was a BIG mistake....and nearly all of us were convinced that our new AD was going to give him his walking papers this past Spring. So, until there is a new regime in place, you are absolutely correct that UNH cannot recruit as well as Maine, UMass, and he11 yes, even Merrimack. Now that Souza has a new contract, it's going to be a long time before UNH finds its way back to the glory years of the the late '90's / early 00's when UNH and BC battles were so much fun to watch. Until then, enjoy the "alien" names that will continue to show up on UNH rosters :p

Hey Scott will I see you at the Summa Bar B Q? Hope so! And all the rest of yous that might show up! BTW I registered with the new ticket portal should be
alot more user friendly; many other school use this system I believe..
 
Ah, I get it! Alien, meaning BC vs UNH in head to head battles. Interesting, with "HE" in your name one would have assumed that you were a close follower of Hockey East games in general. Some of those "alien" names figured prominently in Hockey East game summaries, several Players of the Week, yada, yada yada. My bad, I guess?? :-\ LOL

Well, Scott ... it does seem he follows the BC home games vs. UNH pretty closely ... or at least the boxscores?!?

I mean, how else do you explain him recalling only a single name, and that being a 5th year 3rd line forward???
 
Well, Scott ... it does seem he follows the BC home games vs. UNH pretty closely ... or at least the boxscores?!?

I mean, how else do you explain him recalling only a single name, and that being a 5th year 3rd line forward???

I was at all those games but I do admit I had to look up the boxscore to find the name of that scorer. I do not recall that name either and without looking it up again I could not tell you who they were now. When watching a game in person, opponents that stand out are very noticeable and you watch for them. I recall watching Maine play a few years back and a young player not well known at the time caught my attention. He later became the focal point of their team. I am not saying that a team cannot perform well as a team without any standouts on offense as top-notch defensemen are sometimes ghosts on the ice. The ones that make huge blunders often are more noticeable so that is a good thing that they too are not recognizable. Solid defense and solid goaltending can keep a team in any game.
 
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Well, Scott ... it does seem he follows the BC home games vs. UNH pretty closely ... or at least the boxscores?!?

I mean, how else do you explain him recalling only a single name, and that being a 5th year 3rd line forward???

“Oh, Alternate Captain, My Alternate Captain …….. “

Apologies to Walt Whitman.
 
Did anyone see CHC’s posting from the King’s development camp? Apparently he made quite the splash. Let’s hope we get another year (or more)!

Could Conmy bolt for the Kings before this upcoming season? If so, we would be more like the “one and done” BC and BU teams.
 
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Did anyone see CHC’s posting from the King’s development camp? Apparently he made quite the splash. Let’s hope we get another year (or more)!

hey there! Where is said post? On the blog, elsewhere? Thanks if you can post the link. You know what I love about players who go to the camps?
They get (they should) excellent coaching..
 
I was at all those games but I do admit I had to look up the boxscore to find the name of that scorer. I do not recall that name either and without looking it up again I could not tell you who they were now. When watching a game in person, opponents that stand out are very noticeable and you watch for them. I recall watching Maine play a few years back and a young player not well known at the time caught my attention. He later became the focal point of their team. I am not saying that a team cannot perform well as a team without any standouts on offense as top-notch defensemen are sometimes ghosts on the ice. The ones that make huge blunders often are more noticeable so that is a good thing that they too are not recognizable. Solid defense and solid goaltending can keep a team in any game.

Paul Kariya?
 
hey there! Where is said post? On the blog, elsewhere? Thanks if you can post the link. You know what I love about players who go to the camps?
They get (they should) excellent coaching..

Ref, you must follow CHC on X, it was from 2 (?) days ago. He got it from a King’s podcast or blog. Something to the effect that he doesn’t like to carry on about development players but Comny was a real dog!
 
Ref, you must follow CHC on X, it was from 2 (?) days ago. He got it from a King’s podcast or blog. Something to the effect that he doesn’t like to carry on about development players but Comny was a real dog!

hi, I do but I didn't see any such post even looking at his feed. I'll check again, thanks! Upon a search I did see this one:


ALL THE KINGS MEN | LA KINGS PODCAST

@KingsMenPodcast

It’s rare that a player stands out to me at development camp Ryan Conmy is standing out to me at development camp I usually hate this kind of phrase but the kid appears to “have that dog in him”
 
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Could Conmy bolt for the Kings before this upcoming season? If so, we would be more like the “one and done” BC and BU teams.

Highly doubtful - after all, he's young, and this IS still just a camp setting - but my guess is the Kings will be watching his progress at UNH more closely this season, and if they think he should be accelerated into their farm system, he may be gone well before his senior season. We'll see ...
 
Highly doubtful - after all, he's young, and this IS still just a camp setting - but my guess is the Kings will be watching his progress at UNH more closely this season, and if they think he should be accelerated into their farm system, he may be gone well before his senior season. We'll see ...

So maybe a “two and done,” like JvR and Andrew Poturalski?
 
So maybe a “two and done,” like JvR and Andrew Poturalski?

I wouldn't be that worried about things just yet. With all due respect to C-H-C, the kid is a 19 yr. old 6th round draft choice, so expectations coming in were not terribly high, and maybe it was easy for Conmy to sneak up and surprise some folks at camp this time. JvR was a high profile draftee who was always gonna be fast-tracked, if for no other reason than he was the #2 overall pick in his draft class. Poturalski, on the other hand, was never drafted (like a certain Jason Krog), so he felt an urgency to jump at age 22 when an offer came in for him from Carolina, and for a short time at the start of his pro career, it looked like he might be someone who could fill a middle six role as a forward ... but in retrospect, he really was never a fit for the grind-it-out game preferred by Coach Brind'Amour, so when he failed to impress in some short cameos, that was pretty much it for any realistic shot at an NHL career. Not at all unlike our old friend Darren Haydar.

NHL teams are usually taking calculated risks by the latter rounds of the NHL Draft, and the longer the draft goes, the more the calculated risks can become an out-and-out gamble. Let's play a game ... have you ever heard of any of the following? Jakub Dvorak, Koehn Ziemmer, Hampton Slukynsky or Matthew Mania? Those are the four kids LA drafted in 2023 between Rounds 2 thru 5 before they got around to picking Conmy. The first kid looks like the plus-size defenseman which are so in vogue in the NHL these days. Ziemmer is bigger than Conmy, has scored more goals at a higher level, and probably fell a round due to injury this past season. Sluky is a goalie from Warroad MN who had a cup of coffee with the USNDT, and just won a title in the USHL. I'm not sure exactly what attracted LA's scouts to Mania (other than a super cool name), so to me, it looks like LA has expectations for the first two kids, and everyone after that is a "hit and hope".

For a 6th round draft pick to eventually sign an ELC (entry level contract) with an NHL team is pretty much an accomplishment in and of itself. I do see a certain Mike Buckley (f/k/a "Captain Video" while the UNH goalie coach) is the current LA Kings goalie coach, but he was in Pittsburgh the year before that, which maybe explains Casey DeSmith's career path to some degree, but seems a little bit off to explain a 6th round gamble on Conmy. LA also has decent-but-not-great scoring depth up front, so at least as things stand right now, if he continues to develop, Conmy could have a shot there.

So my guess is, barring injury or portal or other unusual developments, Conmy will probably get at least three seasons in at UNH, and could be a 50-50 shot at the elusive "four year player" status. FWIW another fairly recent 6th round NHL pick at UNH was goalie Mike Robinson, who was never offered an ELC by San Jose, which is hardly the breeding ground for goaltending excellence. They apparently saw a kid with size, and hoped for the best. If Conmy lit up camp (which almost seems an oxymoron in and of itself), then good for him. Now it becomes all about development, and if he showed LAK something they didn't know he had already, they will be watching him more closely now. It would be nice for MS7 and his guys to have an example of a kid who developed under their watch, so I'm rooting for the kid, not only for his personal situation, but also for the potential long term implications if MS7 2.0 can show he has learned some new tricks ...
 
And the Mayor, Trevor Smith?

Yes, good point, Aerman. Trevor Smith (2005/06-2006/07) was another of our “two and done” players in Durham. IIRC, Trevor flattened Ben Bishop when the U Maine goalie drifted outside of his crease at the far end of the Whitt.

Here are few more UNH “two and done” players, some from the Way Back Machine: Bob Miller (1974/75+1976/77), Rod Langway (1975/76-1976/77), Normand Lacombe (1981/82-1982/83), Peter Douris (1983/84-1984/85), Steve Leach (1984/85-1985/86), and maybe Warren Foegele at 1.5 years (2014/15-2015/).

I am mostly trying to be provocative in these posts to bring out Chuck’s in-depth analyses, like his thoughtful perspective on Ryan Conmy and others below.
 
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