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UNH Hockey: Treading Water or Trending Upward
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HockeyRef
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Pretty much...They came to play...we did not.
I’d make this team walk to UConn. They must have plenty of energy left. Say what you want about the horrific replay call and no goal but you can’t spot any team a 3 goal lead in the first 5 minutes and expect to win.
Observations from tonight
1. Poor discipline. First three goals all resulted from a guy alone with the puck
2. The physical game from last week was non existent
3. Gildon is the softest player since JVR. Puck goes to a dirty area he chips it to anyone to not get hit. I think it was goal 62 on the 2 on 1 he looked like a mite. FWIW -12 first two years
4. Easy play is Taylor tomorrow but I go back with Robinson. He looked shaky all night but also left alone on an island
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Chuck Murray
WIS & Effingwoods Hockey Almanac
Re: UNH Hockey: Treading Water or Trending Upward
So … you go down 3 quick goals … claw back to get even at 3-3 … then you give up 3 more in a row?
A lot of good work gets undone if UNH doesn't bounce back to win tomorrow night on the road.
So … you go down 3 quick goals … claw back to get even at 3-3 … then you give up 3 more in a row?
A lot of good work gets undone if UNH doesn't bounce back to win tomorrow night on the road.
JB
Desk Chair Coach
Re: UNH Hockey: Treading Water or Trending Upward
SOG and FOW don't matter much when you leave guys open in great scoring areas AND let the pass go to them.
UConn was getting behind the UNH D all night.
This is old time undisciplined UNH hockey and the results are the same a L for a woulda, coulda, shoulda W...
SOG and FOW don't matter much when you leave guys open in great scoring areas AND let the pass go to them.
UConn was getting behind the UNH D all night.
This is old time undisciplined UNH hockey and the results are the same a L for a woulda, coulda, shoulda W...
HockeyRef
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Re: UNH Hockey: Treading Water or Trending Upward
Long time UNH fan walks with me out of the 'Whitt and put it this way; if they lose tomorrow night they will be out of HE contention or it's going to be close. And, that the loss tonight diminished any chance of home ice. Now, I don't want to get all excited over this but for those of you in the know, is this a possible scenario??
So … you go down 3 quick goals … claw back to get even at 3-3 … then you give up 3 more in a row?
A lot of good work gets undone if UNH doesn't bounce back to win tomorrow night on the road.
Long time UNH fan walks with me out of the 'Whitt and put it this way; if they lose tomorrow night they will be out of HE contention or it's going to be close. And, that the loss tonight diminished any chance of home ice. Now, I don't want to get all excited over this but for those of you in the know, is this a possible scenario??
I think that the fan was being overly generous to UNH in his assessment, as UNH is almost certainly, if not mathematically, out of contention for home ice. And, if the Cats lose to Luce's team again tomorrow night, the Cats are likely stuck in 9th place for the regular season, as UConn would have been the likeliest team to leapfrog for 8th place.
JB
Desk Chair Coach
The standings are too tight and there are too many games left to be that specific. After today UNH will still have a game in hand over both Maine and UConn. Therefore if UNH loses today and Wins the extra game then it is one point back with even number of games. Add in that Maine and UConn play 2 against each other in two weeks...
Also Northeastern, Providence and Lowell aren't that far away AND the not everyone can run the table.
All that said a loss today sure makes it harder, particularly because the schedule doesn't get any easier after UVM.
Also as a long time fan they are probably thinking a loss today and the second half slide is on...
NCAA watcher
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Re: UNH Hockey: Treading Water or Trending Upward
U Conn's John Evans had 3 goals 2 assists las night against us. Can we please get our own John Evans?
U Conn's John Evans had 3 goals 2 assists las night against us. Can we please get our own John Evans?
HockeyRef
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...and go 3 for 5 on the PP? First 6 mins of that game decided their fate...
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HockeyRef
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Re: UNH Hockey: Treading Water or Trending Upward
Yes indeed sir! Winning in the XL hasn't happened for the 'Cats so tonight's the night we'll make history....!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtc-WDrJncA
We're on to Connecticut....Oh wait....Yeah, we're on to Connecticut
Yes indeed sir! Winning in the XL hasn't happened for the 'Cats so tonight's the night we'll make history....!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtc-WDrJncA
e.cat
Seasoned Veteran
Lol!
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Chuck Murray
WIS & Effingwoods Hockey Almanac
Re: UNH Hockey: Treading Water or Trending Upward
Y'know, for a few years there in the late '70's, Styx was a magnificent band. Then "Babe" happened.
I couldn't agree with MS7's comments about the team's lack of maturity any more strongly than I do after last night's game. Giving up three goals on four shots in just over 5 minutes, doesn't require a whole lot of analysis. Not. Ready. For. Prime. Time. I mean … sometimes things happen, and maybe last night, it was the weird goal/no goal that could have turned a 4-3 deficit into a 4-3 lead, and from that point, there's no telling what might have happened. But even if it doesn't go your way on that call/non-call … you get kicked in the shorts, how do you respond? Just roll over, and ask for another one?!?
As long as the team learns from this one, and wins tonight, it's fine, and the program is better for it. This is hardly a program right now that has any institutional knowledge of how it feels to play in a winning D-1 program. There have been a lot of nicely surprising results this season, as recently as these last couple of weekends prior … but they're "surprising" precisely because of where this program has been for the last several years … swimming in a sea of mediocrity. Getting out of that mindset is harder than winning a few games against good teams. It's developing a different mindset - one where you show up and work hard to win most of the games you're supposed to win, and probably look to split the really tough ones. Losing to UConn or Bentley or Army or being swept by UMaine tells you there's plenty of work left to be done to drag this program out from the hangover of these last few seasons. Kudos to MS7 for calling a spade a spade, and not whining about a bad break on Goal #4.
As a side note … you almost wonder if MS7 and his guys went out to practices these last couple of weeks, focusing on mostly the things many of us have been whining about on here - poor special teams, getting better on the dot, etc. - and in doing so, got improved results in those areas of the game … but all the while, while the PP was on point last night, the PK has improved quite a bit, and I think you devotees of FOW have to be pleased with those stats (plus depth scoring continues to grow) … UNH blew it last night on the conventional 5-on-5, and on lack of defensive basics??
Tonight is not so much "make or break" for this season, but it is a gut check after a UNH team which started perhaps to believe some of its own headlines, got a rude awakening last night, and now needs to show the ability and the guts to respond in kind.
I don't care who scores first … I don't care who has more SOG's or FOW's … I don't care if the PP goes oh-fer, and I don't care if the PK lets in a goal or two. Tonight is all about scoring one (1) more goal than the opposition, whether it be after 60 minutes or 65 minutes. Simple as that.
In the words of a now-deceased icon not particularly admired in these here parts …
"Just win, baby!"
Y'know, for a few years there in the late '70's, Styx was a magnificent band. Then "Babe" happened.
I couldn't agree with MS7's comments about the team's lack of maturity any more strongly than I do after last night's game. Giving up three goals on four shots in just over 5 minutes, doesn't require a whole lot of analysis. Not. Ready. For. Prime. Time. I mean … sometimes things happen, and maybe last night, it was the weird goal/no goal that could have turned a 4-3 deficit into a 4-3 lead, and from that point, there's no telling what might have happened. But even if it doesn't go your way on that call/non-call … you get kicked in the shorts, how do you respond? Just roll over, and ask for another one?!?
As long as the team learns from this one, and wins tonight, it's fine, and the program is better for it. This is hardly a program right now that has any institutional knowledge of how it feels to play in a winning D-1 program. There have been a lot of nicely surprising results this season, as recently as these last couple of weekends prior … but they're "surprising" precisely because of where this program has been for the last several years … swimming in a sea of mediocrity. Getting out of that mindset is harder than winning a few games against good teams. It's developing a different mindset - one where you show up and work hard to win most of the games you're supposed to win, and probably look to split the really tough ones. Losing to UConn or Bentley or Army or being swept by UMaine tells you there's plenty of work left to be done to drag this program out from the hangover of these last few seasons. Kudos to MS7 for calling a spade a spade, and not whining about a bad break on Goal #4.
As a side note … you almost wonder if MS7 and his guys went out to practices these last couple of weeks, focusing on mostly the things many of us have been whining about on here - poor special teams, getting better on the dot, etc. - and in doing so, got improved results in those areas of the game … but all the while, while the PP was on point last night, the PK has improved quite a bit, and I think you devotees of FOW have to be pleased with those stats (plus depth scoring continues to grow) … UNH blew it last night on the conventional 5-on-5, and on lack of defensive basics??
Tonight is not so much "make or break" for this season, but it is a gut check after a UNH team which started perhaps to believe some of its own headlines, got a rude awakening last night, and now needs to show the ability and the guts to respond in kind.
I don't care who scores first … I don't care who has more SOG's or FOW's … I don't care if the PP goes oh-fer, and I don't care if the PK lets in a goal or two. Tonight is all about scoring one (1) more goal than the opposition, whether it be after 60 minutes or 65 minutes. Simple as that.
In the words of a now-deceased icon not particularly admired in these here parts …
"Just win, baby!"
e.cat
Seasoned Veteran
+1Y'know, for a few years there in the late '70's, Styx was a magnificent band. Then "Babe" happened.
I couldn't agree with MS7's comments about the team's lack of maturity any more strongly than I do after last night's game. Giving up three goals on four shots in just over 5 minutes, doesn't require a whole lot of analysis. Not. Ready. For. Prime. Time. I mean … sometimes things happen, and maybe last night, it was the weird goal/no goal that could have turned a 4-3 deficit into a 4-3 lead, and from that point, there's no telling what might have happened. But even if it doesn't go your way on that call/non-call … you get kicked in the shorts, how do you respond? Just roll over, and ask for another one?!?
As long as the team learns from this one, and wins tonight, it's fine, and the program is better for it. This is hardly a program right now that has any institutional knowledge of how it feels to play in a winning D-1 program. There have been a lot of nicely surprising results this season, as recently as these last couple of weekends prior … but they're "surprising" precisely because of where this program has been for the last several years … swimming in a sea of mediocrity. Getting out of that mindset is harder than winning a few games against good teams. It's developing a different mindset - one where you show up and work hard to win most of the games you're supposed to win, and probably look to split the really tough ones. Losing to UConn or Bentley or Army or being swept by UMaine tells you there's plenty of work left to be done to drag this program out from the hangover of these last few seasons. Kudos to MS7 for calling a spade a spade, and not whining about a bad break on Goal #4.
As a side note … you almost wonder if MS7 and his guys went out to practices these last couple of weeks, focusing on mostly the things many of us have been whining about on here - poor special teams, getting better on the dot, etc. - and in doing so, got improved results in those areas of the game … but all the while, while the PP was on point last night, the PK has improved quite a bit, and I think you devotees of FOW have to be pleased with those stats (plus depth scoring continues to grow) … UNH blew it last night on the conventional 5-on-5, and on lack of defensive basics??
Tonight is not so much "make or break" for this season, but it is a gut check after a UNH team which started perhaps to believe some of its own headlines, got a rude awakening last night, and now needs to show the ability and the guts to respond in kind.
I don't care who scores first … I don't care who has more SOG's or FOW's … I don't care if the PP goes oh-fer, and I don't care if the PK lets in a goal or two. Tonight is all about scoring one (1) more goal than the opposition, whether it be after 60 minutes or 65 minutes. Simple as that.
In the words of a now-deceased icon not particularly admired in these here parts …
"Just win, baby!"
It blows my mind how this club can be on you like "white on rice" and then in the next game not! Are they playing up and/or down to the competition? Taking nights off in Hockey East can bite you in the arse!
After the Whistle
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Re: UNH Hockey: Treading Water or Trending Upward
Just a crazy game, but not one that should totally surprised us. UConn isn't an elite team but they are the type of team that gives us fits. They are the biggest team in HE and they also have speed. A great timeout after the third goal but then, as we all witnessed, we let them back in. Last night we could not have started flatter but they actually quareented the victory by literally flying out of the starting gate. I still feel that splits of all of these last 10 games is a good showing for the year. Tighten up the team D but we also need for our goalies to stop the ones that the good ones stop or we will remain a so so team. Because of their size they can and will out physical us, and we need to make constant adjustments.
I would like to see more in game coaching. Let a shift know how they did, don't wait until the end of the period and use all those TV timeout for more feedback. Other teams seem to take better advantage of that. If they are still immature, as MS indicated, all the more reason and need for the immediacy of that feedback. This is a team that has shown so much more of what we all wanted this year. They still lack a real go to guy or two but we are getting more secondary scoring. It is a work in progress and we need to enjoy what is often a fun team to watch.
Go Cats! Get back on track this afternoon.
Just a crazy game, but not one that should totally surprised us. UConn isn't an elite team but they are the type of team that gives us fits. They are the biggest team in HE and they also have speed. A great timeout after the third goal but then, as we all witnessed, we let them back in. Last night we could not have started flatter but they actually quareented the victory by literally flying out of the starting gate. I still feel that splits of all of these last 10 games is a good showing for the year. Tighten up the team D but we also need for our goalies to stop the ones that the good ones stop or we will remain a so so team. Because of their size they can and will out physical us, and we need to make constant adjustments.
I would like to see more in game coaching. Let a shift know how they did, don't wait until the end of the period and use all those TV timeout for more feedback. Other teams seem to take better advantage of that. If they are still immature, as MS indicated, all the more reason and need for the immediacy of that feedback. This is a team that has shown so much more of what we all wanted this year. They still lack a real go to guy or two but we are getting more secondary scoring. It is a work in progress and we need to enjoy what is often a fun team to watch.
Go Cats! Get back on track this afternoon.
HockeyRef
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At a FOH meeting during Souzas first year he said something to the effect that he wouldn't be doing any of that once the game started...that the players would know their assignments and it was up to them to execute..agree this team has given us plenty to be excited about...but boy gotta get over that hump.
Todays huge. Go 'Cats!!
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