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UNH Commits & Recruiting: 2017 and Beyond
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May share time on the grandstand pine, err plastic, with Dawson and Nonis, but not Chanter, whose ship has sailed in.
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Watcher where did you see that thanks!
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Introducing our fifth <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/UNH21?src=hash">#UNH21</a> Wildcat, <a href="https://twitter.com/JamesMillzy27">@JamesMillzy27</a> to the team for the 2017-18 season! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GoUNH?src=hash">#GoUNH</a> <a href="https://t.co/HYWDfPn3bJ">pic.twitter.com/HYWDfPn3bJ</a></p>— UNH Wildcats Hockey (@UNHHockey) <a href="https://twitter.com/UNHHockey/status/878287315076034561">June 23, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Re: UNH Commits & Recruiting: 2017 and Beyond
Perhaps it is related. The roster page is empty as I assume they are making the updates now. I guess we will know for sure once the roster page goes back up.
Perhaps it is related. The roster page is empty as I assume they are making the updates now. I guess we will know for sure once the roster page goes back up.
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That is really cool that they have this in common; good Karma already! Congrats to Max!!
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Wow awesome!! That bumps up our draft picks on the roster...congrats Benton!!
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2001 NHL Draft Eddie Caron selected in Round 2 (52nd overall pick) by Edmonton Oilers. In the 2003 NHL Draft John Doherty was selected 57th overall by the Toronto Maple Leafs.
2001 NHL Draft Eddie Caron selected in Round 2 (52nd overall pick) by Edmonton Oilers. In the 2003 NHL Draft John Doherty was selected 57th overall by the Toronto Maple Leafs.
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Re: UNH Commits & Recruiting: 2017 and Beyond
Newly drafted UNH Dman Max Gildon on becoming a Fla Panther: (second interview)
http://tinyurl.com/ycraozoc
Newly drafted UNH Dman Max Gildon on becoming a Fla Panther: (second interview)
http://tinyurl.com/ycraozoc
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New roster is up....looks like the 'Cats are going to keep nine D-men on the roster, including Boyd :
http://www.unhwildcats.com/roster.aspx?path=mhockey
New roster is up....looks like the 'Cats are going to keep nine D-men on the roster, including Boyd :
http://www.unhwildcats.com/roster.aspx?path=mhockey
Thanks for posting. Nice photos. Unlike UMass, UNH does not pull support midway, is my read. And, Buck is still listed as goaltender coach; continued moonlighting via Skype?
deltabravo62
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Re: UNH Commits & Recruiting: 2017 and Beyond
I saw it was up Saturday night, It looks like they pulled the seniors and added the freshmen. I'm curious as to whether any departures other than seniors (Lazzaro/Boyd) would have been noted at this point and therefore removed. While Lazzaro is a non scholly guy has there ever been a time that the hockey team has carried 4 goalies on the roster? I hope that Boyd is available and well, seeing him still listed at this point is a plus.
I saw it was up Saturday night, It looks like they pulled the seniors and added the freshmen. I'm curious as to whether any departures other than seniors (Lazzaro/Boyd) would have been noted at this point and therefore removed. While Lazzaro is a non scholly guy has there ever been a time that the hockey team has carried 4 goalies on the roster? I hope that Boyd is available and well, seeing him still listed at this point is a plus.
Chuck Murray
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Re: UNH Commits & Recruiting: 2017 and Beyond
I'm mildly surprised to see Clark is still listed on the roster.
I'm mildly surprised to see Clark is still listed on the roster.
Re: UNH Commits & Recruiting: 2017 and Beyond
From an interview with Max Gildon at the 2017 NHL Entry Draft:
"UNH is a great program with a lot of history behind it," Gildon said. "I feel I can help them get back to the top. There's a great group of players and coaches around that program. I'm hoping I can contribute to what they already have started there."
From an interview with Max Gildon at the 2017 NHL Entry Draft:
"UNH is a great program with a lot of history behind it," Gildon said. "I feel I can help them get back to the top. There's a great group of players and coaches around that program. I'm hoping I can contribute to what they already have started there."
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With the U15 National Camp wrapping up over the past few days lets hope that UNH jumps on some of these 02' blue chips. Commesso was the lone UNH commit there and unofficially the stats sent to me he finished as the top goaltender with a 0.80GAA and a .976 save percentage and gave up one goal in 3 games. Filthy. Nows the time to be aggressive and go land some more 02 players!
With the U15 National Camp wrapping up over the past few days lets hope that UNH jumps on some of these 02' blue chips. Commesso was the lone UNH commit there and unofficially the stats sent to me he finished as the top goaltender with a 0.80GAA and a .976 save percentage and gave up one goal in 3 games. Filthy. Nows the time to be aggressive and go land some more 02 players!
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Commesso was undoubtedly best G at National Camp.
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Re: UNH Commits & Recruiting: 2017 and Beyond
I think, entering Mike's third year, it will be interesting to see if his recruiting has or will evolve once he can claw the reins out of Dick's clenched hands. Are the first two years of minimal recruiting of blue chippahs the product of his own philosophy, or the vaccum when Borek left and the anchor of Dickie weighing it down? In thinking about this question while tossing and turning at 2 am, I was reminded about why I have such antipathy toward Dick. He certainly would not know the Select festival or its participants if he happened to stumble into the rink by accident.
So, forgive my sleep deprived response:
Souza clearly stays away from pursuing blue chips (Commesso being the sole exception). His most notable recruits were late de-commits elsewhere (Wyse, Gildon) or late bloomers (Maass). Those actually are his most promising ones, so it may be that he prefers waiting. A bit risky that enough talent will percolate late, but lets see. The rest of his recruits are not 15 or 16 year olds, but the 17 -18 year old grouping of interesting but not blue chippahs (Sweeney, Wazny, Pierson, Bahn, Green, Verrier, MacAdams).
So, early recruiting
1. It is needed to get elite players. No doubt jumping early has a mixed rate, and you can see from the kids shed by North Dakota and BU, I (and Dan?) believe this is necessary to get top talent. (Sadly, UNH got the worst of the early recruiting, with Borek taking the kids who panned out -- Farabee and Ryczek, and leaving for UNH the unpleasant to cut loose those who didn't -- O'Neill, Darcy, Cipollone (Esposito?). Even the late de-commits have too many options, like Biro and Limoges who went to Penn State
2. Pursuing early blue chippahs has further importance because it sends a signal of desirabilty to other recruits, who want to be deemed a blue chippah and want to know that your program will go after them.
All of the top programs do it, and those that didn't because they initially lacked the cred (Penn State, Quinnipiac) started to do so as soon as their reputation allowed it. It creates a buzz amoung the age group, and creates momentum. The only exception is Lowell, which does not seek those early commits.
So, until UNH gets new cred to do it by having the team incrementally improve (and thereby become a name), or a new recruiter (who may take more chances in that age group), they really would be limited to the riskier sub-blue chippah 15 or 16 market in which there are lots of flameouts.
BTW, I see Northeastern just got a 15 year old from Berwick Academy who was at the Select 15 tourney. Not a blue chippah, but they're comfortable in that market.
Lemonade, I'm glad you are thinking about the 02s. Commesso may have to do a lot of heavy lifting on his age group, because UNH has a lot working against it right now.
I think, entering Mike's third year, it will be interesting to see if his recruiting has or will evolve once he can claw the reins out of Dick's clenched hands. Are the first two years of minimal recruiting of blue chippahs the product of his own philosophy, or the vaccum when Borek left and the anchor of Dickie weighing it down? In thinking about this question while tossing and turning at 2 am, I was reminded about why I have such antipathy toward Dick. He certainly would not know the Select festival or its participants if he happened to stumble into the rink by accident.
So, forgive my sleep deprived response:
Souza clearly stays away from pursuing blue chips (Commesso being the sole exception). His most notable recruits were late de-commits elsewhere (Wyse, Gildon) or late bloomers (Maass). Those actually are his most promising ones, so it may be that he prefers waiting. A bit risky that enough talent will percolate late, but lets see. The rest of his recruits are not 15 or 16 year olds, but the 17 -18 year old grouping of interesting but not blue chippahs (Sweeney, Wazny, Pierson, Bahn, Green, Verrier, MacAdams).
So, early recruiting
1. It is needed to get elite players. No doubt jumping early has a mixed rate, and you can see from the kids shed by North Dakota and BU, I (and Dan?) believe this is necessary to get top talent. (Sadly, UNH got the worst of the early recruiting, with Borek taking the kids who panned out -- Farabee and Ryczek, and leaving for UNH the unpleasant to cut loose those who didn't -- O'Neill, Darcy, Cipollone (Esposito?). Even the late de-commits have too many options, like Biro and Limoges who went to Penn State
2. Pursuing early blue chippahs has further importance because it sends a signal of desirabilty to other recruits, who want to be deemed a blue chippah and want to know that your program will go after them.
All of the top programs do it, and those that didn't because they initially lacked the cred (Penn State, Quinnipiac) started to do so as soon as their reputation allowed it. It creates a buzz amoung the age group, and creates momentum. The only exception is Lowell, which does not seek those early commits.
So, until UNH gets new cred to do it by having the team incrementally improve (and thereby become a name), or a new recruiter (who may take more chances in that age group), they really would be limited to the riskier sub-blue chippah 15 or 16 market in which there are lots of flameouts.
BTW, I see Northeastern just got a 15 year old from Berwick Academy who was at the Select 15 tourney. Not a blue chippah, but they're comfortable in that market.
Lemonade, I'm glad you are thinking about the 02s. Commesso may have to do a lot of heavy lifting on his age group, because UNH has a lot working against it right now.
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