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UNH At The Starting Gate....

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Death, Taxes, and UNH complaining about the refs after a loss. Classic.
You forgot "Onion Man chiming in on things he knows nothing about".

Of course you would have. The next time a Skating Mother Teresa commits a legit penalty will be the first. :rolleyes:
The "Skating Mother Teresa" got old sometime around Dartmouth's last NCAA appearance. I'm pretty sure every UNH fan would agree that the problem was more the non-calls versus Dartmouth (great replay of an elbow to the face on the jumbotron) rather than what was called on UNH.
 
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CBG...For the most part I think you are spot on with this assesment.....I think you may have given UNH too much credit for what I think was an uninspired third period. The last 2 Dartmouth goals were all produced by a team wanting to play more than our beloved Wildcats.

I thought UNH applied some good pressure for the first chunk of the third, but as the period wore on, you are right. UNH would get the puck in the DC end, get a chance or two, and then Dartmouth would clear it and keep it in the UNH end for a solid couple of minutes. Can't let that happen.
 
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Kudos to Dartmouth. They matched UNH goal-for-goal in a "last team who scores, wins" kind of game. In an 8-day period, Dartmouth barely lost to #1 Yale 2-1 and beat #4 UNH 5-4. Very impressive.

Up until 18:25 of the first period, I thought UNH played very well and were comfortably dominating the game. Their passes were crisp and accurate, they were getting quality shots on goal, and Dartmouth looked overmatched. Then came a needless tripping penalty on Kessel - he tripped the Dartmouth guy just outside the UNH blueline in the neutral zone, right in front of the UNH bench. The Dartmouth player was not leading a rush and was in a relatively harmless position. 30 seconds later, Dartmouth scores a powerplay goal to make it 1-1 and you could almost see them saying "Hey, we can score on these guys - let's go after 'em."

On the second Dartmouth goal, Henrion got a nice assist - passing from behind the UNH net to a Dartmouth player in the faceoff circle. Give credit to Henrion though - he redeemed himself with 2 goals of his own.

I thought both DiGirolamo and Mello played average games. Neither made many spectacular saves and both allowed in some medium-quality chances.

Another juggling of the 2nd, 3rd and 4th lines. Burke joined Borisenok and Moses on the 2nd line. Silengo centered Henrion and Goumas and Block centered Sorkin on the left wing and Speelman on the right wing. It's still early enough in the season to be juggling lines but this current configuration has it's drawbacks. The biggest is that replacing Speelman with Burke completely changes the character of the Borisnok-Moses line. With Speelman on their left wing, they have possibly the three best forecheckers on the team who can also fly up and down the ice. Plug Burke in for Speelman and the line's speed goes down through center ice and in the offensive zone. I know Burke is a very talented player who deserves to be on one of the top lines but I think he matches up better with tough, hardnosed forwards who like to bang people in the offensive zone (e.g., Block, McCarey, even Henrion). The other drawback is Speelman's on-ice time is diminished when he's on the 4th line and he plays the awkward left-hand shot on the right wing position.

My guess is there will be ample comments about the officiating in the post-game interviews. They did make a couple of errors which could have cost UNH. The first was midway through the second period (with the score tied at 2-2) when a Dartmouth player crosschecked Goumas in the middle of his back, slamming him into the boards. The ref called matching penalties claiming that Goumas "embellished." It looked to me like Goumas's head snapped backward when he hit the boards - a move which is hard to fake. The second costly officiating error came with a little over a minute left in the game. A UNH forward (I forget who) was rushing the puck across the redline and was clearly tripped. No call. Another controversial call was that the refs refused to review the final Dartmouth goal, despite Coach Umile's screaming appeals. The replay on the jumbotron appeared to show that the goal was good.

In a move which I hope Gibber caught on film, Umile walked across the ice, after shaking Gaudet's hand, in the direction of the two referees who were hold up in the far corner of the rink. Umile yelled at them while vigorously pointing his finger at them. He stopped his pursuit when he reached the line of players shaking hands at mid-ice. All-in-all, I'd say the crowd got it's money's worth.

-I thought UNH played well much of the game with isolated breakdowns . We out shot Dartmouth in the first 2 periods. The Dartmouth goal at the start of the 3 third period was momentum changing goal in Dartmouth’s favor

-Goaltending, I thought Digi was fighting the puck all night. I’m not putting the loss on him but I think this was his weakest game all year. Over the past few games he seems to be leaving more rebound than earlier in the year.

-I like Burke a lot with Bori and Moses. Burke I thought played well and gave a physical presents to that line. Burke has pretty good hands and I like his decision making with the puck. Regarding his speed, he does has somewhat of a choppy skating style that but his speed is a little deceiving. At one point he got a pass from Bori in the neutral zone and actually went down and beat a Dartmouth D wide. This line created much pressure in the offensive zone for much of the game. I believe Bori hit the post twice. Third period they went -2 but it looked to be more of a defenseman issue. One thing that can improve is Moses looking up when he has the puck. He does not see the open man…he always has his head down. I know this group has been dry lately , but they been creating opportunities……..thing will fall at some point.

-I like Henrion straight forward style….nothing fancy here….just shoot the puck from wherever you’re at …and guess what …it goes in!

-I don’t get why Mc Carey is not playing…….he can’t fill a role on the fourth line? I would use him instead of Block.

-In the post game interview the Dartmouth player admited he swatted the puck out of the air for the last goal .....check it out on "Inside Hockey"

This team will be fine moving forward….
 
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-In the post game interview the Dartmouth player admited he swatted the puck out of the air for the last goal .....check it out on "Inside Hockey"

So? It's not illegal to swat it out of the air, it's illegal to swat it out of the air above the crossbar.

Also, it wasn't reviewed because it couldn't be reviewed. Doesn't matter if the jumbotron as replay, matters if there's a system in place to review the call. My basketball team (Creighton) got screwed out of a game on a similar call - Iowa State sank a buzzer beater for the win. Replays, including the one on the arena scoreboard, showed it was after the buzzer, however. But since there was no monitor at the scorer's table, it couldn't be reviewed by the refs on the court. Same principle here.
 
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So? It's not illegal to swat it out of the air, it's illegal to swat it out of the air above the crossbar.

Also, it wasn't reviewed because it couldn't be reviewed. Doesn't matter if the jumbotron as replay, matters if there's a system in place to review the call. My basketball team (Creighton) got screwed out of a game on a similar call - Iowa State sank a buzzer beater for the win. Replays, including the one on the arena scoreboard, showed it was after the buzzer, however. But since there was no monitor at the scorer's table, it couldn't be reviewed by the refs on the court. Same principle here.

yes...I get it.....I'm with ya...my point was that if repays were available it would be called back. On the jumbotron you could see the put in the air about cross bar high and the player takes a swipe....but you couldn't tell if he hit it. In the interview he said he did... Just a FYI....bottom line is the goal is good and the game is over
 
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Of course you would have. The next time a Skating Mother Teresa commits a legit penalty will be the first. :rolleyes:

Glad to know things haven't changed since I left Hanover and returned to the midwest.
The only penalty anyone was complaining about was the embelishment which was just a dumb call. I think most people had a problem with the non-calls, and no one has blamed the loss on officiating, though there's a reason they're in your league. :p

yes...I get it.....I'm with ya...my point was that if repays were available it would be called back. On the jumbotron you could see the put in the air about cross bar high and the player takes a swipe....but you couldn't tell if he hit it. In the interview he said he did... Just a FYI....bottom line is the goal is good and the game is over

From ice level, I thought it was a good goal, personally, and on the jumbotron replay, I still didn't think it was a high stick, but can see if there was replay available they would have checked it out. I thought I heard they reviewed the non-goal for DC earlier in the period but refused to replay the last goal, which would have been absurd, but word was that they confered with the goal judge to see if it was a goal or not (I was underneath moving to a different corner across the ice). I'm not sure if that is what happened or not...
 
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I generally try to remind myself to enjoy the ride. Only 1 team wins the game that matters each year. I always hope UNH will win that one "this year" (as in any this year). However if you forget to enjoy the ride each year with each team then why bother watching any of the games before that one...
 
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I enjoy reading Mike Zhe's coverage of UNH hockey. He's an objective beat writer who calls 'em as he sees 'em - including criticizing the team and coaches when it is warranted. This article accurately describes what is probably the dominant mindset of many UNH fans at this juncture in the season. A part of my fanbrain is thinking the same thing. However, I'm inclined to agree with JB on this one. If you set your mind to look for the pretty passes, laser-accurate shots, flashy saves, team cohesiveness, come-from-behind wins, etc., the Wildcats don't let you down. This team is packed with talented kids - most are not "NHL talented" kids, but are highly skilled players nonetheless. Since the memorable last second win against North Dakota in the NCAA tournament in Manchester, UNH has also been a hard-working team who don't mail it in.

The Dartmouth game shows (once again) that on any given night, a team nationally ranked in the top 20 (or so) can beat any other team in this same category. That's the major reason it is so difficult to win the NCAA tournament. Everything has to happen just right - the aspects of the game a team can control and all those things which are beyond anyone's control. UNH consistently earns an invitation to the big dance and that's a major source of pride. However, it's the game-by-game excitement and accomplishments that gets one out of the house and into the Whitt on those cold dark nights - and, which matter just as much.
 
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I enjoy reading Mike Zhe's coverage of UNH hockey. He's an objective beat writer who calls 'em as he sees 'em - including criticizing the team and coaches when it is warranted. This article accurately describes what is probably the dominant mindset of many UNH fans at this juncture in the season. A part of my fanbrain is thinking the same thing. However, I'm inclined to agree with JB on this one. If you set your mind to look for the pretty passes, laser-accurate shots, flashy saves, team cohesiveness, come-from-behind wins, etc., the Wildcats don't let you down. This team is packed with talented kids - most are not "NHL talented" kids, but are highly skilled players nonetheless. Since the memorable last second win against North Dakota in the NCAA tournament in Manchester, UNH has also been a hard-working team who don't mail it in.

The Dartmouth game shows (once again) that on any given night, a team nationally ranked in the top 20 (or so) can beat any other team in this same category. That's the major reason it is so difficult to win the NCAA tournament. Everything has to happen just right - the aspects of the game a team can control and all those things which are beyond anyone's control. UNH consistently earns an invitation to the big dance and that's a major source of pride. However, it's the game-by-game excitement and accomplishments that gets one out of the house and into the Whitt on those cold dark nights - and, which matter just as much.

Right on Brother! ......
 
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I generally try to remind myself to enjoy the ride. Only 1 team wins the game that matters each year. I always hope UNH will win that one "this year" (as in any this year). However if you forget to enjoy the ride each year with each team then why bother watching any of the games before that one...

I've been saying it all along. This is the year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can't wait to see what type of parade/celebration UNH gets. Duckboat parade in Durham maybe?!?!?! :) :) :)
 
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So? It's not illegal to swat it out of the air, it's illegal to swat it out of the air above the crossbar.

Also, it wasn't reviewed because it couldn't be reviewed. Doesn't matter if the jumbotron as replay, matters if there's a system in place to review the call. My basketball team (Creighton) got screwed out of a game on a similar call - Iowa State sank a buzzer beater for the win. Replays, including the one on the arena scoreboard, showed it was after the buzzer, however. But since there was no monitor at the scorer's table, it couldn't be reviewed by the refs on the court. Same principle here.

You're correct on your first point.

You're not on your second; they reviewed a goal earlier in the game, so obviously they have the system. However, it was a goal; contact with the puck as made below the crossbar. Close, but a goal -- and UNH didn't deserve OT.

As for the rest of the officiating; three things: the "embellishment" call on Goumas was the worst call I have ever seen. His had snapped back as he was checked into the boards, he got up and continued skating right away, and then got called. 2) The no-call on the trip during the UNH rush late in the period. 3) Dartmouth certainly looked offsides -- from my seat on the blue line -- on their final rush.

Having said all that: Dartmouth looked like the team who wanted it more. I was nervous about that game going in, because they've been playing well all year and I'm sure they wanted to make a statement. They did.

Teams in white and green versus teams in blue was a bad combo last weekend (if you liked the teams in blue . . .)
 
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I generally try to remind myself to enjoy the ride. Only 1 team wins the game that matters each year. I always hope UNH will win that one "this year" (as in any this year). However if you forget to enjoy the ride each year with each team then why bother watching any of the games before that one...

I enjoy reading Mike Zhe's coverage of UNH hockey. He's an objective beat writer who calls 'em as he sees 'em - including criticizing the team and coaches when it is warranted. This article accurately describes what is probably the dominant mindset of many UNH fans at this juncture in the season. A part of my fanbrain is thinking the same thing. However, I'm inclined to agree with JB on this one. If you set your mind to look for the pretty passes, laser-accurate shots, flashy saves, team cohesiveness, come-from-behind wins, etc., the Wildcats don't let you down. This team is packed with talented kids - most are not "NHL talented" kids, but are highly skilled players nonetheless. Since the memorable last second win against North Dakota in the NCAA tournament in Manchester, UNH has also been a hard-working team who don't mail it in.

The Dartmouth game shows (once again) that on any given night, a team nationally ranked in the top 20 (or so) can beat any other team in this same category. That's the major reason it is so difficult to win the NCAA tournament. Everything has to happen just right - the aspects of the game a team can control and all those things which are beyond anyone's control. UNH consistently earns an invitation to the big dance and that's a major source of pride. However, it's the game-by-game excitement and accomplishments that gets one out of the house and into the Whitt on those cold dark nights - and, which matter just as much.

You guys are right. Thanks for reminding me. Hell I remember the old ECAC days when beating Harvard, Cornell, BC and BU made for a great season:)

I've been saying it all along. This is the year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can't wait to see what type of parade/celebration UNH gets. Duckboat parade in Durham maybe?!?!?! :) :) :)

Yeah we can have the "rollin' rally" that Menino was planning for the Pats but wait, he must be reserving that for BC. We all know how Jerry gets his team ready for "trophy season"!!
 
You guys are right. Thanks for reminding me. Hell I remember the old ECAC days when beating Harvard, Cornell, BC and BU made for a great season:)



Yeah we can have the "rollin' rally" that Menino was planning for the Pats but wait, he must be reserving that for BC. We all know how Jerry gets his team ready for "trophy season"!!

Perhaps we can recruit Menino to repeat the phrase "Let's mount the Ducks"
 
You forgot "Onion Man chiming in on things he knows nothing about".


The "Skating Mother Teresa" got old sometime around Dartmouth's last NCAA appearance. I'm pretty sure every UNH fan would agree that the problem was more the non-calls versus Dartmouth (great replay of an elbow to the face on the jumbotron) rather than what was called on UNH.

Would you be so kind as to share the Mother Theresa on Ice story? I'm not aware of that one.
 
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Perhaps we can recruit Menino to repeat the phrase "Let's mount the Ducks"


ha ha ha ha ha ha. Classic Menino. The gift that keeps on giving:) Can't you just visualize Menino mounting a duck:eek::)
 
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Hey Everyone,

Biz has some video of yesterday's UNH Press Conference Featuring Umile, Blake Kessel and Mike Beck:


Have a great day!
 
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ha ha ha ha ha ha. Classic Menino. The gift that keeps on giving:) Can't you just visualize Menino mounting a duck:eek::)

I am amazed he keeps getting elected Mayor. Apparently the good folks of Boston don’t find him as much of a buffoon as the rest of us.
 
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