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UNH At The Starting Gate....
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i'zonprize
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Not sure why, but McCarey's absense appeared to be the reason for juggling Henrion on both the 3rd and at times 4th lines. Kinda liked seeing the Goumas/Silengo/Henrion combo though. It gave me the impression anyway that Umile could potentially put together several interesting combo's on the ice, I think we may see some additional juggling as UNH closes out the 1st half of the year.
Merrimack - give them credit, they forchecked well- were aggressive, and clogged up the middle very well. UNH held under 30shot is no fluke either.
Also, Digi seems to alway leave the puck for a D-Man to come and pick up when it's shot into the zone. On the PP this hurt a few times as, Merrimack could have been cought on line changes during the PK. I wonder if he being told not to pass the puck up the ice? I don't recall seeing him do it-
I do have to say, Thompson continues to lead by example. Not only in the box score but the way he plays. It's great to see a player enter the zone with the puck and challenge the defenders 1-1, and force them to make a play vs. pulling up, drifting to the circles or the boards and waiting for a trailer to dish it to. Moses goes right after them as well- that's exciting hockey!!
Two more periods of lackidaisical play and UNH was in a big hole - again. Coach Umile juggled the 3rd and 4th lines: Goumas-Silengo-Henrion and Speelman-Block-Pavelski. He must have seen something in practice to lead to this change. But, frankly, it didn't work. They seemed out of sync on most shifts and, overall, the team generated many fewer shots on goal by the end of the 2nd period - only 18. Midway through the third period, Henrion was back with Block and Speelman and Pavelski joined Goumas and Silengo. They clicked better after that.
DiGi's play merited the first star but Thompson was a worthy recipient as well. There were still too many turnovers in UNH's end leading to decent chances by Merrimack. The Moses-Borisenok-Sorkin line was probably the most consistent throughout the game. Borisenok's ability to steal the puck and control it in traffic is really impressive. Sorkin's speed continues to be a good fit with Moses and Borisenok but I noticed that he was bumped off the puck a number of times along the boards in the Merrimack zone. This is one aspect of play that Greg Burke has the advantage. He seems to be stronger and more stable with the puck than Sorkin. What Burke lacks in foot-speed, he makes up for in strength. It will be interesting to see how Burke is reintegrated into the team when he recovers from mono.
Not sure why, but McCarey's absense appeared to be the reason for juggling Henrion on both the 3rd and at times 4th lines. Kinda liked seeing the Goumas/Silengo/Henrion combo though. It gave me the impression anyway that Umile could potentially put together several interesting combo's on the ice, I think we may see some additional juggling as UNH closes out the 1st half of the year.
Merrimack - give them credit, they forchecked well- were aggressive, and clogged up the middle very well. UNH held under 30shot is no fluke either.
Also, Digi seems to alway leave the puck for a D-Man to come and pick up when it's shot into the zone. On the PP this hurt a few times as, Merrimack could have been cought on line changes during the PK. I wonder if he being told not to pass the puck up the ice? I don't recall seeing him do it-
I do have to say, Thompson continues to lead by example. Not only in the box score but the way he plays. It's great to see a player enter the zone with the puck and challenge the defenders 1-1, and force them to make a play vs. pulling up, drifting to the circles or the boards and waiting for a trailer to dish it to. Moses goes right after them as well- that's exciting hockey!!
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Apparently the latter (see C-H-C post above). Wish that I been there, but I watched a fairly intertaining game in Watertown, MA, last evening.
Was it me or was Henrion splitting time with 2 different lines all night
Apparently the latter (see C-H-C post above). Wish that I been there, but I watched a fairly intertaining game in Watertown, MA, last evening.
RockTheWhit
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Re: UNH At The Starting Gate....
The only time I remember Digi passing the puck up ice last night, he fired it to UNH's bench during a change and they were whistled for too many men.
As far as lines 3-4 go, it has been a few games since the all-sophomore line had created offense, so it didn't surprise me to see them broken up to start the game. All three of them have showed this year, though, that they warrant important minutes so hopefully last night served as a wake-up call to them. Either way, glad to see Umile juggling lines. Pavelski made a few plays last night that impressed me. Hope to see him get more of a consistent chance out there.
The only time I remember Digi passing the puck up ice last night, he fired it to UNH's bench during a change and they were whistled for too many men.
As far as lines 3-4 go, it has been a few games since the all-sophomore line had created offense, so it didn't surprise me to see them broken up to start the game. All three of them have showed this year, though, that they warrant important minutes so hopefully last night served as a wake-up call to them. Either way, glad to see Umile juggling lines. Pavelski made a few plays last night that impressed me. Hope to see him get more of a consistent chance out there.
unh_hockey
pain is temporary pride is forever
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I'll chime in after seeing my first UNH game in over a year.
No real standouts like in years like 99, 02, 03 etc. Both clubs played fairly respectable D and clogged the neutral zones well. A few dumb plays here and there, but it seems UNHs transition from D to O improved with this new crop of players. Honestly, I like the effort from all the guys on the ice. I can imagine its hard to match up against a team that rolls 4 solid ( read none outstanding) lines. It was a bit of a mismatch between the warriors size and the UNH forwards, but our guys stepped it up and played physical in both ends when needed.
Players that impressed me were Sorkin and Goumas, and players that did not were Hardowa and Moses ( could have been an off night). Moses has nasty wheels but no hands, and Hardowa looked a bit lost and didn't use his body as much as one would expect from a blue liner. Sorkin is a tall kid but doesn't look stalky yet still forchecked and played the body really well. As a team, they played a very responsible defensive system which I like..even if the goals weren't as frequent. The team effort was great and it showed with another W on the score sheet.
I'll chime in after seeing my first UNH game in over a year.
No real standouts like in years like 99, 02, 03 etc. Both clubs played fairly respectable D and clogged the neutral zones well. A few dumb plays here and there, but it seems UNHs transition from D to O improved with this new crop of players. Honestly, I like the effort from all the guys on the ice. I can imagine its hard to match up against a team that rolls 4 solid ( read none outstanding) lines. It was a bit of a mismatch between the warriors size and the UNH forwards, but our guys stepped it up and played physical in both ends when needed.
Players that impressed me were Sorkin and Goumas, and players that did not were Hardowa and Moses ( could have been an off night). Moses has nasty wheels but no hands, and Hardowa looked a bit lost and didn't use his body as much as one would expect from a blue liner. Sorkin is a tall kid but doesn't look stalky yet still forchecked and played the body really well. As a team, they played a very responsible defensive system which I like..even if the goals weren't as frequent. The team effort was great and it showed with another W on the score sheet.
i'zonprize
GRANITE STATE PRIDE
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Moses so much reminds much of that pitcher that can chuck the ball 95+mph but is just off the strike zone! Moses could ease up just a tad for his hands to catch up as he's approaching the net, he'd propapbly have 4-5more goals easily and be one of the most if not the most offensively feared guys in the league. He's got a lot of goalies beat cold, but he either loses the handle, or shoots off the net. Hope he can find a speed that works..100mph is not always the most effective speed when you can't control when things are going to end up. No doubt about that. Anyway, I think we all enjoy seeing Steve play- he's aggressive, plays clean & goes right to the net and although he might miss a few he doesn't let up just because he's missed, no doubt about that either.
Moses has nasty wheels but no hands.
Moses so much reminds much of that pitcher that can chuck the ball 95+mph but is just off the strike zone! Moses could ease up just a tad for his hands to catch up as he's approaching the net, he'd propapbly have 4-5more goals easily and be one of the most if not the most offensively feared guys in the league. He's got a lot of goalies beat cold, but he either loses the handle, or shoots off the net. Hope he can find a speed that works..100mph is not always the most effective speed when you can't control when things are going to end up. No doubt about that. Anyway, I think we all enjoy seeing Steve play- he's aggressive, plays clean & goes right to the net and although he might miss a few he doesn't let up just because he's missed, no doubt about that either.
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Some fun facts from the American Hockey League:
Leading Goal Scorers
Bobby Butler - 14 g - 2nd Place
Darren Haydar - 11 g - Tied 5th Place
Jacob Micflikier - 10 g - Tied 6th
Leading Scorers
Bobby Butler - 22 pts - Tied 6th Place
Jason Krog - 22 pts - Tied 6th
Darren Haydar - 21 pts - Tied 7th Place
Jacob Micflikier - 19 pts - Tied 9th
Some fun facts from the American Hockey League:
Leading Goal Scorers
Bobby Butler - 14 g - 2nd Place
Darren Haydar - 11 g - Tied 5th Place
Jacob Micflikier - 10 g - Tied 6th
Leading Scorers
Bobby Butler - 22 pts - Tied 6th Place
Jason Krog - 22 pts - Tied 6th
Darren Haydar - 21 pts - Tied 7th Place
Jacob Micflikier - 19 pts - Tied 9th
unh_hockey
pain is temporary pride is forever
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They had a interview with stamkos who mentioned that earlier in his career that he didn't have good hands or a good shot. In addition to his practice and games, he would shoot 500-600 pucks off synthetic material each day. I have also come across some of his stick handling drills on youtube and they are pretty nuts too. In addition to insane genetics comes freakish dedication and work ethic ; something I don't think many fanbases can understand.
again, not knocking on Moses, but just found it interesting that other players have these problems and put in serious dedication to solve them. To be clear, I respect anyone who can lace em up for a D1 squad. The term 'no hands' is relative, and I would kill to be a crappy player on the club.
also to be clear, I think UNH is playing a very complete team game this year. This is much more important than a few extra goals potted by an individual. I hope they can keep this up
Moses so much reminds much of that pitcher that can chuck the ball 95+mph but is just off the strike zone! Moses could ease up just a tad for his hands to catch up as he's approaching the net, he'd propapbly have 4-5more goals easily and be one of the most if not the most offensively feared guys in the league. He's got a lot of goalies beat cold, but he either loses the handle, or shoots off the net. Hope he can find a speed that works..100mph is not always the most effective speed when you can't control when things are going to end up. No doubt about that. Anyway, I think we all enjoy seeing Steve play- he's aggressive, plays clean & goes right to the net and although he might miss a few he doesn't let up just because he's missed, no doubt about that either.
They had a interview with stamkos who mentioned that earlier in his career that he didn't have good hands or a good shot. In addition to his practice and games, he would shoot 500-600 pucks off synthetic material each day. I have also come across some of his stick handling drills on youtube and they are pretty nuts too. In addition to insane genetics comes freakish dedication and work ethic ; something I don't think many fanbases can understand.
again, not knocking on Moses, but just found it interesting that other players have these problems and put in serious dedication to solve them. To be clear, I respect anyone who can lace em up for a D1 squad. The term 'no hands' is relative, and I would kill to be a crappy player on the club.
also to be clear, I think UNH is playing a very complete team game this year. This is much more important than a few extra goals potted by an individual. I hope they can keep this up
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Dartmouth was named Team of the Week by College Hockey News.Looks like the annual battle with Dartmouth in January will truly be a battle.
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Stamkos was being very, very modest. At 10 he broke all of Gretzkys records in Toronto(played for Markham Waxres) and from 8 years old on was the next great one. Had amazing hands and shot at every step of his carear. He always was the best at every tournament all over N America. Him and Jordan Eberle, Team Canada and now with Edmonton used to play on a line together as 10-12 year olds and used to light it up. Never lost a game for about 3 or 4 summers.
Him working on his hands would be like Secratariat at 3 saying he had to work on his finish before the Belmont.
They had a interview with stamkos who mentioned that earlier in his career that he didn't have good hands or a good shot. In addition to his practice and games, he would shoot 500-600 pucks off synthetic material each day. I have also come across some of his stick handling drills on youtube and they are pretty nuts too. In addition to insane genetics comes freakish dedication and work ethic ; something I don't think many fanbases can understand.
again, not knocking on Moses, but just found it interesting that other players have these problems and put in serious dedication to solve them. To be clear, I respect anyone who can lace em up for a D1 squad. The term 'no hands' is relative, and I would kill to be a crappy player on the club.
also to be clear, I think UNH is playing a very complete team game this year. This is much more important than a few extra goals potted by an individual. I hope they can keep this up
Stamkos was being very, very modest. At 10 he broke all of Gretzkys records in Toronto(played for Markham Waxres) and from 8 years old on was the next great one. Had amazing hands and shot at every step of his carear. He always was the best at every tournament all over N America. Him and Jordan Eberle, Team Canada and now with Edmonton used to play on a line together as 10-12 year olds and used to light it up. Never lost a game for about 3 or 4 summers.
Him working on his hands would be like Secratariat at 3 saying he had to work on his finish before the Belmont.
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I thought unh_hockey and i'zonprizes' assessment of Stevie Moses had merit. Have you seen him enough this year to comment?Stamkos was being very, very modest. Had amazing hands and shot at every step of his career.
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His game is speed. Always had very good hands, susprised that is an issue. He will be fine.
Henrion is the one who will get better each eyar and could have B Butler type numbers his sr year
I thought unh_hockey and i'zonprizes' assessment of Stevie Moses had merit. Have you seen him enough this year to comment?
His game is speed. Always had very good hands, susprised that is an issue. He will be fine.
Henrion is the one who will get better each eyar and could have B Butler type numbers his sr year
hockeyeast98
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Paul Thompson 5 minute major interview. Pretty interesting stuff, speaks about his linemates, teammates and where he came from.
http://www.hockeyeastonline.com/men/media/5mm.php
Paul Thompson 5 minute major interview. Pretty interesting stuff, speaks about his linemates, teammates and where he came from.
http://www.hockeyeastonline.com/men/media/5mm.php
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In the weekly press conference, Coach Borek provided his appraisal of this year's group of forwards as well as insight into the rationale for juggling (or keeping in tact) the forward lines.
In the weekly press conference, Coach Borek provided his appraisal of this year's group of forwards as well as insight into the rationale for juggling (or keeping in tact) the forward lines.
"One thing we're really pleased with from a forward perspective is the depth at forward," UNH associate head coach Scott Borek said Wednesday. "This is my ninth year here, and we've had some very good teams, but I think this is the deepest we've been up front. I think we can score on all four lines." (from fosters.com)
"One of the things you find out early in the year is who can be successful with who," Borek said. "It's unusual to have the lines set as quickly as we did and then to have them set themselves long term. I think (changing the lines) was as much about February and March as it was about December. You just don't want guys getting into a groove, because that groove can go both ways, too early in the season."
RockTheWhit
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Interesting quote from Borek talking about the depth at forward while the team has zero fourth line goals this year.
Interesting quote from Borek talking about the depth at forward while the team has zero fourth line goals this year.
unhpuckfan2001
Local Fire Extinguisher
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My take on a fourth line has always been that goals are sort of a bonus. If you can roll a fourth line out there, especially at this still relatively early part of the season, and have them play at a level that makes them NOT a liability - as in, not running around with a -15 for the line - then you're in pretty good shape. Hopefully, as the line plays together more, they'll start to produce. As they get used to the speed of the game, and playing with each other, they'll put the puck in the net. Having that fourth line that you can trust to not screw up royally means your three 'scoring' lines get a break in the games. Would fresher lines have made a difference against UVM last March, when we didn't see the fourth line the last 10 minutes of the third, or in OT? Makes me wonder . . .
Borek said he 'thinks we can score on all four lines' - hopefully, the fourth line can prove him right . . . because they haven't yet.
Interesting quote from Borek talking about the depth at forward while the team has zero fourth line goals this year.
My take on a fourth line has always been that goals are sort of a bonus. If you can roll a fourth line out there, especially at this still relatively early part of the season, and have them play at a level that makes them NOT a liability - as in, not running around with a -15 for the line - then you're in pretty good shape. Hopefully, as the line plays together more, they'll start to produce. As they get used to the speed of the game, and playing with each other, they'll put the puck in the net. Having that fourth line that you can trust to not screw up royally means your three 'scoring' lines get a break in the games. Would fresher lines have made a difference against UVM last March, when we didn't see the fourth line the last 10 minutes of the third, or in OT? Makes me wonder . . .
Borek said he 'thinks we can score on all four lines' - hopefully, the fourth line can prove him right . . . because they haven't yet.
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Kevin Goumas +1 / 18 SOG
Jeff Silengo -1 / 9 SOG
Kevin McCarey +0 / 11 SOG
My take on a fourth line has always been that goals are sort of a bonus. If you can roll a fourth line out there, especially at this still relatively early part of the season, and have them play at a level that makes them NOT a liability - as in, not running around with a -15 for the line - then you're in pretty good shape.
Kevin Goumas +1 / 18 SOG
Jeff Silengo -1 / 9 SOG
Kevin McCarey +0 / 11 SOG
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