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Good for him to be promoted from the minors to play Div. I. Go Eagles!
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UNH 2025 Offseason: Where in the World is MS7?
- Thread starter TheGrouchyCat
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Good for him to be promoted from the minors to play Div. I. Go Eagles!
That’s what a source means idiot.
Norbert: LOL, you've got zero sources, bird brain. Zippo. BC rumors is all you "reported". That's been out there for days. I've got more sources at the Kremlin than you do in the college hockey world.
Sparkee
Blackbear
Norbert. He didn’t like that he was not physical or gritty. Pretty much everyone else liked Conmy.
Now, with Chuck you can’t count his vote because he says so much, pages worth every time. First he’ll say Conmy underperformed. Then the next day Chuck blabbers on pages worth that he over performs. He likes to cover all scenarios so he is never wrong in his mind. Meanwhile he is usually wrong to any normal observer. After reading pages worth of bullshit he might have one good sentence.
HockeyRef
Well-known member
Beat me to it...Best wishes to him...
HockeyRef
Well-known member
Like I said before...a massive loss for UNH...sighhhh
Chuck Murray
WIS & Effingwoods Hockey Almanac
Apologies Snives if my commentary was not crystal clear, but my comments regarding the limited NHL prospects for late round draft picks was directed mostly at the way things stand at present, and in the last decade or so of NCAA-to-NHL progressions. But I think your listing of (especially) the older late round picks from the Holt/Umile Eras allows us to also show that late UNH picks during those olden days still had a shot at making it, and the current late UNH picks are not faring as well. Coach Holt had an exceptional reputation as a teacher, and Coach Umile's players would also progress during their time on campus, if not quite with the same frequency as Coach Holt's players. Further grist for the "MS7 isn't developing his players during their time under his oversight".
Let me go through some of the late rounders you've cited to make my point (rarity of NHL "hits") and the secondary point that Holt/Umile knew how to teach:
Bobby Gould (7) - this will start to sound repetitive, but Bob (#17 scoring at 17:17 of the 3rd period in the '79 ECAC title game) was the best player by far in his draft year round, which included 1980 Olympians Bob Suter and Ralph Cox. His #118 draft slot today would be a late 4th rounder; best non-G #118 pick ever.
NHL Players selected at the 118th draft position at hockeydb.com
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1977 NHL Amateur Draft Picks at hockeydb.com
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Jamie Hislop (8) - the 140th pick in his NHL Draft year, second highest goal scorer of all #140 picks ever (and #1 if his WHA goals are counted). #140 would be a fifth round pick these days. Only guy with more top tier pro games was PHI enforcer Dave Brown. 'Slop would have played longer but for an eye injury.
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1974 NHL Amateur Draft Picks at hockeydb.com
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Daniel Winnik (9) - best player ever drafted at the #265 slot in NHL history, and one of three (3) players in his draft round to qualify for full NHLPA pension. Also falling in that round 21 years ago was a certain Craig Switzer, who landed in the Coast with 3 games in the AHL for likely injury call-ups ...
NHL Players selected at the 265th draft position at hockeydb.com
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2004 NHL Entry Draft Picks at hockeydb.com
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Sean Collins (9) - no player has ever been drafted at #289 and ever played a single game in the NHL. Collins' career arc not at all unlike that of Craig Switzer (above). Michael Hutchins and Ned Havern (BC) were others picked in the same round who didn't Show. Only Jonathan Ericsson (DRW) was pension eligible.
NHL Players selected at the 289th draft position at hockeydb.com
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2002 NHL Entry Draft Picks at hockeydb.com
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Bruce Crowder (9) - his draft slot (#153) would be a 5th rounder in the present-day NHL Draft. By far the most successful of players drafted in his draft year, same round. Second-best player ever drafted at #153 behind another familiar name for locals, Craig MacTavish. Left a flagging NHL career to coach at UMO.
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Andy Brickley (10) - his draft slot of #210 would be a 7th rounder in the present-day NHL Draft. Literally the last player drafted in his draft class, and was also the most successful player taken in his round. "Only" the 3rd best player taken at #210, behind two stiffs named Dave Taylor and Henrik Zetterberg.
NHL Players selected at the 210th draft position at hockeydb.com
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1980 NHL Entry Draft Picks at hockeydb.com
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Dave Lumley (12) - his draft slot of #199 would be a 7th rounder today. The best (and only) player from his draft year's round to make it to the WHA and the NHL, won two Cup rings while at EDM. "Only" the 3rd best player taken at #199, not far off Willie Mitchell, but eons removed from Dominik Hasek
NHL Players selected at the 199th draft position at hockeydb.com
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Players like these no longer frequent UNH line-ups during the Souza Era. Angus Crookshank (5th round pick 2018) has scored 2 goals in 20 NHL games, and will be 26 at the start of next season. He is your high water mark of post-Umile excellence. Shane Eiserman (4th/2014), Marcus Vela (7th/2015), Max Gildon (3rd/2017), Benton Maass (6th/2017), Mike Robinson (3rd/2015), Filip Engaras (6th/2020), Luke Reid (6th/2020), and Harrison Blaisdell (5th round/2019) are most but not all of the total draftees over the last 10 seasons who have (at least to date) come up short of The Show.
So kudos to Snives for making a case that late round picks playing at UNH haven't always regularly fallen short of the NHL. But they do now. And now counts.
Chuck Murray
WIS & Effingwoods Hockey Almanac
Chuck rites too mush, it maykz me hedd sor. He gots ta dumm tings doun fur me cuz I can’t kepe too thotz in ma hed at da same tiem. I kant beleve deez UNH peepol kin figger owt wot heez sayin. Sew I jest gess at wot heze sayin and make da rest up, and den aye yell reel lowd wen he callz me on bean a stoopid lieing idjjit, it's jest to confuezen ...
Fixed your post, sport ...
Sparkee
Blackbear
UNH is featured in this episode of Journey North. https://youtu.be/sa4wYOBkggw?feature=shared
I’m sure you will find it a great watch.
JB
Desk Chair Coach
Well getting players in the transfer portal typically means actually talking to them. Since I now under the impression the head coach is a selective mute, it makes it hard.
2013hockeyfan
Active member
He has a “major attitude problem” per TheGrouchyCat’s sources and he has “only three moves that were figured out” after his freshman season per TheGrouchyCat himself
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Excellent summary, Chuck, and I so miss those mid- to late-1970’s teams, even if I was mostly following from afar, except when I was home for a month in December/January.
Here are some other bits of UNH alum trivia from this season:
JvR leapfrogged Rod Langway into first place in NHL/WHA games played, Brett Pesce leapfrogged Bob Gould into fifth place for NHL games played, Warren Foegele leapfrogged Dave Lumley and Jay Miller into ninth place, and Casey DeSmith leapfrogged Eric Boguniecki into 24th place.
Foegele should leapfrog Hislop for eighth place next mid-season, TvR should leapfrog Bob Gould early next season, and both Pesce and TvR should around next mid-season leapfrog Steve Leach who is fourth in games played. So, we have some UNH alums from the first 15 years of the millennium making strides in the NHL, but now we have no one from the last 10 years in the NHL pipeline, as you note.
Glad you know so much. Hopefully you visit the Kremlin and they keep you. Maybe once you come out from behind the keyboard we can have a real conversation, but until then you can name call like the 3rd grader you are.
there are 2 things that please me about the Conmy transfer. First, his skills will be used for many victories at BC. Good for him. Second, your ignorance of hockey will be proven once and for all.
I can already predict that you will look at the stat sheet and be wowed. Well, when you play on well coached team that has half a roster of draft picks, one would hope he has a better year. Plus he will be able to hide. Or maybe he will be better because of facilities. Or is it the NIL money he is getting?
Robert Balin
Active member
** Rumor per Mark Diver is the two RIT transfers will go to the same HE school. I hope that is UNH.
As of this morning Wilde from RIT is UMASS bound according to Heisenburg, Haven't seen the other kid yet but maybe that's coming today.
As of this morning Wilde from RIT is UMASS bound according to Heisenburg, Haven't seen the other kid yet but maybe that's coming today.
TheGrouchyCat
Litter Box of Bad Ideas
I said all of this and stand by it.
I've witnessed issues with attitude off ice first hand. Other STHs have seen it and commented on this as well.
He is a skilled player and he will be a loss to UNH but he isn't the second coming of a Will Smith, Cellebrini or a Leonard.
Do I expect his game to improve at BC...absolutely. Having access to good coaching and a supporting cast will undoubtedly go a long way for him to increase his stats and visibility. This assumes, of course, he abandons his coast to coast forays trying to win games single handedly.
TheGrouchyCat
Litter Box of Bad Ideas
Crockpot...
You could be recruited by BC to ride the pine as a 60 yr old transfer who can only skate with double runners, leveraging your God given skills to chirp the opposition and still win 25 games. Of course, you'll be rendered academically ineligible within a month for failing your remedial coloring class.
Robert Balin
Active member
Good one. The key is to color within the lines..