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UNH 2024/2025 Goldberg Edition

Potluck said:
Indeed Grouchy. JB a/k/a Elwood and Chuck Murray a/k/a Buford reckon they shouldn’t be paying no taxes at all. Lower taxes, more moonshine for them. If the good lord thought taxes were fair, the good lord would be collecting them.

They reckon that anybody making lots of money can just donate the money to build State owned buildings. So they reckon that anyone with the wherewithal and savvy to come up from Massachusetts and buy and develop private property can just pony on up to pay for their hockey team.

Just the thought of NH taxpayers paying for state owned buildings and public education just gets them in one of those lathers grandma warned ‘em about.
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Potluck you seem to be both a dumbass and a jackass.

I have noted multiple, read that again multiple, times that I am not telling you what I think is right or wrong for funding, just what is by observation.
  • Many buildings at public universities, particularly for athletics, are built with and renovated with private donations. This is not always ALL private, many times it is and many times it is majority private funding. That is not just a New Hampshire thing, we have discussed Maine, Mass, Connecticut, Pennsylvania and North Dakota. About different construction and renovation projects many fully funded by philanthropy (this big word means private gifts)
  • The New Hampshire legislature gives very little money to the University and the annual funding is for academics only, New Hampshire is 50th in state funding to colleges. Again I am not saying this is right, just fact. Side note: Sununu couldn't just give money to the University, he proposed $8M and had to fight to get the $6M he got from the legislature.
Again, I am not telling you what I think is right or wrong just what is by observation.

The only place I have been firm in what I think is right, and I will be really clear. Souza needs to go, his failure of leadership is the #1 problem with the hockey program.

Next, go find UNH's "Ben Barr" who comes in at a lower salary ($240k range) to prove himself, rebuild a program and then be prepared to make that coach the highest paid state employee (again, as Umile was) in the future when he is successful.
 
JB said:
Souza needs to go, his failure of leadership is the #1 problem with the hockey program.
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My God, it's been 10 years. Most new coaches receive a five year contract to show the Uni commitment to the new job. And all of that (calling it only five years) ignores the first three years in which a disinterested Umile handed him the keys to run the shop:
“Coach Umile and I spoke about how this next season will be spent continuing the effort to re-build UNH hockey into a national caliber program that competes in the NCAA tournament and the Frozen Four,” UNH Athletic Director Marty Scarano said in a press release.

“That has been, and always will be, our aspiration,” he added. “We are fortunate to have Mike Souza here changing the culture in recruiting and gaining more invaluable experience to become the 14th head coach of UNH hockey at the completion of the 2017-18 season.”

Umile and the university agreed to a three-year contract extension in 2015, shortly after Souza was added to the coaching staff as the heir apparent.
“We look forward to the challenge of reaching NCAAs next year and our focus is on having the program in great shape when Mike Souza takes over as head coach,” Umile said.

“I am confident next season will be one in which we build from within, make inroads in recruiting and continue to bolster an exciting future,” Scarano said.
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This is worse - despite having no success in those five years, he received two separate three-year extensions! Name ANY hockey coach who has had 10 years of failure and was not replaced. Bob Daniels at Ferris State. Anyone else? it's shameful for UNH's "commitment" to excellence. Just move to the Atlantic Hockey League to replace AIC, already. That's more their speed.
 
Honestly, he's been a college coach for 14 years, and the debate is whether his best accomplishment was a 6th place Hockey East finish (top half of the bottom half), or his 3rd place AHA finish as an assistant at U.Conn.
 
NCAA watcher said:
My God, it's been 10 years. Most new coaches receive a five year contract to show the Uni commitment to the new job. And all of that (calling it only five years) ignores the first three years in which a disinterested Umile handed him the keys to run the shop:


This is worse - despite having no success in those five years, he received two separate three-year extensions! Name ANY hockey coach who has had 10 years of failure and was not replaced. Bob Daniels at Ferris State. Anyone else? it's shameful for UNH's "commitment" to excellence. Just move to the Atlantic Hockey League to replace AIC, already. That's more their speed.
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I can think of several with Souzaesque records in Atlantic Hockey, like Ryan Soderquist’s 21 seasons (02/03-22/23) at Bentley (16 L, 1 0.500, 4 W), Brian Riley’s 21 seasons (04/05-24/25) at Army (15 L, 1 0.500, 5 W), Dave Smith’s 12 seasons (05/06-16/17) at Canisius (8 L, 1 0.500, 3 W), Trevor Large’s 8 seasons (17/18-24/25) at Canisius (5 L, 1 0.500, 2 W), Derek Schooley’s 19 seasons (04/05-20/21, 23/24-24/25) at Robert Morris (10 L, 2 0.500, 7 W, but 5 L in last 6 seasons), and Rick Gotkin’s 27 seasons (88/89-24/25) at Niagara (L in last 7 seasons and 8 of last 10 seasons, although he beat UNH in the NCAA regionals way back). But, I still would not prefer that UNH joins Atlantic Hockey.
 
2013hockeyfan said:
Lavins style much better suited as a 3rd/4th line fit. He is not much of a scorer / playmaker and produced very little when elevated late in the season. In any other program he lives on the lower two lines, as his numbers suggest. My putting him on the 4th line is not a knock on him.
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Lavins is a beast and the physical player this team needs. He needs a line and time not bounced around the line up. He is someone I would like to see with Cy but one then has to play wing. He will find context unlike others.
 
2013hockeyfan said:
I have spoken with many former and current pro players, coaches, scouts, and front office personnel who have said "Marty is a great third or fourth line type player. Great job with your projected lines for next season. It isn't too early to create those projections, either. Love your posts in the forum."
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Suspect at best. Maybe 3rd 4th on your pro friends team but he’s 1A on this team.
 
Potluck said:
Let me put it in terms even you can understand, Buford. Remember what your mama said to you when you told her you were engaged to your second cousin?

"Oh, Buford, just 'cause it ain't illegal don't make it right." But then again, you stood your ground and married her anyways, so maybe you didn't get it. Hell, you weren't gonna just sit by and watch somebody else marry your cousin. She was a real looker. Damn straight!

Kinda the same with what was done to Morin, but enough of those silly things like morals.

BTW, I just knew you used Wikipedia as your primary source for research. Hey, what could go wrong? It's free!!!!! How Fox News of you! Do you read coloring books for art education?
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Too funny ... Mike gets exposed for being the elitist "I know better than the librarian what to do with his money" snob, when the actual legal intentions and obligations of the parties are laid out for him, in black and white. NOTHING "was done to Morin", it is clear he had specific ideas on what to do with his gift, and who was going to make those decisions. That you still cannot fathom this, also exposes you as a preachy moralist, ignorant of basic legal tenets.

Leaving you with no escape route except "But ... Wikipedia!!" LOL. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: Yes, I'm laughing at you, not with you.

You will note the Wikipedia entry has these things called footnotes, Mike. Items that demonstrate reference points for the material published in the entry. Footnotes on this Wikipedia entry come from a wide range of sources, all across the political spectrum, from NPR and the Washington Post to the Concord Monitor and the NH Union-Leader, with a strong dash of academia journal sources added for good measure.

So when faced with the facts, and that you are totally wrong (and out of touch, too), your response is basically no response. Impressive. :rolleyes:

Just for $h!t$ and giggles ... I spent the day yesterday at my day job, which involved a private civil mediation session, the details of which I am not at liberty to discuss here, or anywhere else. But you do get to meet some very interesting people, and yesterday we had a group of one retired judge, and a half-dozen attorneys representing various clients. Mediations often involve lots of downtime, where parties/judges have to wait for the outcome of private discussions they can't be part of. I used my time to bounce the "Morin case" off of them, giving them the same source materials I've used, and I'd shared with you last post. To a man (well, including the two women attorneys), they pointed to the fact Morin specifically earmarked a specific amount for the library, and had the option to gift more OR gift it all, but clearly didn't. One person thought the U should have come up with a $100,000 "matching gift" to solve the optics issue (so, $200K total for the library), but admitted there was zero legal obligation for them to do so. NONE of them felt Mr. Morin was aggrieved or "victimized".

Gotta hurt, having your lunch handed to you by a backwoods, in-breeding, coloring book reading "Buford" in front of the UNH galaxy, Mike.

Why don't you just crawl on back in shame to wherever you came from?
 
NCAA watcher said:
Let's hope he believes that. I hate that UNH is holding him back from earning what he can elsewhere. Perhaps he can pay them to let him out of his obligations.:
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That's usually what happens in the real world, when someone is being deprived of a better opportunity, due to the existence of a prior contract.
 
Sparkee said:
Let’s face it Cavanaugh is a great coach and was rewarded for it based on what he earned.

Chuck did not do even the slightest of a good job convincing anyone Luce is a “scumbag” as Chuck says. All Chuck did is embarrass himself with his best impression of a catty highschool rumor-monger cheerleader with his “Luce is a vile person and did bad things. But I swore I wouldn’t tell what those bad things are. You have to trust me. And I can’t tell you who told me this because I promised them I wouldn’t. Again, you will have to trust me. But what a loser Luce is, huh?”.

Coach Cavanaugh achieved a lot more than jealous Chuck, that’s for sure.
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There's nothing great about Luce's tenure at UConn. No league titles (RS or tourney) in over a decade, and what - 2 or 3 winning seasons overall? Marginally better than MS7 at this time, probably comparable to the late (also not great) Coach Gendron. BTW, how is it that Coach Barr was overlooked for HEA COTY??

If I'm going to be "jealous" of someone, please let it be someone who's actually won or achieved something. That makes sense, right?!?

Maybe he wins the HEA title this weekend over you guys? I'm sure you'd love that. And they're virtually in the NCAA's, so no telling again, right?!?

If he wins anything, I'll congratulate him for that achievement(s). If/when he loses, I won't be surprised. How 'bout you??

I have no reason to "convince" anyone of Luce's character, everyone else can come to their own conclusions ... but when one has information by way of any confidentiality, those are obligations of trust that cannot be breached. And when that information comes from sources who have a demonstrable record of accuracy with other sourced info, that gives them credibility ... to me. These are principles, and none of your stupidity is going to change that. Sorry skippy!
 
Chuck Murray said:
That's usually what happens in the real world, when someone is being deprived of a better opportunity, due to the existence of a prior contract.
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Souza is coaching at his alma mater where he would likely get more leeway. Why would he voluntarily go somewhere else? Where would he go for a better opportunity?

You are stuck with him until the AD decides to fire him and buy him out.
 
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