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UNH 2024/2025 Goldberg Edition

Well all of this talk is interesting but does anyone really think UNH will buy out his contract? Not when people are still showing up at games...including loyal fans like me. And yes there are a ton of people who have walked away and I respect that choice fwiw dept.
"Will they?" or "Should they?" If anyone in the Athletics office is paying attention, the answer to both should be "yes". $240K is a drop in the bucket, and if it's negotiated appropriately, the amount could/should be less than that - about half, actually. But when the answer to "will they?" is NO, because no one is really paying attention, then it only reinforces the info I've received from multiple sources that no one where it matters either knows OR cares about UNH Hockey.

So to answer your question, 'Ref ... no, I do not think anything will happen this Spring with MS7's contract. And more folks will lose interest, and when next season continues the downwards trend, even more folks will lose interest. Maybe even me? I only have so much time left to waste on things I care more about, than the folks who are in charge of these things care about it.

These are the times that try men's souls ... Thomas Paine (1776)
 
"Will they?" or "Should they?" If anyone in the Athletics office is paying attention, the answer to both should be "yes". $240K is a drop in the bucket, and if it's negotiated appropriately, the amount could/should be less than that - about half, actually. But when the answer to "will they?" is NO, because no one is really paying attention, then it only reinforces the info I've received from multiple sources that no one where it matters either knows OR cares about UNH Hockey.

So to answer your question, 'Ref ... no, I do not think anything will happen this Spring with MS7's contract. And more folks will lose interest, and when next season continues the downwards trend, even more folks will lose interest. Maybe even me? I only have so much time left to waste on things I care more about, than the folks who are in charge of these things care about it.

These are the times that try men's souls ... Thomas Paine (1776)
Hear ya esp your last sentence...To show just how 'some' see UNH hockey I was telling someone we've been following the team for awhile and they said 'UNH hockey is still a thing'? Sad...
 
So to answer your question, 'Ref ... no, I do not think anything will happen this Spring with MS7's contract. And more folks will lose interest, and when next season continues the downwards trend, even more folks will lose interest. Maybe even me? I only have so much time left to waste on things I care more about, than the folks who are in charge of these things care about it.

There was a time almost nothing came before a UNH hockey game. As soon as the schedule came out those were announced NO FLY ZONES to my wife on the calendar. She used to complain when I would say, "nope, I am going to a hockey game".

Bad weather, no such thing. I have seen great games, with NCAA bound UNH teams in a near empty Whitt because the weather was that bad. If they played my butt was in the building. Even with season ticket multiple away games each year.

Now, meh, I have something else to do... skipping the game. Somehow I still have season tickets, I question my sanity each year.

That a fan like me is on the edge should be seen as a BIG problem.

Yup 4500-5200 fans per game announced. Wonder if we can Freedom of Information the actual gate revenue to see the average ticket price. How many free tickets per game?
 
Hear ya esp your last sentence...To show just how 'some' see UNH hockey I was telling someone we've been following the team for awhile and they said 'UNH hockey is still a thing'? Sad...
One of my neighbors has six season tickets right near where you sit and haven't been able to give away those tickets away for those games they can't attend.
 
There was a time almost nothing came before a UNH hockey game. As soon as the schedule came out those were announced NO FLY ZONES to my wife on the calendar. She used to complain when I would say, "nope, I am going to a hockey game".

Bad weather, no such thing. I have seen great games, with NCAA bound UNH teams in a near empty Whitt because the weather was that bad. If they played my butt was in the building. Even with season ticket multiple away games each year.

Now, meh, I have something else to do... skipping the game. Somehow I still have season tickets, I question my sanity each year.

That a fan like me is on the edge should be seen as a BIG problem.

Yup 4500-5200 fans per game announced. Wonder if we can Freedom of Information the actual gate revenue to see the average ticket price. How many free tickets per game?
What was concerning earlier in the season was when we received the email from UNH about the Military Heroes or Teachers night...asking STH to purchase additional tickets to donate to other fans. Such an obvious grift to boost revenue and inflate attendance numbers.

The outbound calling to renew season tickets, while good business and well intentioned, reeks of panic after a reversion to the sub .500 mean. Despite the appearance that the school and AD have their heads in the sand, the school HAS to be seeing the negative sentiment from fans. Even the Facebook page is becoming a public forum to air grievances. It's impossible to ignore.
 
What was concerning earlier in the season was when we received the email from UNH about the Military Heroes or Teachers night...asking STH to purchase additional tickets to donate to other fans. Such an obvious grift to boost revenue and inflate attendance numbers.

The outbound calling to renew season tickets, while good business and well intentioned, reeks of panic after a reversion to the sub .500 mean. Despite the appearance that the school and AD have their heads in the sand, the school HAS to be seeing the negative sentiment from fans. Even the Facebook page is becoming a public forum to air grievances. It's impossible to ignore.
Oh they know...why would there be a need for a "Hater" tee shirt? 🤣🤣🤣
 
In private industry ignoring the big problem and firing one person without addressing the larger problem is seen as scapegoating or deflecting. Firing Souza is simple. It gives cover to the AD.

Serious question do you have any idea about investing in private industry?

If it is a start-up it is all about the team, the leadership. Get that right you can get money. In big business it is all about the leadership team, particularly the CEO and CFO selling to investors and the investors belief in that leadership. Inside the big business, if you are running a failing business unit or factory. More often than not it is a change in leadership before the investment. People invest in leadership, in vision. Not in victims, whining, complaining, hiding away.

I am not saying the Whitt doesn't need renovations. I am saying that the, largest problem is the coaches leadership, vision, communication. So yes, I think you address the biggest problem first, the lack of a leader.

I see the Coach as a the GM/CEO of the hockey team. AD is the CEO/Chairman of the Board. For the CEO to be hiding from his customers and investors is dereliction of duty. Part of that coaching job is to get out in the community and build that support. If you just want to coach hockey 9-5 it is not at the college level.

Hockey Budget (OPEX) UMaine- $2.18M, UNH - $2.43M. There is money. You need the CAPEX, go start winning, driving that excitement, it will be far, far easier to get those donations.

So UNH needs to go find a charismatic hockey coach that gets "IT" the big picture. It is probably somebody unproven as head coach, an assistant coach that is willing to prove it. Frankly you want and need a guy with that moxie. That drive to work 60+ hours of week for 5 years, with high energy. A desire to win so badly he pushes on all the boundaries to get what is needed to win.
 
Serious question do you have any idea about investing in private industry?

If it is a start-up it is all about the team, the leadership. Get that right you can get money. In big business it is all about the leadership team, particularly the CEO and CFO selling to investors and the investors belief in that leadership. Inside the big business, if you are running a failing business unit or factory. More often than not it is a change in leadership before the investment. People invest in leadership, in vision. Not in victims, whining, complaining, hiding away.

I am not saying the Whitt doesn't need renovations. I am saying that the, largest problem is the coaches leadership, vision, communication. So yes, I think you address the biggest problem first, the lack of a leader.

I see the Coach as a the GM/CEO of the hockey team. AD is the CEO/Chairman of the Board. For the CEO to be hiding from his customers and investors is dereliction of duty. Part of that coaching job is to get out in the community and build that support. If you just want to coach hockey 9-5 it is not at the college level.

Hockey Budget (OPEX) UMaine- $2.18M, UNH - $2.43M. There is money. You need the CAPEX, go start winning, driving that excitement, it will be far, far easier to get those donations.

So UNH needs to go find a charismatic hockey coach that gets "IT" the big picture. It is probably somebody unproven as head coach, an assistant coach that is willing to prove it. Frankly you want and need a guy with that moxie. That drive to work 60+ hours of week for 5 years, with high energy. A desire to win so badly he pushes on all the boundaries to get what is needed to win.
You nailed it JB.

In hundreds of meetings with investors, Private Equity, Venture Capital, Family Offices and even Sovereign Wealth Funds, the greatest predictor of a company securing money is the ability to showcase leadership, articulate a vision and to demonstrate the actionable steps to achieve the desired outcome.

This begins and ends with the selection of a leader and his/her ability to sell the vision through clear, precise communication to many different stakeholders who may or may not even care. The secret for any leader is to get those people who don't care to care. This takes time, visibility and familiarity. Souza has had more than enough time but still has virtually zero visibility to the fans or community at large and only surrounds himself with those existing in the echo chamber of UNH propaganda.
 
........ the so-called "Robert Morin scandal" is only in your fertile imagination. For someone who claims to have elite level knowledge of "investing and capital improvements", that you cannot tell the difference between an earmarked donation and general donation is rather telling. If Morin the Librarian wanted his estate donation to go to a specific cause, the U would have been bound to honor that. In this instance, the donation was NOT earmarked, designated, etc. Folks like you who enjoy the social engineering racket can spout off about what you think was the "right" way to allocate the donation, but if it came without strings attached, the U could use it however they wished. Which they did. I know, not very "Commonwealth" of them, and sure, the optics may have been awkward once publicized (hence the "late in life football fan" cover story), but UNH did nothing wrong at all, and I'm sure this so-called "scandal" brings no baggage, since unlike you, big-time donors (see Whittemore, Towse, Paul, TDL, etc.) know they can allocate gifts......

It is clear you hold not only UNH in contempt, but the entire State of NH, its residents, and our way of life in contempt. Why do you bother posting here, while pretending to have any degree of worthwhile insight or life experience ... when every time you try, you manage to step in it big time?

"our way of life". That's just a weird phrase. You should change your name to Buford and spend more time trying to scrape the plaque off your tooth. Goodness, you are the reason why so little gets accomplished in NH.

I attended UNH and liked it. I love the hockey program. The players were good guys and Kullen and Umile were top shelf guys when I was there. However, I always resented the nonsensical logic the "frugal" (i.e. unsophisticaed and unevolved) NH residents used to justify underfunding a college that was better than UMass in the 80s and now is morphing into a pretty lousy state school. UNH was the number two state school in New England in the 80s - behind only Vermont. Now its at the bottom.

It's depressing to walk into the Dimond Library, which was out dated in the early 90s, and see that it hasn't improved. You learn a lot about what a college thinks of itself when you simply tour the library. The Dimond is a dump. Every single penny of Morin's $4 million, which he accumulated by working decades in the library, should have been used for renovations. But people like you scoffed at his lifetime of hard work and threw it away on a dumb scoreboard. Is that what you mean by "our way of life"? And you have the temerity to blame Morin for not properly designating his gift. You also propose that Souza or the next hockey coach should go on a search for Lemmings mission to find more private money donors? Clearly, you have never raised money for anything in your life, Chuck. First rule of development? Assume the prospective donors are intelligent and truly want to help if told how to do so.

It's even more depressing to listen to the conman mentality you preach when discussing Morin's $4 million gift. You blame him for trusting UNH with his life savings. How very Eric Stratton of you - "face it, you (bleeped) up. you trusted us"

BTW, not that you have the capacity to understand this, but the reason so many great hockey players came out of Massachusetts for decades was the MDC (i.e. public) rinks that allowed lower middle and middle class kids from urban and working class suburban neighborhoods to play hockey for small money. Plenty of the well off kids learned to skate at those rinks and played their games through high school at state owned and operated facilities. Why? Because the state required them to be open to everyone.

From a UNH perspective, that's Cap Raeder, Umile, jeff Lazaro, the Brickleys, Souza, Regan, Pollastrone, the Cox brothers, Rod Langway, Sean Collins, Saviano, Joe Flanagan and many, many more. How's that for social engineering! I'd imagine it was similar in Toronto and Montreal (according to Jim Montgomery, it was) with their approach to hockey. After all Canada is socialist, right Chuck? And let's not get started on Minnesota and it's approach to having the taxpayers fund hockey rinks. Oh course, NH has ummm let's call it a modest history of developing hockey players. Wonder why......

I'm not the least bit surprised that a flat earther like you, Chuck, has literally spent 5 decades watching college hockey without a clue as to who the players really are and how they got so good at hockey.
 
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Serious question do you have any idea about investing in private industry?

If it is a start-up it is all about the team, the leadership. Get that right you can get money. In big business it is all about the leadership team, particularly the CEO and CFO selling to investors and the investors belief in that leadership. Inside the big business, if you are running a failing business unit or factory. More often than not it is a change in leadership before the investment. People invest in leadership, in vision. Not in victims, whining, complaining, hiding away.

I am not saying the Whitt doesn't need renovations. I am saying that the, largest problem is the coaches leadership, vision, communication. So yes, I think you address the biggest problem first, the lack of a leader.

I see the Coach as a the GM/CEO of the hockey team. AD is the CEO/Chairman of the Board. For the CEO to be hiding from his customers and investors is dereliction of duty. Part of that coaching job is to get out in the community and build that support. If you just want to coach hockey 9-5 it is not at the college level.

Hockey Budget (OPEX) UMaine- $2.18M, UNH - $2.43M. There is money. You need the CAPEX, go start winning, driving that excitement, it will be far, far easier to get those donations.

So UNH needs to go find a charismatic hockey coach that gets "IT" the big picture. It is probably somebody unproven as head coach, an assistant coach that is willing to prove it. Frankly you want and need a guy with that moxie. That drive to work 60+ hours of week for 5 years, with high energy. A desire to win so badly he pushes on all the boundaries to get what is needed to win.
Appreciate the post, JB. Yes, I do. The problem here is that with State schools you are dealing with politicians or those whose understanding of politics got them a leadership post the the University. They are not profit, or even, efficiency driven people. There's no profit motive. Their motive is staying out of trouble, getting re-elected or renewed and accumulating more power for perks and respect. They can dealmake over legislation and appropriations. A private college is a bit more nuanced due to the absolute essential primary focus being on fund raising for survival. Large state schools really don't have to worry about survival.

Its hard to overstate how small minded politicians are. A well paid and connected lobbyist can accomplish a great deal over a dinner with some deal making over legislation. Getting money out of politicians is its own massive industry. Much of it has little to do with taxpayers and everything to do with lobbyists and well connected special interest groups.
 
It's depressing to walk into the Dimond Library, which was out dated in the early 90s, and see that it hasn't improved.

Do you know that the Dimond Library was renovated in 1997 - public-private funded renovation. It is potentially due to be upgraded again, but "books" are less used these days. So TBD.

Also you keep chirping about an 88% acceptance rate at UNH. Do you realize that college enrollment all over is down significantly? Most Universities depend on tuition as a significant source of funding, it is more important for UNH because of the light state funding. If applications are down overall than you need to admit a higher percent, or significantly "right size". Just grabbing UVM since you mentioned them, enrollment is down 16% over the last 10 years (source Google AI, I didn't look deeper). If I had to guess it was happening pre-covid and really accelerated after covid. It is a common them across State schools, UMA down 14% 2010-2020 (source Google AI, I didn't look deeper).
 
Do you know that the Dimond Library was renovated in 1997 - public-private funded renovation. It is potentially due to be upgraded again, but "books" are less used these days. So TBD.

Also you keep chirping about an 88% acceptance rate at UNH. Do you realize that college enrollment all over is down significantly? Most Universities depend on tuition as a significant source of funding, it is more important for UNH because of the light state funding. If applications are down overall than you need to admit a higher percent, or significantly "right size". Just grabbing UVM since you mentioned them, enrollment is down 16% over the last 10 years (source Google AI, I didn't look deeper). If I had to guess it was happening pre-covid and really accelerated after covid. It is a common them across State schools, UMA down 14% 2010-2020 (source Google AI, I didn't look deeper).
it's changed a bit but the renovations were cosmetic. A reading room in the entrance area and some extra reading areas. Nothing major was done.

UNH pretty much relies out out of state tuition to stay solvent. Mass students comprise about 30% of UNH students. The only New England state college with a less competitive admissions rate than UNH is UMaine. Umass is about 55%, UVM about 60%, UConn about 50% and URI in the 70s, UMaine in the 90s and UNH is the 80s. The comparison is 100% relevant. UNH is much prettier than UMass and far more attractive for Mass students location wise than UConn, UMaine, and URI. UNH is 15 minutes from Portsmouth. UNH's decline is embarrassing.

There is an existential crisis looming for higher education, as birth rates dropped more than a decade ago and an enrollment cliff is coming. Many tuition driven private colleges will close. And let's not even get started on the Maga powered question of the value of college. BTW, it's a very worthwhile conversation, although its being made in twitter form by a President thats more than a bit wacky. Yes, there's too many worthless colllege educations being given to students.
 
Appreciate the post, JB. Yes, I do. The problem here is that with State schools you are dealing with politicians or those whose understanding of politics got them a leadership post the the University. They are not profit, or even, efficiency driven people. There's no profit motive. Their motive is staying out of trouble, getting re-elected or renewed and accumulating more power for perks and respect. They can dealmake over legislation and appropriations. A private college is a bit more nuanced due to the absolute essential primary focus being on fund raising for survival. Large state schools really don't have to worry about survival.

Its hard to overstate how small minded politicians are. A well paid and connected lobbyist can accomplish a great deal over a dinner with some deal making over legislation. Getting money out of politicians is its own massive industry. Much of it has little to do with taxpayers and everything to do with lobbyists and well connected special interest groups.
Ahh, I see. You are confused (stay with me), when it comes to school funding, at any level really, the State of NH legislative branch is a rock and you want blood. But hey I am sure if you want to offer the University some free lobbying time they would take it.

Again the State of New Hampshire provides ZERO dollars for the Athletic department annual budget. Not right, not wrong, it is. The State of New Hampshire is extremely cautious when it comes to backing bonds for the University. Not right, not wrong, it is.

This is why so much fund raising is done, particularly for athletics. Football stadium was (planned) $10M private and $15M state (bond) and took what felt like decades of discussion before (foolishly) getting completed.

For the Whitt the state signed up for $6M (under Sununu 2023 budget), TDL for $4M and that means UNH knows it has a go get of $4M. Think that would be easier with another 20 win season and potential trip to Manchester NCAA site... I sure do. Again look at the other renovation projects for NCAA Hockey at state schools, the majority of that funding (if not all of it) is via donations, even in Mass.
 
it's changed a bit but the renovations were cosmetic. A reading room in the entrance area and some extra reading areas. Nothing major was done.

Been in it and I guess sure $15.5M of (1997 $$) nothing major was done. Moving a massive number of books out to complete nothing major, but OK.
 
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Been in it and I guess sure $15.5M of (1997 $$) nothing major was done. Moving a massive number of books out to complete nothing major, but OK.
$15.5 million! Where was the US atty when it was going on? I walked it last summer, as a I did 10 years ago. Dump with a nicer coat of pain. My bet is the heavy dollars went to structural (roof etc..) repair. Poorly run state schools (we can certainly agree UNH is that) don't bother with intelligent maintenance and simply start screaming the structure is in trouble.

Extremely cautious backing bonds? So it does, depending on who asks. You realize it's a policy decision and the policy is yes.

As for athletic budget, I take it the funding comes from the Universities general fund? Does that state contribute to that? JB, what you are talking about is appropriations maneuvers between the state and UNH. Please don't suggest there's an actual wall.
 
As for athletic budget, I take it the funding comes from the Universities general fund? Does that state contribute to that? JB, what you are talking about is appropriations maneuvers between the state and UNH. Please don't suggest there's an actual wall.

Ok you claim to have gone to UNH and understand all of this stuff but miss the very basics.

I have posted this before, on this thread, in response to you.

Sate of New Hampshire funds can ONLY be used for academics. FULL STOP. Yes the University is required to track this and report to the state. Has been like this for decades and decades, nothing new here. Housing & Dining - must fund itself via "room and board", no additional funding from the State. Athletics funding - see mandatory fees (~$17M) and balance from tuition or Gifts or Endowment (~$14M). FY2023-2024 Budget was $722.9M with State Appropriations being $65.9M for reference Non-Capital Gift + Endowment = $37.5M.
 
"our way of life". That's just a weird phrase. You should change your name to Buford and spend more time trying to scrape the plaque off your tooth. Goodness, you are the reason why so little gets accomplished in NH.

I attended UNH and liked it. I love the hockey program. The players were good guys and Kullen and Umile were top shelf guys when I was there. However, I always resented the nonsensical logic the "frugal" (i.e. unsophisticaed and unevolved) NH residents used to justify underfunding a college that was better than UMass in the 80s and now is morphing into a pretty lousy state school. UNH was the number two state school in New England in the 80s - behind only Vermont. Now its at the bottom.

It's depressing to walk into the Dimond Library, which was out dated in the early 90s, and see that it hasn't improved. You learn a lot about what a college thinks of itself when you simply tour the library. The Dimond is a dump. Every single penny of Morin's $4 million, which he accumulated by working decades in the library, should have been used for renovations. But people like you scoffed at his lifetime of hard work and threw it away on a dumb scoreboard. Is that what you mean by "our way of life"? And you have the temerity to blame Morin for not properly designating his gift. You also propose that Souza or the next hockey coach should go on a search for Lemmings mission to find more private money donors? Clearly, you have never raised money for anything in your life, Chuck. First rule of development? Assume the prospective donors are intelligent and truly want to help if told how to do so.

It's even more depressing to listen to the conman mentality you preach when discussing Morin's $4 million gift. You blame him for trusting UNH with his life savings. How very Eric Stratton of you - "face it, you (bleeped) up. you trusted us"

BTW, not that you have the capacity to understand this, but the reason so many great hockey players came out of Massachusetts for decades was the MDC (i.e. public) rinks that allowed lower middle and middle class kids from urban and working class suburban neighborhoods to play hockey for small money. Plenty of the well off kids learned to skate at those rinks and played their games through high school at state owned and operated facilities. Why? Because the state required them to be open to everyone.

From a UNH perspective, that's Cap Raeder, Umile, jeff Lazaro, the Brickleys, Souza, Regan, Pollastrone, the Cox brothers, Rod Langway, Sean Collins, Saviano, Joe Flanagan and many, many more. How's that for social engineering! I'd imagine it was similar in Toronto and Montreal (according to Jim Montgomery, it was) with their approach to hockey. After all Canada is socialist, right Chuck? And let's not get started on Minnesota and it's approach to having the taxpayers fund hockey rinks. Oh course, NH has ummm let's call it a modest history of developing hockey players. Wonder why......

I'm not the least bit surprised that a flat earther like you, Chuck, has literally spent 5 decades watching college hockey without a clue as to who the players really are and how they got so

"our way of life". That's just a weird phrase. You should change your name to Buford and spend more time trying to scrape the plaque off your tooth. Goodness, you are the reason why so little gets accomplished in NH.

I attended UNH and liked it. I love the hockey program. The players were good guys and Kullen and Umile were top shelf guys when I was there. However, I always resented the nonsensical logic the "frugal" (i.e. unsophisticaed and unevolved) NH residents used to justify underfunding a college that was better than UMass in the 80s and now is morphing into a pretty lousy state school. UNH was the number two state school in New England in the 80s - behind only Vermont. Now its at the bottom.

It's depressing to walk into the Dimond Library, which was out dated in the early 90s, and see that it hasn't improved. You learn a lot about what a college thinks of itself when you simply tour the library. The Dimond is a dump. Every single penny of Morin's $4 million, which he accumulated by working decades in the library, should have been used for renovations. But people like you scoffed at his lifetime of hard work and threw it away on a dumb scoreboard. Is that what you mean by "our way of life"? And you have the temerity to blame Morin for not properly designating his gift. You also propose that Souza or the next hockey coach should go on a search for Lemmings mission to find more private money donors? Clearly, you have never raised money for anything in your life, Chuck. First rule of development? Assume the prospective donors are intelligent and truly want to help if told how to do so.

It's even more depressing to listen to the conman mentality you preach when discussing Morin's $4 million gift. You blame him for trusting UNH with his life savings. How very Eric Stratton of you - "face it, you (bleeped) up. you trusted us"

BTW, not that you have the capacity to understand this, but the reason so many great hockey players came out of Massachusetts for decades was the MDC (i.e. public) rinks that allowed lower middle and middle class kids from urban and working class suburban neighborhoods to play hockey for small money. Plenty of the well off kids learned to skate at those rinks and played their games through high school at state owned and operated facilities. Why? Because the state required them to be open to everyone.

From a UNH perspective, that's Cap Raeder, Umile, jeff Lazaro, the Brickleys, Souza, Regan, Pollastrone, the Cox brothers, Rod Langway, Sean Collins, Saviano, Joe Flanagan and many, many more. How's that for social engineering! I'd imagine it was similar in Toronto and Montreal (according to Jim Montgomery, it was) with their approach to hockey. After all Canada is socialist, right Chuck? And let's not get started on Minnesota and it's approach to having the taxpayers fund hockey rinks. Oh course, NH has ummm let's call it a modest history of developing hockey players. Wonder why......

I'm not the least bit surprised that a flat earther like you, Chuck, has literally spent 5 decades watching college hockey without a clue as to who the players really are and how they got so good at hockey.
Two things: your great example of the talent found in 'our own backyard ' and that Eric Stratton reference was not lost on me. 😆
 
Ok you claim to have gone to UNH and understand all of this stuff but miss the very basics.

I have posted this before, on this thread, in response to you.

Sate of New Hampshire funds can ONLY be used for academics. FULL STOP. Yes the University is required to track this and report to the state. Has been like this for decades and decades, nothing new here. Housing & Dining - must fund itself via "room and board", no additional funding from the State. Athletics funding - see mandatory fees (~$17M) and balance from tuition or Gifts or Endowment (~$14M). FY2023-2024 Budget was $722.9M with State Appropriations being $65.9M for reference Non-Capital Gift + Endowment = $37.5M.
Rest assured I went to UNH. Who would claim they did if they didn’t? So athletic funding is appropriated 100% in house. So all it takes is a phone call? Why is it treated as a difficult task? You already noted that the State pays for infrastructure improvements.

So this is a simple commitment issue. If raising student athletic fees / tuition can do it, raising money is relatively easy although painful for the students
 
Two things: your great example of the talent found in 'our own backyard ' and that Eric Stratton reference was not lost on me. 😆
Was not Eric Stratton the rich kid, frat boy, rush chairperson in Animal House, which was supposedly based on Dartmouth College? At least the Big Green made it to the EZAC tourney in Lake Plastic this year with their relatively new and energetic coach.
 
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