UML Recruiting, Building for the future

[Hokydad]

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This from the Vipers blog

Thursday, March 24, 2011
Interior Conference Finals-Game 5: Vernon 3 Salmon Arm 2 (Overtime)
I was at tonight's Interior Conference Finals Game 5 as Vernon defeated Salmon Arm 3-2 in overtime to take a 3-2 series lead in front of 2,315 fans at the Wesbild Centre.

1st Period: The Vipers would get two chances early after Malcolm Lyles with two hard shots from inside the Backs blueline just missed the goal in the opening minute.
Just a few minutes later Malcolm Lyles with a great rush up ice went through three Silverback players before driving hard towards the goal, getting off a shot that was stopped by Kris Moore before picking up the rebound but was robbed by the goal stick of Moore who somehow got his stick down on the ice to make the save.

2nd period
Malcolm Lyles setup Marcus Basara with a nice pass as Basara tipped the puck in front just wide of the goal.
Kris Moore played one of his better games of the series as he stopped 32 of 35 Viper shots. His best save came in the first period when Malcolm Lyles beat four defenders en route to the Salmon Arm goal. Moore stopped Lyles’s initial shot, but Lyles got the rebound and looked to have a certain goal. However, Moore got the paddle of his goal stick to deny the Viper spark plug.



Top Players: (Vernon)

Malcolm Lyles was Vernon's best defenceman this evening. Lyles played one of his better games of the season. Looking good at both ends of the arena Lyles jumped up into the play, making for some exciting rushes as well as playing very well defensively. Lyles speed and physical play really stood out.

STARS OF THE GAME
1st STAR
Vernon Vipers
2nd STAR
Aaron Hadley Salmon Arm Silverbacks
Kris Moore
3rd STAR
Vernon Vipers
Malcolm Lyles



While minimizing his stumbling and falling down, the eventual 6-8th /filler d at Lowell had a solid game. JD and Nick did immediatly email the coaches, newspapers and nhl scouts and told them that he is not that good and focus on 3 years ago when he was 17 and getting 4/5 minutes of ice.

 

[Nick Papagiorgio]

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While minimizing his stumbling and falling down, the eventual 6-8th /filler d at Lowell had a solid game. JD and Nick did immediatly email the coaches, newspapers and nhl scouts and told them that he is not that good and focus on 3 years ago when he was 17 and getting 4/5 minutes of ice.

Hahahaha. Still at it, huh? Wow.

I like you a lot better when you are taking your meds.

Does this Lyles kid have a brother that plays lacrosse?

 

[Hokydad]

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Hahahaha. Still at it, huh? Wow.

I like you a lot better when you are taking your meds.

Does this Lyles kid have a brother that plays lacrosse?

No, I am not still at it. He is the one who played last night and again was awarded one of the stars of the game. Something like 21 out of last 26 games. He was the one who had people writing about him, thus the clip and paste. Zero posting their version of the facts. Clearly he is the one who is still at it. Must not have read yours, JD's and BCHF's opinions.


Yup, took it up his jr/sr in hs. Turned down offers at several schools for hockey, all D 1 and instead, went to UNC at Chapell Hill and got a 4/4 scholarship there.

 

[J.D.]

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While minimizing his stumbling and falling down, the eventual 6-8th /filler d at Lowell had a solid game. JD and Nick did immediatly email the coaches, newspapers and nhl scouts and told them that he is not that good and focus on 3 years ago when he was 17 and getting 4/5 minutes of ice.

What a tired act. As I've said probably 100 times, if Lyles has improved his skating in Vernon...very happy for him. What I don't understand is how can you get on people who saw him at BC and gave an honest opinion to UML fans on how he looked AT BC. I haven't seen him play in Vernon, so I didn't offer any opinions on how he has progressed. Why can't you just leave it at that?

Zero posting their version of the facts. Clearly he is the one who is still at it. Must not have read yours, JD's and BCHF's opinions.

Have no idea what this means, but now I'm thoroughly confused as I can't figure out if you thought highly of BCHF's posts or if you're just dismissing what any BC has to say on how Lyles looked in his time at BC.

 

[UML]

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Malcolm "the X factor" Lyles at it again!!!!!!!

 

[Hokydad]

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What a tired act. As I've said probably 100 times, if Lyles has improved his skating in Vernon...very happy for him. What I don't understand is how can you get on people who saw him at BC and gave an honest opinion to UML fans on how he looked AT BC. I haven't seen him play in Vernon, so I didn't offer any opinions on how he has progressed. Why can't you just leave it at that?



Have no idea what this means, but now I'm thoroughly confused as I can't figure out if you thought highly of BCHF's posts or if you're just dismissing what any BC has to say on how Lyles looked in his time at BC.

He hasnt improved his skating you moron, he always was an elite top percentile skater. Some kid saying he didnt think he was a good skater does not make it true. Simply means some kid had no idea what he was looking at. He was rated the top skater at national festival more than once and was one of the best skaters at BC, that was never the issue.

He has skated for years with the top skating and skills coach in the NHL, a guy who won a Stanley Cup with the Blackhawks last year and who on many occasions has said he has top nhl skating and has so for several years. Worked with both him and Kreider for the past several summers and will so again this summer. Drive up at his college pro camp and tell him that ML falls down a lot and needs to improve on his skating.

 

[Hokydad]

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Malcolm "the X factor" Lyles at it again!!!!!!!

Funny you should call him that, his coach said the exact same thing. Said he is their X factor and no other team has a player like him. Again, his exact words and not mine.

 

[UML]

Funny you should call him that, his coach said the exact same thing. Said he is their X factor and no other team has a player like him. Again, his exact words and not mine.

I'm really looking forward to seeing him in a Lowell uniform next season.

 

[J.D.]

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He hasnt improved his skating you moron, he always was an elite top percentile skater. Some kid saying he didnt think he was a good skater does not make it true. Simply means some kid had no idea what he was looking at. He was rated the top skater at national festival more than once and was one of the best skaters at BC, that was never the issue.

He has skated for years with the top skating and skills coach in the NHL, a guy who won a Stanley Cup with the Blackhawks last year and who on many occasions has said he has top nhl skating and has so for several years. Worked with both him and Kreider for the past several summers and will so again this summer. Drive up at his college pro camp and tell him that ML falls down a lot and needs to improve on his skating.

My God you are insufferable. If Lyles hasn't improves his skating at all since leaving BC, than I wouldn't expect too much out of him. If he's truly developed into an elite skater (and isn't just fast)...he has a lot of potential. That is my OPINION from what I saw at BC. That's all I have to offer. If YOU disagree--fine. I don't freakin' care. As soon as you get that through your thick skull, we can drop this.

Again, his exact words and not mine.

LOL...never stops

 

[UMLFan]

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And on and on it goes.

 

[Hokydad]

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And on and on it goes.

arrogance at his best

"If Lyles hasn't improves his skating at all since leaving BC, than I wouldn't expect too much out of him."

first it is IMPROVED, second you have no idea what a good skater is.

My opinion or your opinion is talk radio.

nhl teams, nhl skills coaches and jr/D 1 coaches are what matters.

the BCHL is one of the top 2 skating/skill jr leagues in N America. them and the USHL(not counting major jr, WHL, Q or OHL as they are not college feeders)

He’s one of a kind,” said Viper captain David Robinson. “He’s always jumping around out there. I’d probably say he’s the fastest player in the league and maybe the strongest player in the league as well. You see him many times just tossing around guys. He’s naturally talented.”

“Malcolm has steadily improved throughout the season and has become one of the premier defencemen in the league,” said Vipers’ assistant coach Jason Williamson. “His skating ability and strength are among the best in the BCHL. His style of play has made him a fan favourite


I did contact the Vernon assistant and told him that JD said he was not an elite skater and to retract the article immedaitly. JD said his skating needs to improve or he wont expect much. As of today, ML has been relegated to the stands and will not be dressing tonight


Even this last quote I saw, again, not from me. What I find most amazing is that he did this while falling down 3 times

Robinson was all smiles discussing Lyles’ special letter of intent day.

“It’s awesome. I think the fans would attest he’s probably the most exciting player on our team. You saw tonight, he had six seconds left, he had the puck in our own end and somehow he got that overtime winner

 

[irishfan85]

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Ok. We get it. You really, really like Malcom Lyles. I'm sure he will be a decent player at UML. Move on.

 

[J.D.]

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LOL this is unbelievable. I'm really not sure where the disconnect is here. Let me try this one last time...

If me giving an honest opinion of a player from his time at BC (never once mentioned anything about his time with Vernon) is going to be misclassified as arrogance...you simply don't understand the definition of the word.

Next, you just said yourself that his skating HAS improved since leaving BC. I said that IF it hasn't then I wouldn't expect much from him. I didn't say it hasn't...I said IF it hasn't. So, if his skating has improved like you say it has...I think he can contribute for UML. Again, where is the disconnect?

For the last time, I don't ****ing care what other people think about him RIGHT NOW. My opinion was based solely off of what I saw at BC. If YOU disagree with what I saw, fine. That's your right. If other people disagree...that's fine as well.

I do have one last question...how many times are you gonna trot this out?

"I did contact the Vernon assistant and told him that JD said he was not an elite skater and to retract the article immedaitly. JD said his skating needs to improve or he wont expect much. As of today, ML has been relegated to the stands and will not be dressing tonight"

Again, just a tired act. But then again, you simply can't grasp a simple concept that I've never seen him play with Vernon nor did I comment on how he has developed since leaving BC.

 

[UMLFan]

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Move on.

This should apply to everyone who keeps responding. Luckily I can't see the posts anymore.

 

[Hokydad]

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LOL this is unbelievable. I'm really not sure where the disconnect is here. Let me try this one last time...

If me giving an honest opinion of a player from his time at BC (never once mentioned anything about his time with Vernon) is going to be misclassified as arrogance...you simply don't understand the definition of the word.

Next, you just said yourself that his skating HAS improved since leaving BC. I said that IF it hasn't then I wouldn't expect much from him. I didn't say it hasn't...I said IF it hasn't. So, if his skating has improved like you say it has...I think he can contribute for UML. Again, where is the disconnect?

For the last time, I don't ****ing care what other people think about him RIGHT NOW. My opinion was based solely off of what I saw at BC. If YOU disagree with what I saw, fine. That's your right. If other people disagree...that's fine as well.

I do have one last question...how many times are you gonna trot this out?

"I did contact the Vernon assistant and told him that JD said he was not an elite skater and to retract the article immedaitly. JD said his skating needs to improve or he wont expect much. As of today, ML has been relegated to the stands and will not be dressing tonight"

Again, just a tired act. But then again, you simply can't grasp a simple concept that I've never seen him play with Vernon nor did I comment on how he has developed since leaving BC.

same number of times you trot your foolishness out.

Never once said his skating improved. Always has been an elite skater, one of the tops in the country at his age. Still is. just like he was when he played at BC. Which is exactly why York targeted him and personaly recruited him.

His game play was what hurt him at BC minutes wise. If you think York and his staff brought him in and pegged him an avg or below avg skater, you are a fool. Which I firmly believe you are.

Arrogance is believing you know everything and dismissing experts opinions, not mine but alll of the folks quoted. The problem is that you are to arrogant and or stupid to see that. probably a combination of both.

 

[J.D.]

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Never once said his skating improved.

first it is IMPROVED

Who's "trotting out the foolishness"? Do you honestly want to keep doing this to yourself?

If you think York and his staff brought him in and pegged him an avg or below avg skater

I never called Lyles an average or below average skater. Stop making **** up.

Arrogance is believing you know everything and dismissing experts opinions, not mine but alll of the folks quoted. The problem is that you are to arrogant and or stupid to see that. probably a combination of both.

This is all well and good, except that me offering an opinion on what I saw at BC doesn't equate to me thinking I know everything. Please find me a post where I've dismissed what an NHL scout had to say about Lyles after seeing him play for Vernon.

 

[Hokydad]

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said his game improved moron, not his skating

See Dick run, see Spot Jump

that is the level you should focus on

The good thing here is we now have JD over on the BU board telling them that David Warsofsky is not a smart hockey player.

The Jethro Bodine of the board. For now on, I will refer to you as JB and not JD

 

[J.D.]

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"If Lyles hasn't improves his skating at all since leaving BC, than I wouldn't expect too much out of him."

first it is IMPROVED, second you have no idea what a good skater is.

said his game improved moron, not his skating

Hate to do this to you hoky, I really do, but this is the EXACT exchange. The very first quote was from me, followed by your response. I specifically mentioned SKATING and you then responded with "it is improved". You did NOT mention his "game", so do not call me the moron...thanks for playing.

The good thing here is we now have JD over on the BU board telling them that David Warsofsky is not a smart hockey player.

Nope, never said that either. Are you ever going to stop making **** up?

 

[Hokydad]

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Wrong as usual JB..

Was talking about his game. Have said 1000 times, always has been an elite skater and always will be.

http://www.google.com/products/cata...=X&ei=cOKMTY-fDK6L0QGo-cGQCw&ved=0CCkQ8wIwAg#

 

[J.D.]

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Ah yeas, the old proven wrong...yet I'm still right trick. That sounds more like arrogance than anything you've brought up. Have a miserable day, hoky.