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UML Recruiting, 2017+

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UMLFan

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I'm going to let the old thread die (which was here) down because that goes all the way back to 2014.

Here's the 2017 roster, as currently constituted. I'm going to put Wall in for 2017 for now, as I can't see all three expected goalies staying till 2018 if they're not getting a chance (and I'd guess at least one will leave).

I'd personally be shocked if every single veteran player listed sticks on the roster from now till the start of the 2017 season, so I'd venture that there will be 2/3 more recruits planned for this class.

Outside of the potential of Wall slipping out to 2018, Lowell is the only HE program that doesn't have a 2018 or later commit.

17/18 roster

Defense (9):
Senior: Chris Forney, Tyler Mueller, Tommy Panico
Juniors: Avni Berisha, Niklas Folin, Jacob Townsend
Sophomore: Mattias Goransson
Freshmen: Cale List, Trevor Zins

Forwards (15):
Seniors: Ryan Collins, John Edwardh, Gage Hough, Jake Kamrass, Mike Louria, CJ Smith
Juniors: Ryan Dmowski, Nick Master, Connor Wilson
Sophomores: Kenny Hausinger, Guillaume LeClerc, Ryan Lohin, Nicholas Marin, Colin O’Neill, James Winkler
Freshmen:

Goalies (4):
Juniors: Sean Cleary, Chris Hernberg
Sophomore: Garrett Metcalf
Freshmen: Tyler Wall

This leaves us at 28 on the roster, with the class breakdown for 2017/2018 being:
Seniors: 9
Juniors: 8
Sophomores: 6
Freshmen: 3
 
Re: UML Recruiting, 2017+

So we'll likely see one more late forward signing I would have to guess. Wasn't Cleary a borderline draft pick a couple years ago (like 5th round projection). Last year can't count as a red shirt right?
 
UML Puck Hawk said:
So we'll likely see one more late forward signing I would have to guess. Wasn't Cleary a borderline draft pick a couple years ago (like 5th round projection). Last year can't count as a red shirt right?
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Red shirts can't be applied for retroactively aside from medical redshirts... Medical red shirts can only apply if a player plays in less than 20% of the team's games
 
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UMLFan said:
Wow, that team will have to do some travelling.
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I wonder if the team will play a schedule that's mostly against other teams in the East division with maybe a few trips to keep travel and costs down
 
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boblav1 said:
I wonder if the team will play a schedule that's mostly against other teams in the East division with maybe a few trips to keep travel and costs down
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Makes sense.

Glad to see them expanding here though because the two best US leagues are a long way from New England. The old EJHL wasn't bad, but the new version ... not so much.
 
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UMLFan said:
Makes sense.

Glad to see them expanding here though because the two best US leagues are a long way from New England. The old EJHL wasn't bad, but the new version ... not so much.
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how do these teams survive? Do they get enough local support to break even? Pay to play? Benefactors?
 
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All marketing.
Zero attendance
Look at Chicago in Ushl, less fans than at a hs game around here. To many other options as a consumer
The lure of Ushl, bchl and to some extent, NAHL is the fact you don't pay the ten thousand plus they charge around here, plus all equipment etc is free
No one is coming to Attleboro to watch and all it is will be a glorified way to pretend they are above USPHL, which they are not
 
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Hokydad said:
All marketing.
Zero attendance
Look at Chicago in Ushl, less fans than at a hs game around here. To many other options as a consumer
The lure of Ushl, bchl and to some extent, NAHL is the fact you don't pay the ten thousand plus they charge around here, plus all equipment etc is free
No one is coming to Attleboro to watch and all it is will be a glorified way to pretend they are above USPHL, which they are not
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you didn't answer the question
 
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Hokydad said:
The lure of Ushl, bchl and to some extent, NAHL is the fact you don't pay the ten thousand plus they charge around here, plus all equipment etc is free
No one is coming to Attleboro to watch and all it is will be a glorified way to pretend they are above USPHL, which they are not
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Hoky, honestly I figured you might have some good insight here, but its an NAHL team thats moving. Feels like its a good way for players to stay close to home and within easy reach of a lot of College programs, but if its competing against high school for the players and the travel is as extreme as I feel like it will be it will definitely be difficult. That said, more opportunities and more hockey the better
 
UML Puck Hawk said:
Hoky, honestly I figured you might have some good insight here, but its an NAHL team thats moving. Feels like its a good way for players to stay close to home and within easy reach of a lot of College programs, but if its competing against high school for the players and the travel is as extreme as I feel like it will be it will definitely be difficult. That said, more opportunities and more hockey the better
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But they won't stay for this. This is a glorified USPHL at best team
No elite kid would stay here and play when they can go to Ushl or bchl.
To much competition for your dollar. No one is laying ten cents to watch a game in Attleboro. Like all of the other developments like this one, the third owner will have an outside shot of making money.

Go to Ushl, bchl you walk in... They hand you free tuition, pay someone to house you, equipment from head to toe, 20 custom sticks, 2 pair of high end skates, everything. All meals, hotels, travel, off ice on and on is covered
The key here is also the coaching staffs, very high end

This Attleboro team will charge money which means it is no different than any other mass region junior team

I also don't agree with the more the better. So many teams it's a comedy act. No parity and coaches don't feel comfortable taking a kid as they have no clue what his true level is. They go to Ushl and bchl and offer on spot if they like player
USPHL top 5 are all better option by a mike than this team
 
Patman said:
how do these teams survive? Do they get enough local support to break even? Pay to play? Benefactors?
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It's simply USPHL with fake affiliation

Ushl teams get thousands a night with tickets 15-25 bucks, ton of concessions and sponsors
That won't happen here

Sioux Falls attendance is 185000 so far, over 6500 a game

Add that up and picture some seriously overweight people pounding food

I was at a game earlier this year, a mom in front of me weighed about 240, had two 40 ounce beers, extra large nachos and was feeding her 9 month old Pepsi and an industrial sized bag of skittles. I was looking around for the banjo...
No diabetes issues in Midwest ....

But they go as it's the only game in town
 
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boblav1 said:
Recruit Ryan Lohin had his 12 game scoring streak stopped last night. He had 20 points (8-12-20) over that 12 game period. Ryan is currently ranked 7th in scoring in the USHL with 57 points (23-34-57). The USHL regular season ends next weekend.

http://stats.ushl.com/ushl/ushl/en/statview/player?playerId=418&season=48
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Final USHL regular season stats:

Ryan Lohin - 62 -23-34-57 (8th in scoring)
Ken Hausinger - 60 -16-32-48 (23rd)
Mattias Goransson - 58 -7-34-41 (42nd)
Guillaume Leclerc - 54 -13-16-29 (95th)
James Winkler - 49 -11-10-21 (148th)
Trevor Zins - 26 - 0-1-1

Garrett Metcalf - 36 - 13-16-2 - GAA 3.21 - SAV% .902 (23rd)

Waterloo (Lohin, Metcalf), Cedar Rapids (Zins) and Tri-City (Goransson) made the USHL playoffs.
 
Patman said:
how do these teams survive? Do they get enough local support to break even? Pay to play? Benefactors?
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NAHL is Tier II juniors. Players pay only for boarding and skates. Billet families, not hockey houses.

Somebody needs a tax write off.
 
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Maine just picked up it's fourth commitment from 2017 and beyond, in just the last month, which brings them to 15 that are definitely for 2017 or later. PC picked up twin commits (literally) and have three in the last 2 weeks for 2017 and beyond. UNH just received their second for 2018 or 2019, both in the last 3 weeks.
 
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