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UMASS-NEWMASS Offseason/Recruits

I know zip about this player or his situation but I know that Carvel places a high premium on character. My guess is that Carvel/Barr vetted the situation thoroughly before inviting him to UMASS.
 
Morrow's USHL rights were with Youngstown, Sioux City, and Fargo, ... just in the last year. No red flags there. (I need 23's eye-roll emoji here.)

Maybe it's me, but I trust Brad Berry over a recruit's dad.
 
Jackcurtis23 said:
Hey all, congrats on the Natty. I'm a Maine fan, so the topic may be sensitive...but have to ask, what are you all hearing about Barr potentially landing in Orono? Anything?
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Barr is an appealing candidate on a number of levels, but he has been regularly mentioned for openings for four or five years, and a finalist in at least one or two situations, only to have it not work out. I think that he's had bad luck with matching the timing and context of certain opportunities with his resume at the time, and that's mostly out of his control. Not having pro assistant experience hasn't helped him either. Maybe being the top assistant for the National Champions will put him over the top in the very near future. His recruiting record is just too strong to be ignored. How his resume stacks up to Maine's checklist is something I don't have a strong opinion on.
 
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Appreciate you guys entertaining this lifelong Black Bear fan on your thread. I'm originally from mass, and always knew UMA was a sleeping giant, glad you all are finally reaping the rewards of a competent administration and staff. Rumor is job at Maine is closed, with Barr, Guite, and Scott Pellerin as the final three candidates. Who knows. But Barr seems like the perfect fit for Maine, and for him. You will lose him eventually, but I think any college hockey fan would admit it would be good for the game to have Maine be relevant again!
 
Congrats to Ben Barr on getting the Maine job. I'm not into the ins and outs of hockey recruiting but wonder how this will impact UMASS. Who takes his place? Any thoughts out there?
 
kahunak said:
Congrats to Ben Barr on getting the Maine job. I'm not into the ins and outs of hockey recruiting but wonder how this will impact UMASS. Who takes his place? Any thoughts out there?
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Interested in this as well. Anyone who watched Barr's press conference yesterday could easily figure out why he was just so successful with his recruiting pitch at multiple programs, and will almost certainly keep that streak alive at UMaine. But his departure does leave a gaping hole in the UMass program. I'm sure UMass is stacked with a few years of recruits in the pipeline due to Barr's previous work, and from competing for (and then winning) the D-1 title for the last few seasons ... can Coach Carvel keep that machine humming beyond the last of the Barr recruits, and if not, when does it start to show? You just don't grow successful recruiters like Ben Barr on trees. Who steps into the breach, and how long can they keep it going?
 
Chuck Murray said:
Interested in this as well. Anyone who watched Barr's press conference yesterday could easily figure out why he was just so successful with his recruiting pitch at multiple programs, and will almost certainly keep that streak alive at UMaine. But his departure does leave a gaping hole in the UMass program. I'm sure UMass is stacked with a few years of recruits in the pipeline due to Barr's previous work, and from competing for (and then winning) the D-1 title for the last few seasons ... can Coach Carvel keep that machine humming beyond the last of the Barr recruits, and if not, when does it start to show? You just don't grow successful recruiters like Ben Barr on trees. Who steps into the breach, and how long can they keep it going?
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That's the rub. Do the recruits that Barr signed up for UMASS switch to Maine? Or does the fact that UMASS won the national championship keeps everyone in place? I don't have a great understanding of how successful asst coaches in hockey do when promoted to head coach but I know in bball it is completely hit or miss. My guess is that there will be a lot of people who want to take Barr's place at UMASS and I trust Carvel's approach. I just hope Barr is not too successful in Orono.
 
kahunak said:
That's the rub. Do the recruits that Barr signed up for UMASS switch to Maine? Or does the fact that UMASS won the national championship keeps everyone in place? I don't have a great understanding of how successful asst coaches in hockey do when promoted to head coach but I know in bball it is completely hit or miss. My guess is that there will be a lot of people who want to take Barr's place at UMASS and I trust Carvel's approach. I just hope Barr is not too successful in Orono.
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It would be poor form for him to try to poach recruits and I doubt he does that. As a Maine fan I definitely don’t want it to happen.

edit: Jerry York is a huge admirer of other teams players and recruits, he is the one I would be more concerned about if I was you.
 
LOL at singling out York. He doesn't do anything differently from other "cut throat" coaches (read as bigger programs) across the country. Your strange obsession with York continues. One day you will realize that kids end up going to what is the best situation for them. That is not a problem.
 
kahunak said:
That's the rub. Do the recruits that Barr signed up for UMASS switch to Maine? Or does the fact that UMASS won the national championship keeps everyone in place? I don't have a great understanding of how successful asst coaches in hockey do when promoted to head coach but I know in bball it is completely hit or miss. My guess is that there will be a lot of people who want to take Barr's place at UMASS and I trust Carvel's approach. I just hope Barr is not too successful in Orono.
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I don't see many (if any?) current Barr recruits switching from UMass to UMaine.

I think the key issue will be, once Barr's "inventory" at UMass dries up, can they maintain it without him? If Carvel can keep the program winning on the ice, it'll improve their chances to stay firmly established near the top. But look at UMaine ... first they had to deal with Walsh's passing in 2001, and then they had to deal with Standbrook's retirement circa 2013. The guys who replaced them weren't able to maintain things. Can UMass/Carvel maintain things post-Barr, and if so, how long?

UMass is hardly an established D-1 hockey power, UMaine was on top longer when Walsh and then Standbrook weren't there any more. Just speculating on how it will all play out ...
 
Yeah. That’s very unexpected. I don’t know what this means for Lindberg. You figure if both are back Lindberg is the number 1, and I’d also expect Murray would want to be the number one somewhere too...
 
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