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UCONN Hockey 2012-13: Hockey East Here We Come

Re: UCONN Hockey 2012-13: Hockey East Here We Come

Obviously you guys want the team to do well in their final year in AH, but this hire wasn't made based on what coach gives UConn the best chance to win a freakin' AH title next year. And if god forbid they ended up making the hire based on that, wow, signs of an incompetent AD. it's all about what coach is best suited to lead UConn into hockey east.

Which would make a poor showing in the "lame duck year" that much more inexcusable, surely?
 
I certainly hope that UConn covered his level of commitment in the interview...As I said I think he is the biggest risk but als has the biggest long term upside. If he is successful he could be a good coach at UConn for a long time. As for the comparison of AHA hockey and Hockey East, there's no question that Hockey East is much much better overall. The better teams are a good deal better. And there are more of them. But the Atlantic of 2013 is a far cry from the original league. It has sent a team to the Frozen Four. it has now sent 2 teams to the NCAA tournament and a 3rd was on the cusp. As someone who has followed UConn for years, there is no question that it is a much more competititve league than it was a decade ago. And as i said, I watched this team under Berard and he did a really good job. Plyed hard disciplined hockey. Played to their strengths. Didn't panic when things went wrong as they often do in this game. And if you think coach Cav will be given a pass for a couple of seasons, I think you're going to be in for a bit of a shock. And I can't speak to his recruiting at PC except 2nd hand, but he clearly has brought a better quality of player to Storrs in his few years here. The past season raised the bar. A return to 15-18, 0-7 non-conference is just not going to cut it. And next year expectations will be higher still. Not in terms of winning Hockey East. there is some realism, but I think people will be expecting to win in the non-conference and to compete in HEA. I don't know where he will end up, but I really do think that Berard will be a good coach somewhere someday.
Jim you bring up some valid points but let's look at this hire from a different angle. It isn't like Cavanaugh is replacing a legendary coach like Gwozdecky or York at UCONN. Berard was able to do a great job with hand he was dealt this past season, but he was an interim coach. Cavanaugh is going to do a good job here. The experience he has gained as York's right hand man in big spots like NCAA championship games can inly be obtained by being there. If you want to aspire to get to that level at some point you need to compete at that level. As for the your comments about the AHA...yes it has improved BUT it still isn't the level of competition night in and night out of HE. I would say if anything the recent success of AHA teams shows the amount of parity in college hockey right now. We are in the AHA for one more season then it is time to move up with the big boys. I thought Gwozdecky or Cavanaugh gave us the best shot to compete at that level. We will see what Cav has
 
Re: UCONN Hockey 2012-13: Hockey East Here We Come

And if you think coach Cav will be given a pass for a couple of seasons, I think you're going to be in for a bit of a shock.

First of all, he won't be given a pass by who? All 8 Uconn hockey fans?

Second, you can bet every single Rebecca Lobo poster in your bedroom that he will be given a pass for a couple of seasons by the Uconn administration. Not only is this a new coach coming in with his own systems, new recruiting strategy, etc, but he'll be taking the team from the AHA to Hockey East. He'll be given a 3-4 year window just to get things set up the way he wants them. That takes time and will take even more time in a league transition such as this one. The clock will then start to tick on whether they are moving in the right direction.
 
Re: UCONN Hockey 2012-13: Hockey East Here We Come

Which would make a poor showing in the "lame duck year" that much more inexcusable, surely?

Again, a poor first year might be inexcusable to the internet fanatics, but it won't be with any reasonable person.
 
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A word of caution to UConn fans. No matter who would be coach next year would have a difficult time in Atlantic Hockey next year. When teams transition to a new league everybody in the old league will have those games circled on their calendars. There will be a little resentment regarding breaking up what once was. Maybe not as much as when BC left the Big East for the ACC but there will be some. Maryland will not have a fun last year in the ACC and Rutgers will have trouble in the Big East this year too. Traitors have targets on their backs. UConn fans surely know the feeling from the other perspective so to expect to dominate the AHA in their last season is very unrealistic.
 
Re: UCONN Hockey 2012-13: Hockey East Here We Come

Again, a poor first year might be inexcusable to the internet fanatics, but it won't be with any reasonable person.
A poor first year would be perhaps not disasterous, but quite bad. The Huskies are looking to dramatically increase their following and there is widespread skepticism that they will be ready. Going backwards at this juncture would not be a good thing. It would delay the growth of the fan base by several years and significanly reduce season ticket sales in their first year at the XL. The current UConn fans are looking for a trip to the AHA championship final at an absolute minimum as an indicator. That is where the bar is set.
 
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If you take a step back, yes, I can understand the disappointment. Still has no bearing on what cav is doing/what his future plans are. The administration will be looking for results in hockey east a few years down the road, not atlantic hockey this year. While it's important to diehards, it's irrelevant in the big picture.
 
Re: UCONN Hockey 2012-13: Hockey East Here We Come

A poor first year would be perhaps not disasterous, but quite bad. The Huskies are looking to dramatically increase their following and there is widespread skepticism that they will be ready. Going backwards at this juncture would not be a good thing. It would delay the growth of the fan base by several years and significanly reduce season ticket sales in their first year at the XL. The current UConn fans are looking for a trip to the AHA championship final at an absolute minimum as an indicator. That is where the bar is set.
Why set the bar so low? Undefeated baby... or run his arse outa town.
 
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No, that's RPI after winning a first round game in ECAC tourn and then immediately choking to last place team. So happy RPI was the next team added to HE. It was RPI wasn't it?

Does anyone know this guy???? If you do, please check his cellar.
 
Re: UCONN Hockey 2012-13: Hockey East Here We Come

mem/or/a/bil/ia you moron. Sandusky jokes were funny last year but nice effort. Plenty of people know me on here and I use a REAL name you coward. And I actually will not be in my mom's basement, she's dead. If you want to know where to find me this weekend, I will be at Nassau Colesium Saturday and the Garden on Sunday. Maybe your good friend Bobby Orr can get you tickets! Done picking on you boy. Too **** easy.

His ad hominem attacks included my wife, who was dying of lung cancer at the time.
 
Re: UCONN Hockey 2012-13: Hockey East Here We Come

I should also note that historically UConn coaches are given a wide berth to succeed... It's rare they just up and ditch a coach in a couple of years.
 
Re: UCONN Hockey 2012-13: Hockey East Here We Come

No disappointment. Just the riskiest pick that could have been made.
That is what I think too. Cav was the high risk high reward choice. And I think the AHA season will be tricky partly for the reasons BC/HE raised and partly because you never know what will happen when a new guy takes over. There is often a learning curve for the current players,and in this case maybe one for the head coach. And there is always the issue of whether you try and fit your system to the players or the players to the system you want to play going forward. Some coaches are perfectly happy to take a step back before going forward, others want to win now to set a precedent. Nobody really knows Cav's approach to these matters. And in this case he'll have to win over the locker room that was pretty firmly behind Berard. The problem with a disappointing final AHA season is that there is already skeptism about this move in the state, and not a little resentment too. If UConn ends up 12-24 in 9th place that will hurt the overall effort to market the program as one that's ready for the new move. Doesn't kill it permanently, but sets it back. If UConn ends up competing for participation medals in the next 5 years, it will be much trickier. On the other hand going to Hockey East as AHA Champ/with an NCAA bid will send a really positive message to both the fans and Hockey East that this is a real deal.
 
Re: UCONN Hockey 2012-13: Hockey East Here We Come

No disappointment. Just the riskiest pick that could have been made.

I meant if you take a step back on the ice this year, not if you take a step back from the situation. Anyway, seems like it was really down to Berard and Cav. I can even understand if you wanted to see Berard get a chance. I just don't view Cav as a riskier option.
 
Re: UCONN Hockey 2012-13: Hockey East Here We Come

In fact, I'd say there was no risk to this pick at all. You hired the long-time assistant from the best program in the country over the past 10+ years. That's not risky. Risky would be the Red Sox hiring Bobby Valentine.
 
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Jim, you're talking about one year. If UConn takes a step back next year and then in the first year in HE, that won't be out of the ordinary. Give the guy a few years to put his stamp on the program. If he gets things going, fans aren't gonna be looking back at the disappointment of not winning the Atlantic Hockey title.
 
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