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UCONN 2011-12 Men's Hockey Thread

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Frustrating to see their end of the season collapse bite them in the butt like that. Mark of a young team, playing up and down to team's levels. But your right they have nothing to hang their heads about after their performance in Air Force. To think Air Force dominated the championship weekend, and UConn blew two leads in each game that they lost out there. Not only were they within striking distance of upsetting them in three, they could of potentially swept. Hopefully it serves as another reminder of how slim the margin for error is and how close they are to doing something special. Have to plug the hole Cole Schneider leaves behind though, not going to be easy. Also how does Alex Gerke not get on the all atlantic first team? More points than Kirby and Mathis, I understand Air Force won the league but that's a joke.

Young Team???? average team age of uconn is 21.75
 
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Young Team???? average team age of uconn is 21.75

Yes, young team. Only 10 upperclassmen (JR/SR) on a roster of 28. The average age of 21.75 actually plays more to that point when you consider that the great majority of division 1 hockey freshmen are 20 or 21. Young team
 
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Yes, young team. Only 10 upperclassmen (JR/SR) on a roster of 28. The average age of 21.75 actually plays more to that point when you consider that the great majority of division 1 hockey freshmen are 20 or 21. Young team




Canisius ave age 21.08 with 6 upperclassman(jr/sr) of 26 players.
 
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Looking at the calendar, I suspect an announcement of some kind will be forthcoming in mid to late April, but certainly by May 1.
 
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Just my opinion, I would love to see UConn go Hockey East... Having said that, I assume that that the new AD coming from Michigan and seeing the strength of their hockey program, that he would recognize the potential of UConn hockey.
Just putting it out there, one thing I've noticed is how people (outside) of Uconn aren't giving UConn a chance in HE. This is about building a program, very similarly to what Jimmy C and Geno have done with the basketball program. UConn Men's BB was a doormat for the Big East and I remember when women's admission was free at the field house. I'm not gonna say an upgrade is a guarantee for success but every program has to start somewhere.

Boston has their beanpot, why not start the Nutmeg Cup between UConn, Yale, Quinnipiac and Sacred Heart? I'm sure we could get the Civic Center. I'm thinking towards the future and building, not what's already established.
 
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Iis there any type of time table, either from HE or just self imposed by UConn?
Not that I am aware of. And we do not even know if HE is the answer we'll get. But you have to think that six months for a study like this is enough, especially since they studied it internally first. When they moved football up, the outside consultants came back with the conclusion desired and added the validity of an outside third party opinion. Gotta think the situation is similar here. The only thing that could hold it up timewise, I think, is getting the legislature and Governor on board.
 
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Not that I am aware of. And we do not even know if HE is the answer we'll get. But you have to think that six months for a study like this is enough, especially since they studied it internally first. When they moved football up, the outside consultants came back with the conclusion desired and added the validity of an outside third party opinion. Gotta think the situation is similar here. The only thing that could hold it up timewise, I think, is getting the legislature and Governor on board.

Why would the legislature and Governor need to be on board? Just my thinking, but if a new arena and scholarships are the big issues, wouldn't that be done by private donations to the athletic department? The State has already subsidized Freitas from the UConn 2000 Project. I don't see the state assisting with any more than what they already have, especially with the budget problems that state is having.
 
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Why would the legislature and Governor need to be on board? Just my thinking, but if a new arena and scholarships are the big issues, wouldn't that be done by private donations to the athletic department? The State has already subsidized Freitas from the UConn 2000 Project. I don't see the state assisting with any more than what they already have, especially with the budget problems that state is having.

At the very least, the governor is privy to any decision to expand the university's footprint or build capital projects, as the governor is a member of the Board of Trustees ex-officio, so his approval is desirable if not required. The legislature, of course, should probably be on board more as a matter of courtesy, but certainly a project plan that includes private donations is going to be put in front of them anyway if only to say "We're not coming to beg for money, honest!"

Boston has their beanpot, why not start the Nutmeg Cup between UConn, Yale, Quinnipiac and Sacred Heart? I'm sure we could get the Civic Center. I'm thinking towards the future and building, not what's already established.

The number of games open for non-conference play will be the major problem in getting such a tournament going. Yale will only ever have 7 games to play with, given the Ivy self-imposed limit of 29 (as do, at current, UConn and Sacred Heart, with the 27 game AHA schedule). UConn already hosts its own holiday tournament, and would be reluctant to give it up, as it's a chance to get 2 decent non-conference opponents to come play in their rink. Quinnipiac, of course, has many dates to play with, but they are the exception.

While it'd no doubt be nice for the idea of "Connecticut hockey" as a collective, I don't think it's truly in the *individual* best interests of the schools to do it.

Not that I am aware of. And we do not even know if HE is the answer we'll get.

Exactly. I think it's fairly safe to assume that both UConn and Hockey East are working on their own time tables, and there's no guarantee the two will intersect. I certainly think that Hockey East is interested if we get our ducks in a row and can demonstrate a commitment to the sport, but they're certainly not waiting by the phone.
 
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Told ya something was gonna come down soon, one way or another. Looks like it will be what we are hoping for. Keeping the fingers crossed!

I would be surprised if they build an entirely new building. They can expand Freitas pretty easily. Play at the HCC during the year it takes them to expand it. There are some pretty small barns in HE now, so interim arrangements should not be problematic.
 
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Told ya something was gonna come down soon, one way or another. Looks like it will be what we are hoping for. Keeping the fingers crossed!

I would be surprised if they build an entirely new building. They can expand Freitas pretty easily. Play at the HCC during the year it takes them to expand it. There are some pretty small barns in HE now, so interim arrangements should not be problematic.
Dick, looks like we both are going to be held to the promise to up our donations, huh?
 
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As much as I want the ECAC spot that your ascension would block...I can't help but be excited at the prospect of getting UAH into AHA.

I'm very torn on which way I want these dominoes to fall.
 
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Dick, looks like we both are going to be held to the promise to up our donations, huh?
Happily, Jim. And we will buy the season tix too despite the fact that when you ski every weekend it is tough to get to many games.
 
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I hope you guys get into HE or the ECAC but I pray that the Mall won't be your home ice.

It's too large, off campus, and won't work. You need a new on campus rink that seats ~3,500.

The state of CT has been using UCONN sports in an attempt to save the city of Hartford since the Whalers left.

UCONN hoops are huge and people head in for that...students and alumni alike.

UCONN football is on Saturdays and there's only 5 or 6 games a year. The 40,000 seat stadium, one of the smallest in the Big East, isn't always full.

The question you've got to aks yourself is: How many folks are going to head into Hartford on a Friday for a 7 PM face-off against Merrimack College or UMass Lowell?

BU-BC couldn't fill the Garden for a regular season match-up, if there was one.

I just think playing at the XL Center is a huge mistake. Huge.

MOST of the HE games that are played on campus in much smaller arenas (3,000-7,00 seats) aren't sold-out.

It would look silly and be empty in there.

I do miss the Whalers though...
 
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I thought HE has a 4,500 seat mandate on any new arena.
 
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I thought HE has a 4,500 seat mandate on any new arena.
Good question. Somehow I had thought that it was actually 5,000. But the report says 4,000 so maybe that is a negotiated number.

Can't believe that Freitas could not get to 4,000 pretty easily. In addition to raising the roof they can push the building out west and get at least another 500 especially if they raise the roof. They may not be GOOD seats high up in the end, but they would be no worse than the high ends of the HCC or the Gut and would get them to the magic number for HE membership.

Somehow I get the impression that the report has been spun to conform to the wishes of the Governor and the Legislature. If so, then so be it. Let's git 'er done and improve things later if need be. This is an opportunity not to be missed.
 
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I hope you guys get into HE or the ECAC but I pray that the Mall won't be your home ice.

It's too large, off campus, and won't work. You need a new on campus rink that seats ~3,500.

The state of CT has been using UCONN sports in an attempt to save the city of Hartford since the Whalers left.

UCONN hoops are huge and people head in for that...students and alumni alike.

UCONN football is on Saturdays and there's only 5 or 6 games a year. The 40,000 seat stadium, one of the smallest in the Big East, isn't always full.

The question you've got to aks yourself is: How many folks are going to head into Hartford on a Friday for a 7 PM face-off against Merrimack College or UMass Lowell?

BU-BC couldn't fill the Garden for a regular season match-up, if there was one.

I just think playing at the XL Center is a huge mistake. Huge.

MOST of the HE games that are played on campus in much smaller arenas (3,000-7,00 seats) aren't sold-out.

It would look silly and be empty in there.

I do miss the Whalers though...
I don't know anyone who thinks the XL (nee Hartford civic Center) is really the answer but if that's the price, that's the price, I guess. And it might just be the price. As one Hartford pol explained to me years ago, the one thing about the University of connecticut is they ain't picking up and moving to North Carolina...If I were betting on this, I'd bet that this thing plays oput with 2 "homes" for the Huskies. In a say an 18 game home schedule, Frietas will be home for early season matchups with lesser known non-conference opponents, old AHA opponents, maybe the odd ECAC/WCHA opponent, and probably a couple of lesser known HEA games, Merrimack, Lowell maybe. BC, BU, Notre Dame, PC, UMass get played at the XL. Then you play maybe one or two "name" teams out of conference there, too like a Michigan. In the end you play maybe 8-9 games at Frietas and say 10 in hartford. Not ideal but not awful either. It is essentially the model that the basketball team used in its early Big East days before Gampel Pavillion was built. Big name games in Hartford. Lesser known opponents in the old Field House, and play enough games in Storrs to keep the local fans from rebelling...maybe 1 "name"game there every now and again, too.

As far as the size of the Civic/XL Center, fact is it is just too big...actually its too big for most things that happen there. Even UCONN basketball stuggles to sell it out. In a major overhall, I think they'd be well served to reduce capacity to maybe 10-12,000...doesn't help UCONN Hockey, but it makes way more sense for the market they are in.
 
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