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UAH Hockey 2012-13: Still breathing

Sounds like the conference talks are going pretty good for UAH. Great news!

I think that is where their frustration lies. They've had good talks with conferences. They've been told they'd be a good fit and that they would bring excitement and potential to these leagues...

And yet, here they are, still "homeless."
 
Re: UAH Hockey 2012-13: Still breathing

The frustrating thing is that UAH simply cannot manage to wait until all dance partners have been selected much longer. The lack of a conference with the accompanying conference schedule and stability continues to weaken the state of D1 hockey in Huntsville.

The commitment to keep the program going is there from the administration, but the situation is not tenable.

GFM <-- will stop there before saying something stupid.
 
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Funny how it went all [crickets chirping] after those Mike Anderson zingers...

If you're referring to anything Mike said to me, well, know that Mike and I spent a season together on the road and like to fire barbs for our own amusement. :)

GFM
 
Re: UAH Hockey 2012-13: Still breathing

I haven't seen much about this weekends series against Northeastern (currently 6th in Hockey East). Northeastern is having a rough year but UAH is having a much rougher year. Northeastern only has 2 wins this season (2-4-1) but one of those was a 3-1 victory over the current USCHO #1 ranked Boston College Eagles (#3 on Krach). UAH has, as we know, come up short against all opponents excepting the toying around with the Crimson Tide club team. [As an aside, all these road series losses (SCSU, StL, Bentley(1), AIC(1)), make that home series against 'Sota State seem like a very long time ago. Plus, in the home series against the Mavs the Chargers showed potential which hasn't been replicated consistently.]

ESPN Streak For the Cash picks for this series...
[For Friday]
NCAA D1 Hockey (Mens) (UAH at Northeastern) :What will be the match result?
Northeastern wins by 4 goals or more
Any Other Result

[For the Series]
NCAA D1 Hockey (Mens) (UAH at Northeastern) :Which will have a higher total?
Northeastern winning margin on Friday
Northeastern winning margin on Saturday or tie

The Friday pick looks tricky. UAH is setting a pattern of playing worse on Fridays rather that Saturdays. So the Friday game will probably result in the more lopsided loss (going with Northeastern winning margin on Friday for the second pick). Notwithstanding the win against BC, Northeastern has the following (Using Krach rankings): wins against #4 and #19, draw against #3 and losses to #4, #3, #19, #19). For UAH it looks like (again with Krach): draw against #35, losses to #35, #11, #11, #48, #43, #8, #8)...I'll go Northeastern wins by 4 goals or more for Friday but then UAH tightens it up for Saturday. Apparently the Chargers give up an average of ~4.8 goals per game.
 
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I haven't seen much about this weekends series against Northeastern (currently 6th in Hockey East). Northeastern is having a rough year but UAH is having a much rougher year. Northeastern only has 2 wins this season (2-4-1) but one of those was a 3-1 victory over the current USCHO #1 ranked Boston College Eagles (#3 on Krach). UAH has, as we know, come up short against all opponents excepting the toying around with the Crimson Tide club team. [As an aside, all these road series losses (SCSU, StL, Bentley(1), AIC(1)), make that home series against 'Sota State seem like a very long time ago. Plus, in the home series against the Mavs the Chargers showed potential which hasn't been replicated consistently.]

ESPN Streak For the Cash picks for this series...
[For Friday]
NCAA D1 Hockey (Mens) (UAH at Northeastern) :What will be the match result?
Northeastern wins by 4 goals or more
Any Other Result

[For the Series]
NCAA D1 Hockey (Mens) (UAH at Northeastern) :Which will have a higher total?
Northeastern winning margin on Friday
Northeastern winning margin on Saturday or tie

The Friday pick looks tricky. UAH is setting a pattern of playing worse on Fridays rather that Saturdays. So the Friday game will probably result in the more lopsided loss (going with Northeastern winning margin on Friday for the second pick). Notwithstanding the win against BC, Northeastern has the following (Using Krach rankings): wins against #4 and #19, draw against #3 and losses to #4, #3, #19, #19). For UAH it looks like (again with Krach): draw against #35, losses to #35, #11, #11, #48, #43, #8, #8)...I'll go Northeastern wins by 4 goals or more for Friday but then UAH tightens it up for Saturday. Apparently the Chargers give up an average of ~4.8 goals per game.

No way the Chargers lose tonight! Guaranteed!

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It's a Saturday-Sunday series. :p
 
Re: UAH Hockey 2012-13: Still breathing

With all this discussion of traveling to UAH for nWCHA or AHA teams, I have been wondering how UAH gets to all these away series. Do they fly or ride the bus normally? For instance, to SCSU, StL and Bentley/AIC how did they travel to those locales?

cpp
 
Re: UAH Hockey 2012-13: Still breathing

With all this discussion of traveling to UAH for nWCHA or AHA teams, I have been wondering how UAH gets to all these away series. Do they fly or ride the bus normally? For instance, to SCSU, StL and Bentley/AIC how did they travel to those locales?

cpp

They've flown everywhere save St. Lawrence, which was a 22-hour bus trip. It was more expensive to fly to Canton than to drive, even though that's on the far outside of what we typically bus. Usually anything <=18 gets a bus.

Typically we bus to the old CCHA schools and the western half of AHA and fly everywhere else. In the nWCHA, we'd fly to both Alaska schools and both Minnesota schools (although Mankato may be a bus trip) and would bus to the UP, BG, and Ferris.

GFM
 
They've flown everywhere save St. Lawrence, which was a 22-hour bus trip. It was more expensive to fly to Canton than to drive, even though that's on the far outside of what we typically bus. Usually anything <=18 gets a bus.

Typically we bus to the old CCHA schools and the western half of AHA and fly everywhere else. In the nWCHA, we'd fly to both Alaska schools and both Minnesota schools (although Mankato may be a bus trip) and would bus to the UP, BG, and Ferris.

GFM

Yeesh. Ya, it is a major PITA to get to Canton. Probably have to fly into Syracuse, NY, then it is still a 2+ hour bus ride to Canton.

I know I mentioned it over on our thread, but I hope SLU reciprocates next year. We usually do for non conference games, but who knows. If they do and I'm not working on the tugboat, I will definitely make a point of coming up to Huntsville from Tampa. Ironically, the boat I'm on goes up to Decatur regularly.
 
Re: UAH Hockey 2012-13: Still breathing

For completeness: based on past experiences, we'll bus to Lake State and UNO, Wisco and Penn State, Minny for the Mariucci, and fly to Duluth.

GFM
 
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Just got through watching the vidstream of the Northeastern-UAH game. Only one comment: your guys didn't match up with our guys in terms of hockey pedigree, experience, size, and almost any other metric you want to throw out there. But your guys also didn't quit and that says a lot about a team. Good luck the rest of the way.

I don't know if NU does a return visit next year but if it does, I'll be checking airfares to Huntsville.
 
Re: UAH Hockey 2012-13: Still breathing

Gruehl looked pretty good, and he's got a .944 and 1.82 in 99 minutes played. I think he's going to get another start against Lake State unless Kleinendorst takes Groh as his caddy, which would make sense given the rotation.

GFM
 
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Gruehl looked pretty good, and he's got a .944 and 1.82 in 99 minutes played. I think he's going to get another start against Lake State unless Kleinendorst takes Groh as his caddy, which would make sense given the rotation.

GFM

So from here on out Griggs will go one game and than alternating between Gruehl or Groh? Groh hasn't started yet, so this would be different.
 
Re: UAH Hockey 2012-13: Still breathing

I listened to the Laker Hockey Show this evening and Jim Roque mentioned that he talked to Bob Daniels this past weekend about the UAH situation and both are very supportive of UAH getting into the nWCHA. Roque also said a big plus to that would be having two 5 team divisions which would allow the nWCHA to cut down on Alaska travel somewhat for the lower 48 schools. I thought I heard him say they were hoping UAH might be submitting an application to the nWCHA in January, but am unsure about that (distractions in the house).
 
Re: UAH Hockey 2012-13: Still breathing

I listened to the Laker Hockey Show this evening and Jim Roque mentioned that he talked to Bob Daniels this past weekend about the UAH situation and both are very supportive of UAH getting into the nWCHA. Roque also said a big plus to that would be having two 5 team divisions which would allow the nWCHA to cut down on Alaska travel somewhat for the lower 48 schools. I thought I heard him say they were hoping UAH might be submitting an application to the nWCHA in January, but am unsure about that (distractions in the house).

Our approach on the five-team stuff is what we're banging on pretty hard.

So from here on out Griggs will go one game and than alternating between Gruehl or Groh? Groh hasn't started yet, so this would be different.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Gregg get the Friday start in the Soo. He's earned it. I'm not sure who he'll carry with him on the bus—I think there's room to carry all three if they don't mind being less a skater. I would expect that it will be just Gruehl and Griggs, though.

GFM <-- just going to start call them JG31, CJG32, and GG35 and be done with it.
 
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What happens if Bowling Green jumps to Atlantic Hockey? Could it derail plans for UAH to get to the nWCHA?

Nothing good for UAH and yes.

From the UAH perspective the two are intertwined. UAH benefits from BG being in the nWCHA to create the 'odd number of teams' problem which UAH can solve. If the problem does not exist, since BG goes to the AHA, then the solution may not be needed. That being said, the nWCHA did create this problem (odd number of teams) once by inviting BG into the fold to start, with no direct plan to get UAH on board also, so maybe things will work anyway.

It is reassuring to hear about Bemidji, Mankato, LSSU and Ferris State all saying good things about UAH joining. The *real* trick is how each school votes when/if that time comes. As an aside, how would that vote work? It would be the planned nWCHA schools voting not the current set, correct?

UAH seems focused on trying to get into the nWCHA. Presumably some discussion or analysis has gone on with trying to join the AHA but from all appearances that I have seen UAH does not have a backup-date for the prom at this time.

Skate on.
cpp
 
Re: UAH Hockey 2012-13: Still breathing

Nothing good for UAH and yes.

From the UAH perspective the two are intertwined. UAH benefits from BG being in the nWCHA to create the 'odd number of teams' problem which UAH can solve. If the problem does not exist, since BG goes to the AHA, then the solution may not be needed. That being said, the nWCHA did create this problem (odd number of teams) once by inviting BG into the fold to start, with no direct plan to get UAH on board also, so maybe things will work anyway.

It is reassuring to hear about Bemidji, Mankato, LSSU and Ferris State all saying good things about UAH joining. The *real* trick is how each school votes when/if that time comes. As an aside, how would that vote work? It would be the planned nWCHA schools voting not the current set, correct?

UAH seems focused on trying to get into the nWCHA. Presumably some discussion or analysis has gone on with trying to join the AHA but from all appearances that I have seen UAH does not have a backup-date for the prom at this time.

Skate on.
cpp

I don't see Bowling Green going to the AHA. Maybe that's just me. I think they'd much rather the WCHA accept UAH than leave. Or, if the WCHA says no to us, I think the chance BGSU leaves the WCHA increases. That's my guess.

The vote would be among the nine nWCHA schools. Three-fourths vote in the affirmative would be needed (that's what it took for Bemidji and Omaha to get in), so seven of nine.

WCHA is the No. 1 priority. I'd think if the WCHA did say no we'd still talk to Atlantic Hockey, as we've done too much in the past 11 months since the program was resurrected to not at least explore that avenue. But right now, it's all in on the WCHA. First thing's first.
 
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