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Trouble at Boston Marathon?

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dxmnkd316 said:
I'm not sure if you posted this in jest or not, but using anything that's affiliated with Alex Jones as a source is laughable. This is the same Alex Jones who on Twitter yesterday said the FBI was involved in this bombing.
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Someone neg repped me with this in response to this post:
If you want propaganda news, move to North Korea.
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I don't know who neg repped me, but if you honestly buy into any of the drivel that Alex Jones spews, you've lost all credibility. Hilarious.
 
dxmnkd316 said:
Someone neg repped me with this in response to this post:


I don't know who neg repped me, but if you honestly buy into any of the drivel that Alex Jones spews, you've lost all credibility. Hilarious.
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Alex jones is a sick man... The only thing he got right in recent memory is his clowning of Piers Morgan
 
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Patman said:
Alex jones is a sick man... The only thing he got right in recent memory is his clowning of Piers Morgan
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If the internet and Alex Jones were around in the 60's, we'd know who killed Kennedy, and no one would have died because of it. Dorothy Kilgallen's life would have been spared.
 
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The AP tweeted that the bombs were pressure cookers filled with ball bearings and other pieces of metal.
 
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Saw a story that one of the three dead was a woman who had a boyfriend prepared to propose at the finish line. If that's true that's so absolutely sickening.
 
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Some official word instead of fevered speculation:

No one was in custody, Boston Police Commissioner Edward Davis said Tuesday. But officials said they know of no other imminent threats related to the explosions Monday.

"Two and only two explosive devices were found yesterday," said Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick at a news conference Tuesday morning. "All other parcels in the area of the blast have been examined, but there are no other unexploded bombs found."

The explosives were contained in 6-liter pressure cookers and hidden in black duffel bags on the ground, a person briefed on the investigation told the Associated Press on Tuesday. One of the explosives contained shards of metal and ball bearings, and another contained nails, the person said.

Mr. Davis said the course was swept for explosives Monday, early in the morning and an hour before the first runner crossed the finish line. But he said that didn't preclude someone from planting devices after the last sweep. No unexploded devices were found after the blasts, officials said, though they did investigate some suspicious items that didn't turn out to be dangerous.

The tally of those injured in the bombings increased to 176, with 17 in critical condition and three dead, police said.
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dxmnkd316 said:
I think you need to cool it on the photography front. There's not a lot else he could do. It's his job to document the incident as it plays out. I'll say the same thing I posted on GPL:

Warning: Some graphic pictures (most are hidden behind a warning) but the story is worth reading:
http://lightbox.time.com/2013/04/15/tra ... account/#1

I think it's important for the scenes to be captured. The same reason we have wartime photographers embedded with troops. The stories need to be told.

I vaguely remember walking through a memorial in the Newseum in DC dedicated to the media who had lost their lives in conflicts throughout the world. I remember coming into the building asking myself "Why would anyone put their life on the line for a picture or a story?" It was quite obvious after leaving that building why. Because the stories need to be told. I would highly recommend touring this building if you visit DC.
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No I don't. I have no issue with someone documenting a war or a car crash or a burning building. And usually there is a clear line between those helping and those documenting; the firemen don't want the news cameraman trying to carry hoses.

I believe that in the immediate aftermath of a disaster, to focus more on pictures and walking away than you would on helping the people injured or trying to rescue is not covered in some kind of "I'm just documenting" get out of jail free card.

What was he documenting? This isn't proving the atrocities of Pol Pot or Chernobyl. This isn't documenting the horrors of war or the starvation in Somalia. This is leaning over the fence, shooting pictures of maimed or deceased people and then walking away.

You can have your sense of ethics, and I'll have mine.
 
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pirate said:
No I don't. I have no issue with someone documenting a war or a car crash or a burning building. And usually there is a clear line between those helping and those documenting; the firemen don't want the news cameraman trying to carry hoses.

I believe that in the immediate aftermath of a disaster, to focus more on pictures and walking away than you would on helping the people injured or trying to rescue is not covered in some kind of "I'm just documenting" get out of jail free card.

What was he documenting? This isn't proving the atrocities of Pol Pot or Chernobyl. This isn't documenting the horrors of war or the starvation in Somalia. This is leaning over the fence, shooting pictures of maimed or deceased people and then walking away.

You can have your sense of ethics, and I'll have mine.
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So you didn't read the article I linked.
 
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All are safe here in my household... some scary moments though as my wife and a couple of friends were volunteers at the medical tent. She is shaken up but OK. Needless to say the medical staff volunteers got and saw a lot more than they signed up for.
 
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8-year old Martin Richard is a victim of this senseless tragedy.

The second victim to have died is identified as 29-year old Krystale Campbell

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Joe Andruzzi carries a victim of the attack to receive medical attention.
 
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I have a feeling that when the investigation runs its course we're going to find out this was an act of domestic terrorism, as opposed to Islamic terrorism.....I'm not sure why I have that feeling but it just doesn't feel right for Islamic terrorism. It seems like it was set up to look like that, but I have my doubts. Obviously its too early for anyone in our positions to know for sure.
 
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bigblue_dl said:
I have a feeling that when the investigation runs its course we're going to find out this was an act of domestic terrorism, as opposed to Islamic terrorism.....I'm not sure why I have that feeling but it just doesn't feel right for Islamic terrorism. It seems like it was set up to look like that, but I have my doubts. Obviously its too early for anyone in our positions to know for sure.
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It certainly seems Islamic groups are quick to claim credit right after an attack occurs, and no one seems to be rushing to do that. Of course, that doesn't preclude anything; to me it would make strategic sense not to claim credit, since people not knowing who you are would make it easier to attack again without being noticed, rather than fixing a large target on your group by claiming credit. Of course this is all speculation and none of us are doing anything more than guessing.
 
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bigblue_dl said:
I have a feeling that when the investigation runs its course we're going to find out this was an act of domestic terrorism, as opposed to Islamic terrorism.....I'm not sure why I have that feeling but it just doesn't feel right for Islamic terrorism. It seems like it was set up to look like that, but I have my doubts. Obviously its too early for anyone in our positions to know for sure.
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Totally agree with you. Except the setting up to look like that. What makes you think that? I didn't see/hear/read anything that would lead me to believe that. I think it's late teen/early 20s person/persons. Any international terrorists would have been much worse, imho. Also, don't they tend to say "Yeah, we did that!!" There has been nothing like that with this.
 
bigblue_dl said:
I have a feeling that when the investigation runs its course we're going to find out this was an act of domestic terrorism, as opposed to Islamic terrorism.....I'm not sure why I have that feeling but it just doesn't feel right for Islamic terrorism. It seems like it was set up to look like that, but I have my doubts. Obviously its too early for anyone in our positions to know for sure.
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There's been enough history to suggest that either way it doesn't pan out right away.

I saw one statement saying the design was reminiscent of one proposed in an AQ magazine.

The other thing to notice is that nobody is claiming responsibility. That certainly means a good chance it's a lone wolf or a group still in the operation phase. Then again, are we comfortable in viewing Islamist terrorism done by Americans to be domestic terrorism.

It'll be interesting to see if whomever did it is willing to settle at just this. These are usually done to draw attention at some level so there is the potential for more subject to the person thinking they can get away with it. I suppose it comes down to the patience of the individual who committed the act
 
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French Rage said:
It certainly seems Islamic groups are quick to claim credit right after an attack occurs, and no one seems to be rushing to do that.
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One thing is new about the response. The Council for American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) which typically is an apologist for those poor Middle Eastern Muslims suffering from unbearable envy, this time at least was clear-cut and emphatic: there is nothing whatsoever in Islam or the Quran that can possibly justify violence aimed directly at children and civilians.

I heard a spokesperson reading a statement on the radio.

I found this article in a subsequent search:

In a statement, CAIR National Executive Director Nihad Awad said:

"American Muslims, like Americans of all backgrounds, condemn in the strongest possible terms today's cowardly bomb attack on participants and spectators of the Boston Marathon.

"We urge people of all faiths to pray for the victims and their loved ones and for the speedy recovery of those injured. We also call for the swift apprehension and punishment of the perpetrators.

"While spiritual measures can serve to comfort those in physical and emotional pain, we also call on Muslims and others in the Boston area to donate blood through the Red Cross as a concrete show of support for the bomb attack victims. Those who were participating in the marathon or were watching the event should contact authorities with any potential eyewitness information they may have."
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That one doesn't have the part I heard on the radio, it does however seem to be a shift in tone and emphasis from many of their prior statements.
 
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