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Top 100 Greatest Teams of the NCAA era Tournament

Re: Top 100 Greatest Teams of the NCAA era Tournament

#57 - 1999-2000 North Dakota Fighting Sioux vs. #72 - 2003-2004 Boston College Eagles
March 3, 2013
First Niagara Center - Buffalo, NY

Game Update Post

Starting Goalies:
North Dakota - Karl Goehring
Boston College - Matti Kaltiainen

The teams are just about ready to take the ice for warmups. There's a strong contingent for both sides here at the First Niagara Center, and the atmosphere is just what you'd expect from these two squads meeting up in this tournament. Looking forward to this one...

Teams just went off the ice after the warmup skate. Both sides look fast and full of energy. North Dakota will be wearing the whites, while BC is in maroon.

Teams back out for introductions. Both bands getting their fans to stand up and cheer.

Introductions are done, and singing the National Anthem today, New York's own hit band - Ninedays!!!

Absolutely fantastic performance! The crowd is abuzz and the puck is almost ready to be dropped, let the story of a hockey game commence!

1st Period:
- Puck has dropped! North Dakota going right to left.
- Boston College is all over North Dakota right now. Tony Voce with a great chance, but Goehring was able to get his blocker on it. 18:30 left in the 1st.
- Stephen Gionta is robbed by Goehring! Gionta stole the puck from Travis Roche around center ice and came in on a clean break. His forehand to backhand deke appeared to have Goehring beat, but Karl gets the stick over just in time and he makes the stop. 17:30 left in the 1st.
- Boston College will head to the powerplay, as North Dakota's Mike Commodore gets called for holding as Voce was trying to get out to the crease with the puck. 16:19 left in the 1st.
- Patrick Eaves with a blast that goes just wide! BC cycling the puck on the powerplay, and Eaves gets the puck out to Andrew Alberts who moves to the point, then gets it back to Eaves at the top of the near circle, but Eaves blasts it just wide of the net. About 1:00 left on the powerplay, still 0-0
- North Dakota kills the penalty. Following the Eaves chance, UND is able to clear the zone, and basically keeps the Eagles out from the attacking zone the rest of the powerplay. 14:00 left in the 1st.
- BC still controlling play early on. Shots on Goal are 6-1 for the Eagles.
- BC will head back to the powerplay, this time Gionta gets tripped by Roche at the blue line.
- Goehring comes up with a huge glove save! Alberts drive from the point hits Brian Boyle in the slot, and directs right to Chris Collins in the far circle who rips one high, but Goehring flashes leather to keep this one scoreless. About 30 seconds left on the powerplay.
- Tony Voce scores!! Just as the powerplay ends, Voce gets a feed from Ryan Shannon, and rips a onetimer short side above the blocker for the goal. 1-0 Eagles.
- Following the Eagles goal, there was a lot of neutral zone play, but once again BC was able to get the puck in and start cycling. They generated a nice shot from the point, but it was deflected high and out of play. After the whistle, Mike Commodore gets called for Roughing, and BC will be back on the powerplay with just under 8 left in the 1st.
- North Dakota kills the penalty. Finally, the Sioux seem to have some momentum following that PK where they shut down BC's offensive attack. 5:30 left in the 1st. 1-0 BC.
- Jeff Panzer with a great chance! Panzer comes in with Ulmer and Roche on a 3x2, and Ulmer fires a pass from circle to circle over to Ulmer who fires it, but Matti makes a nice blocker save. Still 1-0 with 3:30 left in the 1st.
- BC will head back to the powerplay for the fourth time this period, and Tim O'Connell gets called for Interference with 2:20 left in the 1st.
- North Dakota does a nice job of killing the penalty, and that's the end of the first period. Boston College leads 1-0.
- Shots on goal in the 1st: BC - 15, UND - 6

2nd Period:
- Puck has dropped to start the 2nd period of play! Boston College up 1-0.
- Oh my...another penalty to North Dakota. Jason Notermann gets called for hooking in the neutral zone just 22 seconds into the 2nd.
- Voce is robbed by Goehring! Andrew Alberts lets a shot fly from the point on the powerplay, and Goehring gets a piece of it. Voce is on top of the rebound, and tries to flick a shot on, but Goehring gets his glove over just in time to keep this one at 1-0. About 1:00 left on the powerplay.
- My oh my...Coach Blais is livid. North Dakota gets called for crosschecking, but it appeared that Gionta was tripped up by his own player. Jason Ulmer will serve the penalty, and BC has a 5x3 for 52 seconds.
- Jason Notermann scores!! Just as Notermann's penalty was ending, Travis Roche got control of the puck and lifted it out of the zone, connecting with Notermann who comes in all alone and roofs a backhander over Matti to tie this game at 1. BC still has 1:02 left on the powerplay.
- North Dakota kills off the penalty, and now has all the momentum. Panzer nearly put the Sioux up 2-1, but his wrister from the near dot was just high. 16:30 left in the 2nd.
- Up and down the ice they go, firewagon hockey! Both teams with lots of speed and decent offensive zone chances, but nothing gets to the net. 15:00 left in the 2nd.
- Panzer gets robbed...by Matti! North Dakota circling the puck in the offensive zone when Ulmer finds a streaking Panzer and fires an across the crease pass that hits Panzer's tape. Panzer's backhand appears destined for the back of the net until Matti gets his stick over just in time to prevent the goal. 13:00 left in the 2nd.
- North Dakota will head to the powerplay for the first time in the game, as Patrick Eaves gets called for embellishment! 12:47 left in the 2nd. 1-1.
- BC with a beautiful PK. North Dakota unable to get anything going in the offensive zone. We're back to 5x5 with just over 10:00 to go in the 2nd.
- Now North Dakota will go back to the powerplay, as Andrew Alberts gets called for interference with 8:06 to play in the 2nd.
- Once again, BC does a tremendous job on the PK, holding UND to zero shots on goal. Just under 6 left in the 2nd. Still 1-1.
- Lots of play in the neutral zone of late, neither side wants to give anything up. 4:00 left in the 2nd.
- There's a spark to this one! Following an offside whistle, Commodore and Alberts get into it, and they'll each take 2 minutes for Roughing. We'll skate 4x4 for awhile. 3:21 left in the 2nd.
- Voce robbed by Goehring! Voce and Shannon come in on a 2x1. Voce whips it over to Shannon who then executes the give and go to perfection by finding Voce all by himself at the far post. Voce tries to tap the puck in, but Goehring dives over just in time to make the save. 2:00 left in the 2nd.
- The matching minors are over, and we're back to full strength. Just over a minute left in the 2nd.
- That's the end of 2. Game tied 1-1.
- Shots on Goal in the 2nd Period: BC - 11 (26 total), UND - 9 (15 total)

3rd Period:
- Can you feel that tension in the air?? The puck has dropped for the third period...
- North Dakota coming out strong to start the 3rd, as Panzer's pass for Goren nearly connects...Goren would have been all by himself
- North Dakota will head back to the powerplay, as Brian Boyle gets called for tripping Jason Notermann in the BC zone. 18:46 left in the 3rd
- Wes Dorey is stonewalled by Matti! North Dakota wins an offensive zone draw, and the Sioux swing it around to the far side where Brad Defauw lets loose a wrister that Matti gets a piece. The rebound finds Dorey's stick who tries to jam it home, but Matti gets his pad over in time to stuff the attempt. Under 1:00 left in the powerplay
- Jeff Panzer scores!! Jason Ulmer keeps BCs clearing attempt in the zone, and finds Panzer at the near dot. Panzer one times the puck just below Matti's blocker for the goal, and North Dakota takes a 2-1 lead on the powerplay score. 16:55 left in the 3rd.
- The Sioux are trying to capitalize on their momentum following the goal, but BC continues to get in their way, redirecting and blocking North Dakota's attempts. 15:30 left in the 3rd.
- Ryan Hale nearly gives the Sioux a 3-1 advantage, but Matti comes up with another critical save in the early part of the third period. 13:30 left in the 3rd.
- Mike Commodore nearly scores, as his blast from the point gets tipped in front of Matti, but goes just wide of the goal. 12:00 left in the 3rd.
- Patrick Eaves scores!! Patrick Eaves crushes home a rebound, after Ben Eaves unleashed a wicked wrister that Goehring got a piece of, but was unable to control. Patrick Eaves then came crashing into the crease, and put the puck in the back of the net to tie this one at 2. 10:08 left in the 3rd.
- Both teams are a little cautious right now, just trying to make sure not to make that crucial mistake. 8:00 left in the 3rd.
- North Dakota will head back to the powerplay! Chris Collins gets called for a slash in the neutral zone, and the Sioux will have the man advantage with 7:08 left in the 3rd.
- Panzer hits the crossbar!! Roche finds Panzer on the doorstep, but his flick over Matti hits the crossbar, and we're still tied at 2. Under 1 minute left on the powerplay.
- BC kills the penalty, but North Dakota has all the momentum right now. 4:30 left in the 3rd.
- Lee Goren Scores!! North Dakota comes in on a 3x2, and Ulmer feeds a drop back pass to Panzer who finds Goren at the near post. Goren slams home the pass and North Dakota takes a 3-2 lead with just 3:00 left in the 3rd.
- Boston College playing all out now, defenders pinching in and getting anything and everything on net. 2:15 left in the 3rd.
- BC draws a penalty! Chris Leinweber is called for tripping with just 1:05 to play in the 3rd.
- BC has called their timeout
- BC has pulled Matti

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Re: Top 100 Greatest Teams of the NCAA era Tournament

Can I add a few comments on how the styles of hockey in the 70's might affect how games are played.?

Back in the late 60's and to the 70's, the reffing was different depending on where you played. the ECAC did not allow much physicality and banging that was quite normal in western hockey was penalized pretty much every time in the east.. So teams on the west, meaning Any thing ccha or wcha today, typically were much more physical, much bigger, and you did not dare as an opponent, go behind the net with the puck. If you did you could expect to really get smacked against the boards. Also defensemen in the west would talk about finishing their checks. This meant a lot of getting close to a forward and holding/ shoving him towards the boards well after the puck had gone.

So the west had an advantage for the most part when any of this was allowed, which was quite often in the ncaa's. I think you'll see the smaller quicker eastern teams typically lost to the western teams up until the mid 80's when reffing became more uniform and the small player could compete.
 
Re: Top 100 Greatest Teams of the NCAA era Tournament

manurespreader said:
Can I add a few comments on how the styles of hockey in the 70's might affect how games are played.?

Back in the late 60's and to the 70's, the reffing was different depending on where you played. the ECAC did not allow much physicality and banging that was quite normal in western hockey was penalized pretty much every time in the east.. So teams on the west, meaning Any thing ccha or wcha today, typically were much more physical, much bigger, and you did not dare as an opponent, go behind the net with the puck. If you did you could expect to really get smacked against the boards. Also defensemen in the west would talk about finishing their checks. This meant a lot of getting close to a forward and holding/ shoving him towards the boards well after the puck had gone.

So the west had an advantage for the most part when any of this was allowed, which was quite often in the ncaa's. I think you'll see the smaller quicker eastern teams typically lost to the western teams up until the mid 80's when reffing became more uniform and the small player could compete.
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This was definitely something that I had to deal with as well. How I overcame the disparities (not so much between different conferences within the same season), was that I looked at the average penalty minutes for the conference, and then how the specific team compared to the rest of their conference. It's certainly not perfect, but it helps keep the field somewhat even when comparing a team from say 1975 and 2010...at least in regards to penalty minutes.
 
Re: Top 100 Greatest Teams of the NCAA era Tournament

Fighting Sioux 23 said:
#57 - 1999-2000 North Dakota Fighting Sioux vs. #72 - 2003-2004 Boston College Eagles
March 3, 2013
First Niagara Center - Buffalo, NY

Game Update Post

3rd Period:
- Can you feel that tension in the air?? The puck has dropped for the third period...
- North Dakota coming out strong to start the 3rd, as Panzer's pass for Goren nearly connects...Goren would have been all by himself
- North Dakota will head back to the powerplay, as Brian Boyle gets called for tripping Jason Notermann in the BC zone. 18:46 left in the 3rd
- Wes Dorey is stonewalled by Matti! North Dakota wins an offensive zone draw, and the Sioux swing it around to the far side where Brad Defauw lets loose a wrister that Matti gets a piece. The rebound finds Dorey's stick who tries to jam it home, but Matti gets his pad over in time to stuff the attempt. Under 1:00 left in the powerplay
- Jeff Panzer scores!! Jason Ulmer keeps BCs clearing attempt in the zone, and finds Panzer at the near dot. Panzer one times the puck just below Matti's blocker for the goal, and North Dakota takes a 2-1 lead on the powerplay score. 16:55 left in the 3rd.
- The Sioux are trying to capitalize on their momentum following the goal, but BC continues to get in their way, redirecting and blocking North Dakota's attempts. 15:30 left in the 3rd.
- Ryan Hale nearly gives the Sioux a 3-1 advantage, but Matti comes up with another critical save in the early part of the third period. 13:30 left in the 3rd.
- Mike Commodore nearly scores, as his blast from the point gets tipped in front of Matti, but goes just wide of the goal. 12:00 left in the 3rd.
- Patrick Eaves scores!! Patrick Eaves crushes home a rebound, after Ben Eaves unleashed a wicked wrister that Goehring got a piece of, but was unable to control. Patrick Eaves then came crashing into the crease, and put the puck in the back of the net to tie this one at 2. 10:08 left in the 3rd.
- Both teams are a little cautious right now, just trying to make sure not to make that crucial mistake. 8:00 left in the 3rd.
- North Dakota will head back to the powerplay! Chris Collins gets called for a slash in the neutral zone, and the Sioux will have the man advantage with 7:08 left in the 3rd.
- Panzer hits the crossbar!! Roche finds Panzer on the doorstep, but his flick over Matti hits the crossbar, and we're still tied at 2. Under 1 minute left on the powerplay.
- BC kills the penalty, but North Dakota has all the momentum right now. 4:30 left in the 3rd.
- Lee Goren Scores!! North Dakota comes in on a 3x2, and Ulmer feeds a drop back pass to Panzer who finds Goren at the near post. Goren slams home the pass and North Dakota takes a 3-2 lead with just 3:00 left in the 3rd.
- Boston College playing all out now, defenders pinching in and getting anything and everything on net. 2:15 left in the 3rd.
- BC draws a penalty! Chris Leinweber is called for tripping with just 1:05 to play in the 3rd.
- BC has called their timeout
- BC has pulled Matti
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- Voce gets stuffed by Goehring! With just 13 seconds left to play, Voce gets the puck below the far circle, and tries to jam one home, but Goehring gets over just in time to make the save.
- That's the game! North Dakota wins it 3-2. BC's last second chance gets blocked by Commodore, and the buzzer rings.
- Shots on Goal in the third: North Dakota - 12 (27 total), BC - 11 (37 total)
- North Dakota will move on to play the #8 seed - 1984-1985 National Champion RPI
 
Fighting Sioux 23 said:
- Voce gets stuffed by Goehring! With just 13 seconds left to play, Voce gets the puck below the far circle, and tries to jam one home, but Goehring gets over just in time to make the save.
- That's the game! North Dakota wins it 3-2. BC's last second chance gets blocked by Commodore, and the buzzer rings.
- Shots on Goal in the third: North Dakota - 12 (27 total), BC - 11 (37 total)
- North Dakota will move on to play the #8 seed - 1984-1985 National Champion RPI
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Bring 'em on!!! Let's go RED!!!
 
Re: Top 100 Greatest Teams of the NCAA era Tournament

Late in the season most NHL fans dream of next year's team matching the 1972 Dolphins. Geriatric/nostalgic college hockey fans instead focus upon sour grapes and trash talk. Maybe if they demanded perfection rater than settle for and celebrate mediocrity their teams would do better.
 
Re: Top 100 Greatest Teams of the NCAA era Tournament

So for those that have been following the tournament, I thought I would give sort of an update on where I see it progressing.

There are still 30 First Round Games left to be played. We've played 6 so far. At this pace, this tournament is likely to stretch through the offseason and into next season. I'm okay with that, but I know some people enjoy having tournaments end in a reasonable time period. The reason why its taking so long is that the updates require me to have about 2-3 hours of time to sit in front of my computer and type out the game updates. That only happens maybe 2-3 times/week. At that pace, it will take anywhere from about 30-45 weeks to finish this tournament up (somewhere around early October to mid January). Now, it's possible that my schedule will allow me to do maybe 5-7 games/week (or perhaps more if I can do more than 1 game/day). In that case, the tournament would probably finish up sometime during July or August. So, I thought about some options, and let me know what you think...

1) Everything stays the same, and the tournament will get done when it gets done.

2) I get some help from some of the posters around here. Basically, I would send the "box score" sheet out to those people helping me, and we could have a group do game reports. I would probably need to explain how to interpret the "box score" as well, so it may involve either some email communication back and forth or a phone call (or two). This way, we could probably get 7-10 games done in a week, and the tournament would be done sometime in June.

3) I shorten my updates, and basically post everything all at once. This would probably be done in a quasi-journalistic manner. This would allow me to do the write-up, and then just post it for everyone to read. There would be no pseudo-play by play, but it would probably allow the process to be done sometime towards the end of the summer (I would shoot for August).

4) I simply post the box score. Similar to option 3, you would simply get to look at a box score. This would be the quickest option for me, as I would basically just need to translate the "box score" that I get into the type of box score that we all recognize. I could probably post anywhere from 5-10 of these per week, and the tournament would be done early in the summer most likely.

5) Some other option that you suggest.

Anyway, let me know what your thoughts are. Until a path has been chosen (or we stay on the same path), I'll continue to post games as I have.

The next game will be Wednesday. It will see the 1988-1989 Harvard Crimson (#35) take on the 2006-2007 Boston College Eagles (#94).
 
Re: Top 100 Greatest Teams of the NCAA era Tournament

Fighting Sioux 23 said:
So for those that have been following the tournament, I thought I would give sort of an update on where I see it progressing.

There are still 30 First Round Games left to be played. We've played 6 so far. At this pace, this tournament is likely to stretch through the offseason and into next season. I'm okay with that, but I know some people enjoy having tournaments end in a reasonable time period. The reason why its taking so long is that the updates require me to have about 2-3 hours of time to sit in front of my computer and type out the game updates. That only happens maybe 2-3 times/week. At that pace, it will take anywhere from about 30-45 weeks to finish this tournament up (somewhere around early October to mid January). Now, it's possible that my schedule will allow me to do maybe 5-7 games/week (or perhaps more if I can do more than 1 game/day). In that case, the tournament would probably finish up sometime during July or August. So, I thought about some options, and let me know what you think...

1) Everything stays the same, and the tournament will get done when it gets done.

2) I get some help from some of the posters around here. Basically, I would send the "box score" sheet out to those people helping me, and we could have a group do game reports. I would probably need to explain how to interpret the "box score" as well, so it may involve either some email communication back and forth or a phone call (or two). This way, we could probably get 7-10 games done in a week, and the tournament would be done sometime in June.

3) I shorten my updates, and basically post everything all at once. This would probably be done in a quasi-journalistic manner. This would allow me to do the write-up, and then just post it for everyone to read. There would be no pseudo-play by play, but it would probably allow the process to be done sometime towards the end of the summer (I would shoot for August).

4) I simply post the box score. Similar to option 3, you would simply get to look at a box score. This would be the quickest option for me, as I would basically just need to translate the "box score" that I get into the type of box score that we all recognize. I could probably post anywhere from 5-10 of these per week, and the tournament would be done early in the summer most likely.

5) Some other option that you suggest.

Anyway, let me know what your thoughts are. Until a path has been chosen (or we stay on the same path), I'll continue to post games as I have.

The next game will be Wednesday. It will see the 1988-1989 Harvard Crimson (#35) take on the 2006-2007 Boston College Eagles (#94).
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#1 for me, no contest. I do not care about the pace because I enjoy reading your game updates since they make the games seem so real. That, and I always enjoy a few outrageous Osorojo posts (redundant, I know), especially during summer time when the board slows down.
 
Re: Top 100 Greatest Teams of the NCAA era Tournament

Fighting Sioux 23 said:
So for those that have been following the tournament, I thought I would give sort of an update on where I see it progressing.

There are still 30 First Round Games left to be played. We've played 6 so far. At this pace, this tournament is likely to stretch through the offseason and into next season. I'm okay with that, but I know some people enjoy having tournaments end in a reasonable time period. The reason why its taking so long is that the updates require me to have about 2-3 hours of time to sit in front of my computer and type out the game updates. That only happens maybe 2-3 times/week. At that pace, it will take anywhere from about 30-45 weeks to finish this tournament up (somewhere around early October to mid January). Now, it's possible that my schedule will allow me to do maybe 5-7 games/week (or perhaps more if I can do more than 1 game/day). In that case, the tournament would probably finish up sometime during July or August. So, I thought about some options, and let me know what you think...

1) Everything stays the same, and the tournament will get done when it gets done.

2) I get some help from some of the posters around here. Basically, I would send the "box score" sheet out to those people helping me, and we could have a group do game reports. I would probably need to explain how to interpret the "box score" as well, so it may involve either some email communication back and forth or a phone call (or two). This way, we could probably get 7-10 games done in a week, and the tournament would be done sometime in June.

3) I shorten my updates, and basically post everything all at once. This would probably be done in a quasi-journalistic manner. This would allow me to do the write-up, and then just post it for everyone to read. There would be no pseudo-play by play, but it would probably allow the process to be done sometime towards the end of the summer (I would shoot for August).

4) I simply post the box score. Similar to option 3, you would simply get to look at a box score. This would be the quickest option for me, as I would basically just need to translate the "box score" that I get into the type of box score that we all recognize. I could probably post anywhere from 5-10 of these per week, and the tournament would be done early in the summer most likely.

5) Some other option that you suggest.

Anyway, let me know what your thoughts are. Until a path has been chosen (or we stay on the same path), I'll continue to post games as I have.

The next game will be Wednesday. It will see the 1988-1989 Harvard Crimson (#35) take on the 2006-2007 Boston College Eagles (#94).
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I like your enthusiasm and attention to detail. For myself, I generally skip past the play-by-play to see who won but that's [one of] my own peculiarit[<strike>y</strike>ies]. I can tell people who knew the teams and players would probably enjoy the play-by-play as it brings images and memories to mind.

So, I'd vote for # 4 then # 1 and be completely okay if # 1 was the consensus favorite.

Either give us the winners; or give us the details, in other words. Thanks again. :)

Some of us [ahem] actually did learn critical reading skills. I think it had less to do with where one went to school and more to do with when one went to school, although that is a subjective judgment based on personal anecdotal experience.
 
Fighting Sioux 23 said:
#62 - 2001-2002 New Hampshire Wildcats vs. #67 - 1994-1995 Michigan Wolverines
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That really doesn't surprise me that the simulator had Haydar at the end. Watching the few years he's played in the AHL for the Chicago Wolves, he's the AHL's Pavel Datsyuk.

I'll never forget the GWG he scored with 0.1 on the clock for the Wolves. What a fun player to watch.
 
Re: Top 100 Greatest Teams of the NCAA era Tournament

I lean towards #1 as I appreciate the quality of your write-ups. Worth the wait from my point of view. Admittedly, I don't read all the detail in every game, but do if I know one of the teams.
 
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First of all, Awesome concept and thread (as usual) FS23. Can't wait to see a program take on itself down the road.

I think #1 or #3 is fine. Skimmed through all 6 pages today, paying more attention to some of the games where I knew the teams better. May I suggest highlighting the scoring plays, so those of us skimming through can get a better sense of the score and players on some of the teams.
 
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