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The States: Where We Wish Texas Would Secede Already

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Handyman said:
https://twitter.com/NoLieWithBTC/status/1520800004776022021
NEW: Texas is now losing out on a rail line from Mexico because of Greg Abbott’s border stunt— Mexico’s Economy Minister said, “We’re now not going to use Texas. We can’t leave all the eggs in one basket and be hostages to someone who wants to use trade as a political tool.”
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I have some bad news for him about Arizona.

I guess there's New Mexico, but midway up the state the line has to turn and run through TX or AZ, otherwise the mountains are in the way.
 
rufus said:
So why'd you say the out of state money was the reason?

As was said, you'll say one thing, but then go out of your way to not vote for the Democrat, because.....reasons. Even if you have to make those reasons up.
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If Gideon had had grass roots support, won the primary, and then the big money started flowing in that would have been one thing. She was anointed by the powers that be long before primary season even kicked off. I can see why she might have appealed to folks from out of state but she was horrible candidate who never really had much chance even with unlimited resources.

Collins has been a great senator for Maine even if she doesn’t appeal to the fringes of either party.
 
Drew S. said:
Collins has been a great senator for Maine even if she doesn’t appeal to the fringes of either party.
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The "fringes" are people who want to keep abortion safe and legal for women. About 70% of the US population. And when the woman's life is in danger. About 90% of the US population.

That dog won't hunt, Drew. Collins is an ordinary Republican who uses hypocritical rhetoric to try to detoxify herself with centrists. She's worse than Ted Cruz who at least has convictions even if they are insane.
 
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Kepler said:
The "fringes" are people who want to keep abortion safe and legal for women. About 70% of the US population. And when the woman's life is in danger. About 90% of the US population.

That dog won't hunt, Drew. Collins is an ordinary Republican who uses hypocritical rhetoric to try to detoxify herself with centrists. She's worse than Ted Cruz who at least has convictions even if they are insane.
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I couldn’t have said it better. What a laughable statement from drew
 
Kepler said:
The "fringes" are people who want to keep abortion safe and legal for women. About 70% of the US population. And when the woman's life is in danger. About 90% of the US population.

That dog won't hunt, Drew. Collins is an ordinary Republican who uses hypocritical rhetoric to try to detoxify herself with centrists. She's worse than Ted Cruz who at least has convictions even if they are insane.
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It was people from the right protesting her over the weekend not the left.
 
Kepler said:
I have some bad news for him about Arizona.

I guess there's New Mexico, but midway up the state the line has to turn and run through TX or AZ, otherwise the mountains are in the way.
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It's going to New Mexico and they don't seem worried about it.
 
Drew S. said:
It was people from the right protesting her over the weekend not the left.
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Again, you don’t get to lament democracy and vote for Susan Collins at the same time. The fact you never respond to that point is telling, since more than a few of us have made it. Sara Gideon stood, and still stands, for more of what you purportedly hold dear than Susan Collins ever has, or ever will. Your claim to care about the candidate, not the party when you vote seems to be refuted by yourself when you say you voted against Gideon because she was anointed by party insiders with their outsider money. You know, as if that doesn’t happen in 99.9% of federal elections in America.
 
Drew S. said:
It was people from the right protesting her over the weekend not the left.
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Yes, there is always someone farther out on the tail. The GOP is 6 standard deviations to the right of the historical American mean, and the Democrats are 1 standard deviation to the right of that norm. There is no choice -- there is one political weak sauce middling centrist party vs one fascist organization.
 
Handyman said:
It's going to New Mexico and they don't seem worried about it.
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I'm not too sure what this project even is, but I'm puzzled about how it is that it's Mexico that gets to decide where a railroad line will be located in the U.S. I think the location of railroad lines is a pretty complicated process. I had some problems with a railroad one time and I seem to recall that it involved the Surface Transportation Board, along with the State government.
 
Drew S. said:
I really don’t understand why younger voters are so negative when it comes to Biden. Is it student loans or something more?
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Relentless misinformation from propagandists enabled by people who vote for Susan Collins.

Look in the mirror, Concern Bro.
 
SJHovey said:
I'm not too sure what this project even is, but I'm puzzled about how it is that it's Mexico that gets to decide where a railroad line will be located in the U.S. I think the location of railroad lines is a pretty complicated process. I had some problems with a railroad one time and I seem to recall that it involved the Surface Transportation Board, along with the State government.
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They get to decide where the border crossing is on their side. If New Mexico wants it, then nothing Texas can do about it.
 
unofan said:
They get to decide where the border crossing is on their side. If New Mexico wants it, then nothing Texas can do about it.
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Yeah, that's great. Except there aren't any US lines that go down to the Mexican border in New Mexico, or any lines in Mexico that go up to the New Mexico border, unlike Texas where BNSF, Union Pacific and the Kansas Southern all operate.
 
SJHovey said:
Yeah, that's great. Except there aren't any US lines that go down to the Mexican border in New Mexico, or any lines in Mexico that go up to the New Mexico border, unlike Texas where BNSF, Union Pacific and the Kansas Southern all operate.
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I bet if you think about it you can figure it out. Here is a clue...add the word "yet".

Texas nedded this to beef up funding for their dilapidated rail lines. That is now dead. New Mexico now has the ability to raise funds for it or get federal money. Abbot, again, cost Texas jobs and money.
 
Handyman said:
I bet if you think about it you can figure it out. Here is a clue...add the word "yet".

Texas nedded this to beef up funding for their dilapidated rail lines. That is now dead. New Mexico now has the ability to raise funds for it or get federal money. Abbot, again, cost Texas jobs and money.
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None of that makes any sense.

First, Texas doesn't have "dilapidated rail lines." They don't have any rail lines at all. Rail lines are privately owned.

Second, do you think Union Pacific or some company that actually owns rail lines is going to spend hundreds of millions of dollars (or more likely, billions of dollars) to build new lines in New Mexico just because the Governor of Texas and the President of Mexico are in some political pizzing match? When was the last time you actually saw a new rail line constructed? I'm not talking about a few miles of street car lines like in the Twin Cities. I'm talking about honest to good rail lines, where you are driving across that countryside and thought, "huh, when did they put those rail lines in?" I'm going with "never." Not when they already have perfectly good, working rail lines to and from Mexico already in place.

Third, have you ever seen where trains enter the country from Mexico? This isn't like crossing the Canadian border in Pembina, ND in your '14 Camry. They have a giant, secure area, fenced in, well lit, where the trains are brought in and stopped. The Border Patrol then does a close inspection. Then the railroad security does an inspection. The frigging trains are x-rayed from front to back. Thermal imaging is then used. Finally, they run through the dogs.

You think they're going to set up one of these complexes on the border in New Mexico, a state that doesn't even have a town of 50 residents on its border, when they already have perfectly good security complexes (and people to work them) in actual cities elsewhere?

Here is what this smells like to me, although honestly I have no working knowledge of Mexican politics. This smells like a situation where the President of Mexico promised a "train to Winnipeg" (I don't know, maybe like a border wall), and is now going to use this to derail (pun intended) a plan that was never going to happen.
 
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