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The States: Where We Wish Texas Would Secede Already

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aparch said:
No, this happens *every* year when a state has a "once in a xx decades" storm affects the region, despite there being advance notice and residents told to prepare for it. Then the agencies/leadership will say that they cannot commit resources to these events because "they're so rare," and deflect that they'll do better next time.

Lather, rinse, repeat.
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The City of Atlanta are experts at this to the point that people who live there just expect it. Any snow? Everything's closed.
 
To be fair, a politician in Georgia or any other non-snow state suggesting they spend tax dollars on snow removal equipment in sufficient numbers to actually clear snow in a reasonable time frame (when it will undoubtedly melt by the following day), is a politician that won't stay in office long.
 
Swansong said:
To be fair, a politician in Georgia or any other non-snow state suggesting they spend tax dollars on snow removal equipment in sufficient numbers to actually clear snow in a reasonable time frame (when it will undoubtedly melt by the following day), is a politician that won't stay in office long.
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This is Virginia, they have snow removal in Virginia. It snows in Virginia. This isn't Atlanta.
 
ScoobyDoo said:
Stuck for 15 hours on a freeway? Running out of gas, food, and heat? BS.
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It sucks but it does happen, everywhere. And I'm not very surprised here where people are incapable of taking moderate precautions for snow driving. They either creep along at 2 mph (in which case don't leave home you eejits) or they haul as-s the instant the slush breaks (right onto a slate of black ice).
 
Swansong said:
To be fair, a politician in Georgia or any other non-snow state suggesting they spend tax dollars on snow removal equipment in sufficient numbers to actually clear snow in a reasonable time frame (when it will undoubtedly melt by the following day), is a politician that won't stay in office long.
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When Atlanta had their ice storm of 2011 that shut down the city for a day, Georgia DOT tried to get ahead of the storm by contacting the Georgia DNR asking for snow plow vehicles from the NE side of the state to help out, and Tennesee DOT/DNR with available plow equipment.

Only, they staged all the snow removal equipment IN the NE part of the state, so when the storm hit Atlanta, they had problems getting the equipment into the city.

*edit* Then, the same thing happened in 2014, only this time the city said they "had doubled the efforts" from 2011, only to find that they were unprepared for the shift in the snowstorm (that many local meteorologists predicted).
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
This is Virginia, they have snow removal in Virginia. It snows in Virginia. This isn't Atlanta.
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The DC area always does horribly with snow. Part of it is the weatherpeople always somehow missing the big storms. Part of is, as Kepler said, is people not knowing how to drive. Trust us, being shocked at how much the city shuts down for a handleable storm anywhere else is not going to change.
 
The hardest hit area in Virginia got 14+ inches of snow (if I saw the Twitter reports correctly). Even many northern states would have trouble keeping up with that.

Motorists were warned of the incoming snow. They chose to travel in those conditions anyway.
 
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Spartanforlife4 said:
It’s been a strange descent the last couple years for Nate. About two months into the pandemic he decided to become an expert in epidemiology and ever since it’s been, “I am so smart! S-M-R-T!”
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Yeah it is interesting...sometimes I think he is having some sort of slow burn psychotic break. Then again I think most stats nerds do at some point. Their overinflated need to quantify everything overrides the part of their brain that understands Heisenberg. They are the guy at Cal Tech who spends all day trying to find the pattern in how pigeons eat. The NFL is about 5 years away from that...
 
aparch said:
The hardest hit area in Virginia got 14+ inches of snow (if I saw the Twitter reports correctly). Even many northern states would have trouble keeping up with that.

Motorists were warned of the incoming snow. They chose to travel in those conditions anyway.
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"I know how to drive in snow, it's all the other drivers who don't" is always the mentality.
 
aparch said:
The hardest hit area in Virginia got 14+ inches of snow (if I saw the Twitter reports correctly). Even many northern states would have trouble keeping up with that.

Motorists were warned of the incoming snow. They chose to travel in those conditions anyway.
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Yeah I don't know what Scooby is going on about...even here anything over an inch and the top news story is "200 accidents reported by MNDOT" and "traffic was held up for hours because some truckdriver jacknifed". 15 hours is pretty ridiculous but if something like that happened in many parts of Minnesota/Wisconsin/Iowa it could be many hours before things get going again.
 
It happens all the time in Colorado, Wyoming, Utah, and parts of California. Sometimes, even with warning, things go south faster than expected and can't keep up.
 
Proud2baLaker said:
It happens all the time in Colorado, Wyoming, and parts of California. Sometimes, even with warning, things go south faster than expected and can't keep up.
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Oh, the Lake Tahoe snowstorm from last weekend? I'm still seeing TikToks of cars buried along the highway to the ski resorts.
 
French Rage said:
The DC area always does horribly with snow. Part of it is the weatherpeople always somehow missing the big storms. Part of is, as Kepler said, is people not knowing how to drive. Trust us, being shocked at how much the city shuts down for a handleable storm anywhere else is not going to change.
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The third part being, as we've seen with the pandemic, the hubris of the average dumbass 'Merican "no one can tell me to stay off the roads just cause of a little snow. I got things to do, places to go"
 
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French Rage said:
The DC area always does horribly with snow. Part of it is the weatherpeople always somehow missing the big storms. Part of is, as Kepler said, is people not knowing how to drive. Trust us, being shocked at how much the city shuts down for a handleable storm anywhere else is not going to change.
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It is ironic because it feels like half the city is Ivy League grads who learned how to drive in snow in Hanover and Ithaca and Cambridge. They should know better.

But the motto holds: "the city of northern hospitality and southern efficiency."
 
Kepler said:
It is ironic because it feels like half the city is Ivy League grads who learned how to drive in snow in Hanover and Ithaca and Cambridge. They should know better.

But the motto holds: "the city of northern hospitality and southern efficiency."
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But they may have not been native to those areas, and quickly forgot. DC has people who have moved in from everywhere, so you have a mix of those who do and don't know how to drive in the snow, but those who do will likely stay in to avoid those who don't. Bad money chases good money out of the market.
 
Handyman said:
Yeah I don't know what Scooby is going on about...even here anything over an inch and the top news story is "200 accidents reported by MNDOT" and "traffic was held up for hours because some truckdriver jacknifed". 15 hours is pretty ridiculous but if something like that happened in many parts of Minnesota/Wisconsin/Iowa it could be many hours before things get going again.
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I would think Minnesota and Colorado are the absolute pinnacle of American snow driving. Lots of opportunity to practice, stable state infrastructure funding, and a relatively lower percentage of I Am Emperor of the Highway conservative dooshnozzledom than Iowa, the Dakotas, Michigan, and Wisconsin.

The best snow drivers I have seen were in California of all places. The worst are Boston; not just the aggro but the sheer ineptitude.
 
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