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The States: Maybe A National Divorce Is A Good Idea After All

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Disney will happily sue an elementary class assembly for improperly showing The Little Mermaid, but do tell me more about "moving on,"
 
Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
Ron apparently has said he's moving on and thinks Disney can drop their lawsuit.
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In that same vein, West Virginia University is cutting something like 9% of its majors and 16% of its full-time faculty members. And sadly, I don’t think this trend will stick to predominantly red state land-grant universities.
 
psych said:
In that same vein, West Virginia University is cutting something like 9% of its majors and 16% of its full-time faculty members. And sadly, I don’t think this trend will stick to predominantly red state land-grant universities.
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I don’t think it’s COVID that’s shaping college enrollment. Tuition is such that people are having a hard time justifying the cost. We will see more kids move towards the trade schools shortly, and they’re needed in those professions as they’re aging up and not enough kids have an interest in that type of work right now. The pay raises needed to chase talent will entice people sooner or later.
 
St. Clown said:
I don’t think it’s COVID that’s shaping college enrollment. Tuition is such that people are having a hard time justifying the cost. We will see more kids move towards the trade schools shortly, and they’re needed in those professions as they’re aging up and not enough kids have an interest in that type of work right now. The pay raises needed to chase talent will entice people sooner or later.
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Bingo. A lot of Millennials were put on a pike outside the admissions gates. Scared a lot of people off. (I don't blame them.)
 
St. Clown said:
I don’t think it’s COVID that’s shaping college enrollment. Tuition is such that people are having a hard time justifying the cost. We will see more kids move towards the trade schools shortly, and they’re needed in those professions as they’re aging up and not enough kids have an interest in that type of work right now. The pay raises needed to chase talent will entice people sooner or later.
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The article spoke nothing of Covid having any impact. Nor is it that students don’t want to attend. Per usual, it’s greedy a—holes running the show that is ruining public education. Here it is:

https://www.thenation.com/article/society/wvu-cuts-higher-education/tnamp/
 
dxmnkd316 said:
Bingo. A lot of Millennials were put on a pike outside the admissions gates. Scared a lot of people off. (I don't blame them.)
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Yup. Our stories are all over social media. It's actually something a lot of HS counselors are having to explain to the 16-18 crowd today.

Honestly I think we're heading for a time that **major** 4-year college will only be open to the ultra smart and/or wealthy. Basically people who have the connections to make $70K or more right out of college already baked into their lives. The current job market is all about WHO you know, not WHAT you know...
 
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Honestly I think we're heading for a time that **major** 4-year college will only be open to the ultra smart and/or wealthy.
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Would this be so bad?

Honestly. I would take a system where as long as every super smart person gets to go free to college and grad school then we lock the mediocrites out. You don't need to spend 4 years in school to learn how to be a realtor or an office worker, or to prepare for an MBA or law school. That's why 85% of undergrads party all the time. They can.

Leave the 4-year schools for brilliant people in the sciences, the arts, and as far as professional school goes I assume medicine and engineering. It wouldn't hurt the rest of the population to live at home 2 more years going to community college and then going to work with zero debt.
 
Kepler said:
Would this be so bad?

Honestly. I would take a system where as long as every super smart person gets to go free to college and grad school then we lock the mediocrites out. You don't need to spend 4 years in school to learn how to be a realtor or an office worker, or to prepare for an MBA or law school. That's why 85% of undergrads party all the time. They can.

Leave the 4-year schools for brilliant people in the sciences, the arts, and as far as professional school goes I assume medicine and engineering. It wouldn't hurt the rest of the population to live at home 2 more years going to community college and then going to work with zero debt.
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On paper, yes...

But tell that to the people hiring that want a degree for most entry level positions. No degree means you can't get a livable wage outside of construction/manual labor. Those types of jobs aren't for everyone.
 
RaceBoarder said:
On paper, yes...

But tell that to the people hiring that want a degree for most entry level positions. No degree means you can't get a livable wage outside of construction/manual labor. Those types of jobs aren't for everyone.
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But it would change everything to make a BA into a degree in arcana, and make the AB the gold standard.

The students would benefit from more structure and oversight as 18-21 year old infants. The community college system would benefit as it would lose its stigma. The university grift would be broken. The expectation that a smart, motivated person will typically have an AB would change the job requirement to the AB. BAs would become suspect in most jobs. "Too eggheady to be our office manager. Jesus, she may even read books written before 1990!" Wanted: must not have a BA or above.

And conservatives would be happy since blacks would still be disproportionately non-high school graduating or AB seeking, so they could keep their 21st century slavery. Everybody* wins.

* who matters in America
 
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Hawaii’s gov and AG are trying to put moratorium on land transactions in Lahaina but expect legal challenges. Just heartbreaking- you know the vultures are circling to get any generational land left.

also the response is being criticized as expected. I kind of understand not blowing the sirens though- those are for tsunamis and indicate to find higher land. That would have likely killed many more
 
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But it would change everything to make a BA into a degree in arcana, and make the AB the gold standard.

The students would benefit from more structure and oversight as 18-21 year old infants. The community college system would benefit as it would lose its stigma. The university grift would be broken. The expectation that a smart, motivated person will typically have an AB would change the job requirement to the AB. BAs would become suspect in most jobs. "Too eggheady to be our office manager. Jesus, she may even read books written before 1990!" Wanted: must not have a BA or above.

And conservatives would be happy since blacks would still be disproportionately non-high school graduating or BA seeking, so they could keep their 21st century slavery. Everybody* wins.

* who matters in America
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Not sure if this is a very esoteric dig at my alma mater or what, but an AB is the same as a BA. AB is just a bachelor's degree using Latin terminology.

AAs are associate degrees from community colleges.
 
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