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The States: Mad Scientist Laboratories of Democracy

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ScoobyDoo said:
All I know is I would be losing my mind right now if I was a parent and lived in Flint and my kids were exposed to this crap. If this ends up being like the bank bailout and no one goes to jail It's going to pretty much cement to the World that we are indeed an Oligarchy and not the free nation of the World.
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The guy who called out the Flint situation a while ago, when people/officials were ignoring him, has come out to state that it will take about 2.5 months for the city's water to be within the EPA's safe guidelines. In that same story, roughly 85% of houses are already back within a normal range. (This was on one of the Big 3's national news broadcasts last night, and those sites are blocked while I'm in the office, so no link to the story.)

That said, it didn't mention if there were talks about pursuing or dropping charges against those who let this situation come to pass. My bet is they'll find a scapegoat, and that will be that. The head honchos will all skate free.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
All I know is I would be losing my mind right now if I was a parent and lived in Flint and my kids were exposed to this crap. If this ends up being like the bank bailout and no one goes to jail It's going to pretty much cement to the World that we are indeed an Oligarchy and not the free nation of the World.
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We are no longer a functioning democracy.

The only way back is to get money out of elections and the only way to do that is to keep Republicans out of the White House. It really is that simple.
 
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SJHovey said:
Aren't Democrats spending as much, if not more money on elections right now than Republicans?
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I sure hope so.

Overturn Citizens United and McCutcheon and enact sensible limits on personal contributions and the abolition of corporate (yes, including union) bribes, and then we can both put away our weapons. Until then,

They pull a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue
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Right of self-defense, baby.
 
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Kepler said:
We are no longer a functioning democracy.

The only way back is to get money out of elections and the only way to do that is to keep Republicans out of the White House. It really is that simple.
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The Japanese thought much the same as you did (less the bigotry towards one party over the other) and removed money from the political campaign process. All campaigns in Japan are funded by their national government. Polls show that the populace became less impressed with their government after they made the change.

This is another lesson in Is grass greener? Perhaps not.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/econo...ter-shows-the-cost-of-undermining-regulations

Yeah, that makes sense. Now convince a Republican. I bet you can't. For some reason they don't think infrastructure is a big deal unless it's a sports stadium for one of their fellow rich guys.
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I keep forgetting, the Republicans passed all the bills for the various stadia built here in Minneapolis over the past ten years.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Check into Milwaukee's new bball arena.
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Irrelevant to the point. The two stadia used to replace the Metrodome were passed by the Hennepin County Board of Trustees (passed along party lines, DFL majority) and Gov. Mark Dayton (DFL). Prior to that, Jesse Ventura signed the bill to build the Xcel Energy Center in St. Paul, with future Gov. Pawlenty lobbying heavily for it. You can't assign an act like stadium building to one party when both are equally guilty of the act - or, in this state, three parties.
 
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St. Clown said:
Irrelevant to the point. The two stadia used to replace the Metrodome were passed by the Hennepin County Board of Trustees (passed along party lines, DFL majority) and Gov. Mark Dayton (DFL). Prior to that, Jesse Ventura signed the bill to build the Xcel Energy Center in St. Paul, with future Gov. Pawlenty lobbying heavily for it. You can't assign an act like stadium building to one party when both are equally guilty of the act - or, in this state, three parties.
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But I'm not. Democrat in office stadium AND water pipes get built. ****tard Republican in office, stadium gets built and water gets leaded.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
But I'm not. Democrat in office stadium AND water pipes get built. ****tard Republican in office, stadium gets built and water gets leaded.
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:rolleyes: Yeah, because so much has changed in this state between 2010 and today.
 
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I'd actually agree with Scoobs on this one. The cities' have been on fire over the last x years and much of that to the credit of the DFL. The Nicollet Renovation, Light Rails (to St. Paul and Southwest) and the US Bank Stadium. So much beyond the Vikings, I don't know that we can even begin to put a value on the full blown renovations taking place on the southeast side of the city. And two light rails that go right through it (and a third heading SW). And the 35W corridor. Although one could make the case that the 35W corridor happened under Paw, its not the type of project that Republicans are in favor of. Imagine if we had none of this or the XCel or Target Stadium or the Target Center? This is where I typically trot out how the Twin Cities are tops in the country on some list of economic indicators or livability index.

I don't know that they would have shut down every single project...but ultimately the goal of the broader conservative movement would have been to 'spend' on none of it. And being dead center in fly over land, ongoing urban stagnation would be the end of this city.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
Lol @ scooby
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What 5mn_Major just said.

Also, funny thing, Dayton pays the bills. Pawlenty did not. Big difference there. States all over the country under Republican rule are having their credit ratings degraded.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
What 5mn_Major just said.

Also, funny thing, Dayton pays the bills. Pawlenty did not. Big difference there. States all over the country under Republican rule are having their credit ratings degraded.
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Illinois fits your rule, but their tailspin started long before Rauner was voted in and isn't tied to just one party or the other. And there isn't an end in sight to the budget mess. A reminder, Illinois continues to operate as usual with NO 2016 fiscal budget. And we're just five months away from needing the 2017 budget passed.
 
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OH-Sen's clash of titans (well... for OH) looking really tight.

GOP Sen. Rob Portman may have a ton of money, he may be a skilled campaigner, and he may possess that not-totally-scary image (he supports gay marriage!) that Republicans often find elusive, but according to the polls, he still has a competitive race on his hands. Former Democratic Gov. Ted Strickland leads Portman by a 44-42 margin in Quinnipiac's latest survey, little changed from his 46-43 edge back in September.
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Good thing this is an on-cycle election. I suspect it will come down to whether Kasich winds up on the ticket.
 
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Just a reminder, we're approaching nine months without a budget for the State of Illinois. State Universities are planning on canceling spring break in hopes of speeding up the semester so they can get kids graduated before they run out of money.

Also, for the first time since 1818, the Governor of Illinois submitted the next fiscal year budget without having a current year budget.

Gov. Rauner (R) sumbitted the 2017 funding bill last week without an approved 2016 bill. Illinois Democrats continue to refuse to work with Rauner.
 
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