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The Sad Case of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act

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unofan said:
But I thought us government employees were paid more than the private sector, what with our lavish honda civics and offices that get renovated every third decade?
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This cracked me up because it is right on the money. Mr Les hasn't seen a real reno in his space for about 20 yrs and has been waiting for the AC for all 31 yrs of his tenure (imagine a triaining room in the exact center of the gym with no AC and inadequate ventilation- 100+ degrees smells very nice during august camps), he does drive a Honda tho- it is really lavish- the brakes work and there are no cracks in the windshield :p

On the other hand they won't put him to part time to save his bennies- he just works 7 days a week, is salaried and never gets to take all his vacation.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
None. Fighting insurance companies is not easy.
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In the early years of practice it was much easier. Jenny would get on the phone with them and win perhaps 75% of the time for our patients. If she could not get through to them she would put me on and we would win perhaps another 10-15%. As time went by the percentages dropped precipitously. I would spend hours of the day trying to explain a situation to someone who was totally incoherent who would then turn me over to a supervisor who simply kept reading from a script. By 20001 I was spending 4 hours a day with patients and perhaps an equal amount of time on the phone with insurance companies. I was actually told by one supervisor-"Don't you understnad when NO means NO?" This is one of the reasons we are semi retired and do not get involved with insurance companies unless it is to argue with them about our own individual claims.
 
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I've changed my mind, Papa Johns needs to cut employees. How else can he afford to keep his modest... castle. Or his 22 car underground garage with valet and carwash?

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Srsly? This ****er can't afford to spare any profit for his employees to have health care?
 
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Foxton said:
I've changed my mind, Papa Johns needs to cut employees. How else can he afford to keep his modest... castle. Or his 22 car underground garage with valet and carwash?

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Srsly? This ****er can't afford to spare any profit for his employees to have health care?
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Maybe Obama can take over the company, that would teach him.
 
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Foxton said:
I've changed my mind, Papa Johns needs to cut employees. How else can he afford to keep his modest... castle. Or his 22 car underground garage with valet and carwash?

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Srsly? This ****er can't afford to spare any profit for his employees to have health care?
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In Montgomery County, MD if the property is over 5 acres and you have (I think) 3 horses, it qualifies as agricultural land and subject to less property tax.
 
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obviously lots of you have never written a business plan, budget or understand bank covenants
 
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Foxton said:
I've changed my mind, Papa Johns needs to cut employees. How else can he afford to keep his modest... castle. Or his 22 car underground garage with valet and carwash?

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Srsly? This ****er can't afford to spare any profit for his employees to have health care?
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He's a job creator. What the **** is he paying taxes for?
 
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Foxton said:
So he no longer wants to add an extra nickel and dime to the price of a pizza he's just going to part time employees? Which will actually force him to hire more employees to fill in those hours. I guess he's got some job creation going for him. Although he'll probably just make fewer work harder.

Kind of like that Applebees guy needing an extra 50 cents a sandwich. How poorly is your business doing when that's going to make or break your entire franchise?

Clearly these guys treating their employees as disposable assets is a good long term business plan.
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It's a pizza joint. The employees ARE disposable assets, whether the owner wants them to be or not.
 
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I'm enjoying the public humiliation this guy is going through now. This is what these greedy a-holes deserve. Want to try to make a politcal statement to kiss butt with the minority party that's lost 4 out of the last 6 elections? Okay, but don't whine if some public scrutiny comes your way.
 
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huskyfan said:
obviously lots of you have never written a business plan, budget or understand bank covenants
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absence of knowledge, lack of experience, nothing stops a self-proclaimed know it all from opining. ;)
 
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did I post this already? it might not have gone through.

why are health related companies - hospitals, medical device companies, pharms, etc - cutting their work forces? wont ObamaCare be being millions into the system? more demand should equal more supply. what am I not getting about?
 
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huskyfan said:
did I post this already? it might not have gone through.

why are health related companies - hospitals, medical device companies, pharms, etc - cutting their work forces? wont ObamaCare be being millions into the system? more demand should equal more supply. what am I not getting about?
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Price rationing. Obama"care" is not about improving the quality of care it is about creating mass production lines. There is nothing in the law about "care;" the law is all about (attempts at) cost control.


Obama"care" is not bringing any new money into the system; it is merely shifting around existing funds. Cut from Medicare to apply it toward PPACA for example.



there actually is a "medical devices tax" making it more expensive to acquire equipment. backwards from what a rational person would want.
 
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Foxton said:
I've changed my mind, Papa Johns needs to cut employees. How else can he afford to keep his modest... castle. Or his 22 car underground garage with valet and carwash?

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Srsly? This ****er can't afford to spare any profit for his employees to have health care?
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Sweet house! But I don't think you understand business and specifically, profit margins in the food business, when you complain about it hurting the little guy. That cozy little castle may very well represent the difference between the average employee making $7.60 or $7.65 per hour. Not enough to make a difference in their lives individually (certainly not enough to buy health insurance!), but enough to buy a castle when you add it all up and manage it wisely (overseas accounts, invest in Brazil and China, etc. :p).
To say that sparing a bit of his profits could buy his employees health care only shows how ignorant you are. Think about what the goals of any business are, and what they ought to be. Then read some books on the topic. Then change your diet in support of your social convictions. Then come back and complain some more. I'm betting you won't. ;)
One of the important concepts you should learn is that if the aforementioned hypothetical $7.60 per hour were not enough to get the employees to want the job, they are welcome to work elsewhere for what the market will bear. We can assume that if the pay was $7.65, the chain would have a surplus of applicants for what they need.
 
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geezer said:
Sweet house! But I don't think you understand business and specifically, profit margins in the food business, when you complain about it hurting the little guy. That cozy little castle may very well represent the difference between the average employee making $7.60 or $7.65 per hour. Not enough to make a difference in their lives individually (certainly not enough to buy health insurance!), but enough to buy a castle when you add it all up and manage it wisely (overseas accounts, invest in Brazil and China, etc. :p).
To say that sparing a bit of his profits could buy his employees health care only shows how ignorant you are. Think about what the goals of any business are, and what they ought to be. Then read some books on the topic. Then change your diet in support of your social convictions. Then come back and complain some more. I'm betting you won't. ;)
One of the important concepts you should learn is that if the aforementioned hypothetical $7.60 per hour were not enough to get the employees to want the job, they are welcome to work elsewhere for what the market will bear. We can assume that if the pay was $7.65, the chain would have a surplus of applicants for what they need.
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How dare you give a left-wing communist a trickle down lecture! :p:D
 
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My wife has client that is a small business which employs a number of people with minimal skills. They are assembly jobs that require dexterity bit little knowledge. The owner has always gone well out of his way to treat his people well. He has a dilemma now. His faith will not allow him to buy insurance that pays for abortion. He is bringing suit on his own to be allowed to get insurance without that coverage. His only other option is to make everyone part time.
 
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goldy_331 said:
My wife has client that is a small business which employs a number of people with minimal skills. They are assembly jobs that require dexterity bit little knowledge. The owner has always gone well out of his way to treat his people well. He has a dilemma now. His faith will not allow him to buy insurance that pays for abortion. He is bringing suit on his own to be allowed to get insurance without that coverage. His only other option is to make everyone part time.
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The most obvious outcome to all this will be that the new normal will be working two or more part-time jobs (obviously with no benefits) to make up for the lost full time opportunities. We can all agree it sucks.
 
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