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The PPACA Thread Part VI: Tax Cuts Are More Important Than Your Health Care!

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Let the red states wither and die. Federalism today; federalism tomorrow; federalism forever.
 
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joecct said:
Fine with me. Health insurance is a personal choice and should not be mandated.

Access to health care should be available to all.
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That is the most expensive solution available. You got the money for that?
 
joecct said:
Fine with me. Health insurance is a personal choice and should not be mandated.

Access to health care should be available to all.
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So the devout Catholic on the board is all for letting people die if they make the stupid choice to forgo health insurance. Because stupidity = death sentence, apparently.

How very Christian.
 
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Silly unofan. Pro-lifers only care about making poor, single, preferably minority, slu-...er, *women* pay to sustain someone else's life. Forcing rich white men to pay taxes to save someone else's life would just be preposterous.
 
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LynahFan said:
Silly unofan. Pro-lifers only care about making poor, single, preferably minority, slu-...er, *women* pay to sustain someone else's life. Forcing rich white men to pay taxes to save someone else's life would just be preposterous.
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Christianity in America is the opposite of Christ's teachings.
 
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**** this country.

WASHINGTON — As consumers face rapidly rising drug costs, states across the country are moving to block “gag clauses” that prohibit pharmacists from telling customers that they could save money by paying cash for prescription drugs rather than using their health insurance.
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We have gag clauses that prevent people from getting cheaper prices? And it's cheaper to just buy them then use insurance?

****ing politicians.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/24/...rs-gag-clauses.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur
 
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unofan said:
So the devout Catholic on the board is all for letting people die if they make the stupid choice to forgo health insurance. Because stupidity = death sentence, apparently.

How very Christian.
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But those fetuses.
 
unofan said:
So the devout Catholic on the board is all for letting people die if they make the stupid choice to forgo health insurance. Because stupidity = death sentence, apparently.

How very Christian.
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Well,there is free will and that includes making choices that another disagrees with. If what you do does not harm anyone or dominate the weak, then go right ahead.

However, if you go to the clinic/urgent care/hospital you'll be treated and pay what you can pay (which, when you think about it, it exactly what are insurance companies doing by paying docs what they can pay, not what it costs).
 
joecct said:
Well,there is free will and that includes making choices that another disagrees with. If what you do does not harm anyone or dominate the weak, then go right ahead.

However, if you go to the clinic/urgent care/hospital you'll be treated and pay what you can pay (which, when you think about it, it exactly what are insurance companies doing by paying docs what they can pay, not what it costs).
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So Scooby was right, and you're for literally the most expensive way to provide healthcare there is.
 
unofan said:
So Scooby was right, and you're for literally the most expensive way to provide healthcare there is.
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Like I said before. Look at France. What they do there in intriguing.

But what we have now does not keep medical care affordable.
 
joecct said:
Like I said before. Look at France. What they do there in intriguing.

But what we have now does not keep medical care affordable.
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Do you understand how France finances though?
 
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joecct said:
Like I said before. Look at France. What they do there in intriguing.

But what we have now does not keep medical care affordable.
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health insurance is compulsory in France

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1447687/

French NHI evolved from a 19th-century tradition of mutual aid societies to a post–World War II system of local democratic management by “social partners”—trade unions and employer representatives—but it is increasingly controlled by the French state.34 Although NHI consists of different plans for different occupational groups, they all operate within a common statutory framework.35–37 Health insurance is compulsory; no one may opt out. Health insurance funds are not permitted to compete by lowering health insurance premiums or attempting to micromanage health care. For ambulatory care, all health insurance plans operate on the traditional indemnity model—reimbursement for services rendered. For inpatient hospital services, there are budgetary allocations as well as per diem reimbursements. The French indemnity model allows for direct payment by patients to physicians, coinsurance, and balance billing by roughly one third of physicians.
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Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
Do you understand how France finances though?
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Yes. But to implement it will cause massive teeth grinding among the current players. To get them to buy in will take an enormous amount of arm twisting and time. You can't force them because any legislation (based on the current cast of DC characters) will F it up even worse.

However, if somebody does not want to purchase health insurance, that's their business. They will then have to pay the cost of their care accordng to their means. Bill Gates pays full cost. Homeless Jane pays zilch.
 
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joecct said:
However, if somebody does not want to purchase health insurance, that's their business.
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You remember that the next time somebody uninsured crashes into your, I'm going to guess, 2014 Chevrolet Impala.
 
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Who do you think pays for medical bankruptcies?
 
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