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The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

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So, we can't get more doctors because they're overworked. But we need more doctors because they're already overworked?
 
St. Clown said:
What we're going to see is overworked professionals who will either start missing appointments or shifting the burden to underqualified people. NPs and PAs are all well and good, but the public is best served when they report up to a doctor who can oversee their work.
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At the highly specialized level I'd agree with this, but not so much at the urgent care / walk in clinic / PCP level. These are qualified trained people. How much oversight is really needed to treat bronchitis, ankle sprains, tick bites etc etc?
 
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ericredaxe said:
At the highly specialized level I'd agree with this, but not so much at the urgent care / walk in clinic / PCP level. These are qualified trained people. How much oversight is really needed to treat bronchitis, ankle sprains, tick bites etc etc?
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Exactly. If St. Clown has a rash that won't go away, he need not see guy who graduated top of his class at Harvard Medical School. If that reassessment of health care usage happens, its a good thing. The problem with knuckledragging on this issue is that its continually been proven wrong on its predictions, so now its flailing to find anything to latch onto. Either Rush, Hannity, or Levin has directed people like Clown, joecct, Fishy, etc to start beating the "no access to care" drum despite no evidence that this is a problem caused by the ACA. Like death panels, more people will be uninsured, this bill will be a job killer, and it will cause a spike in the deficit, this one will too prove to be nonsense.
 
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Rover said:
Exactly. If St. Clown has a rash that won't go away, he need not see guy who graduated top of his class at Harvard Medical School.
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Depends on the rash... :eek:
 
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GrinCDXX said:
I'm curious, what point are you trying to make by posting this story in this thread?
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Putting people under insurance plans has done nothing to address the root cause of the issue in driving down the cost of medicine. If anything, it's drawn it higher because the pharmas know they can get it, especially with an artificial monopoly otherwise known as a "patent".
 
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Whelp, that time of year again. Just changed plan years:

Employee Contributions:
Medical Premium +7.7%
Vision Plan +6.9%
Dental Plan +4.9%

I assume my company's contributions went up at least this much, too. That cost curve can get bent, all right.

I'm sure this will solve all our problems. Here's a running list (current through July 16).

We're headed toward single payer after all...but that payer is going to be for profit and called Shield United Cigna Kaiser Independence Together (SUCK-IT).
 
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LynahFan said:
Whelp, that time of year again. Just changed plan years:

Employee Contributions:
Medical Premium +7.7%
Vision Plan +6.9%
Dental Plan +4.9%

I assume my company's contributions went up at least this much, too. That cost curve can get bent, all right.

I'm sure this will solve all our problems. Here's a running list (current through July 16).

We're headed toward single payer after all...but that payer is going to be for profit and called Shield United Cigna Kaiser Independence Together (SUCK-IT).
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That upwardly bent cost curve for me and my coworkers will be revealed the first week of September. I'm looking forward to that...
 
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Kepler said:
Well for a Marxist, feeding us to a multi-national pharmaceutical/insurance corporate behemoth sure is a bold move.
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The consolidation. :rolleyes:

The government will take over the artificial monopoly, even if it is not in name. Two words: Federal Reserve.
 
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