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My parents are old enough for Medicare. So I'm already paying for it, just as they did for their parents. It's called living in a society. I'm sorry you are so selfish to not believe in that.
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The PPACA Implementation Phase II - Love it or Lose it!
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My parents are old enough for Medicare. So I'm already paying for it, just as they did for their parents. It's called living in a society. I'm sorry you are so selfish to not believe in that.
Re: The PPACA Implementation Phase II - Love it or Lose it!
You cited the authority to move things around for the high risk pool. What about postponing the employer mandate?
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I'm not a legal scholar, but it looks like a lot of these deadlines say "on or after" before the deadline. But just in case you're right, you better contact your Congressman or Senator to tell them you've uncovered a scurrilous plot (that somehow the entire GOP overlooked) and this certainly rises to the level of impeachment.
I'm not a legal scholar, but it looks like a lot of these deadlines say "on or after" before the deadline. But just in case you're right, you better contact your Congressman or Senator to tell them you've uncovered a scurrilous plot (that somehow the entire GOP overlooked) and this certainly rises to the level of impeachment.
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Re: The PPACA Implementation Phase II - Love it or Lose it!
I suppose this is a little off topic, but what kind of a point is this anyway? The same thing could be said about literally -- and in this instance that word is actually applicable -- any election.
I suppose this is a little off topic, but what kind of a point is this anyway? The same thing could be said about literally -- and in this instance that word is actually applicable -- any election.
Re: The PPACA Implementation Phase II - Love it or Lose it!
Depending on your personal health insurance situation and how things are structured where you live, I highly recommend that posters go shop for health insurance as possible before the start of the new years.
In Minnesota, that would be MNSure. I have my own health insurance and although I expect my deductible to go up...my premium will drop by a third. Must do it by new years though.
Depending on your personal health insurance situation and how things are structured where you live, I highly recommend that posters go shop for health insurance as possible before the start of the new years.
In Minnesota, that would be MNSure. I have my own health insurance and although I expect my deductible to go up...my premium will drop by a third. Must do it by new years though.
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How is the website for MNSure working? I heard it has been plagued by the same issues as the federal site.
How is the website for MNSure working? I heard it has been plagued by the same issues as the federal site.
St. Clown
Liberal Rebel Scum, apparently
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The last I'd heard from a news report on KSTP, a security firm found a vulnerability to a very basic hack, told MNSure about it, to which MNSure ignored them and then told them to take a hike. KSTP then took it further, contacting other security people about it, contacting MNSure again and finally MNSure took care of the security issue, saying that they were patching it that day, some two weeks after originally being contacted.
The last I'd heard from a news report on KSTP, a security firm found a vulnerability to a very basic hack, told MNSure about it, to which MNSure ignored them and then told them to take a hike. KSTP then took it further, contacting other security people about it, contacting MNSure again and finally MNSure took care of the security issue, saying that they were patching it that day, some two weeks after originally being contacted.
ScoobyDoo
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Re: The PPACA Implementation Phase II - Love it or Lose it!
Typical for IS/IT. I run into clowns like that every day. My industry is a joke.
Typical for IS/IT. I run into clowns like that every day. My industry is a joke.
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Yeah. I don't know of a corporation that didn't have serious hiccups after launching their website. Target Stores has outsourced theirs for years because it couldn't get it right...and is just now bringing it in house.
Here's an update on the issues...but it seems like it can be used:
Having trouble with MNsure? Here are some tips for consumers
Article by: JACKIE CROSBY , Star Tribune
Updated: December 23, 2013 - 9:26 PM
With MNsure’s call centers choked with long wait times and the website still buggy, officials on Monday released a set of tips to help consumers avoid problems when using the new online health insurance exchange.
Some of the most common issues arise when people put an extra space when typing in their phone numbers, use an incompatible browser or add their full middle names instead of using an initial, the agency said.
“Some of the problems people are facing are due to software issues that we are actively working on and will be resolving in the near future, but some of the issues can be resolved at the consumer level by following these tips,” MNsure interim CEO Scott Leitz said.
With the clock ticking on a newly extended Dec. 31 deadline, MNsure officials said Monday that the agency continues to ramp up staff to resolve technical problems and help *consumers get through the process.
The Department of Human *Services, which has long operated its own call center for those covered by public health plans, is now taking overflow traffic from MNsure. Wait times were “under an hour” as of 1 p.m. Monday, officials said. On Friday, consumers reported waiting as long as two hours.
Meanwhile, workers are still processing some 2,500 paper application forms and using manual processes to communicate with insurance companies.
For consumers still *wrestling with the website, the software that handles the application process and helps determine eligibility for federal tax credits remains the key source of trouble.
The consumer tip sheet, which also is posted on the MNsure.org site, contains similar information that operators at the call-in center use “for *triage,” Reich said.
The tips cover such items as creating a password (make it eight characters of letters, numbers and special characters); not abbreviating “Street” or “Avenue,” and what to do if you hit an “Internal Server Error” (clear your cache or change browsers). Also: Don’t use a cellphone or tablet — you need a computer or laptop to sign up.
The Dec. 31 deadline applies to those who need insurance coverage to begin on Jan. 1. The open enrollment period continues through March 31, which is the true drop-dead date for procrastinators.
After that, consumers will not be able to purchase insurance coverage until the fall, and will face a penalty of $95 or 1 percent of household income, whatever is greater.
Insurers have agreed to accept premium payments through Jan. 10, and any medical claims accrued after the first of the year will be covered retroactively. But the funds must be received by MNsure or the insurer by Jan. 10 to ensure coverage.
Yeah. I don't know of a corporation that didn't have serious hiccups after launching their website. Target Stores has outsourced theirs for years because it couldn't get it right...and is just now bringing it in house.
Here's an update on the issues...but it seems like it can be used:
Having trouble with MNsure? Here are some tips for consumers
Article by: JACKIE CROSBY , Star Tribune
Updated: December 23, 2013 - 9:26 PM
With MNsure’s call centers choked with long wait times and the website still buggy, officials on Monday released a set of tips to help consumers avoid problems when using the new online health insurance exchange.
Some of the most common issues arise when people put an extra space when typing in their phone numbers, use an incompatible browser or add their full middle names instead of using an initial, the agency said.
“Some of the problems people are facing are due to software issues that we are actively working on and will be resolving in the near future, but some of the issues can be resolved at the consumer level by following these tips,” MNsure interim CEO Scott Leitz said.
With the clock ticking on a newly extended Dec. 31 deadline, MNsure officials said Monday that the agency continues to ramp up staff to resolve technical problems and help *consumers get through the process.
The Department of Human *Services, which has long operated its own call center for those covered by public health plans, is now taking overflow traffic from MNsure. Wait times were “under an hour” as of 1 p.m. Monday, officials said. On Friday, consumers reported waiting as long as two hours.
Meanwhile, workers are still processing some 2,500 paper application forms and using manual processes to communicate with insurance companies.
For consumers still *wrestling with the website, the software that handles the application process and helps determine eligibility for federal tax credits remains the key source of trouble.
The consumer tip sheet, which also is posted on the MNsure.org site, contains similar information that operators at the call-in center use “for *triage,” Reich said.
The tips cover such items as creating a password (make it eight characters of letters, numbers and special characters); not abbreviating “Street” or “Avenue,” and what to do if you hit an “Internal Server Error” (clear your cache or change browsers). Also: Don’t use a cellphone or tablet — you need a computer or laptop to sign up.
The Dec. 31 deadline applies to those who need insurance coverage to begin on Jan. 1. The open enrollment period continues through March 31, which is the true drop-dead date for procrastinators.
After that, consumers will not be able to purchase insurance coverage until the fall, and will face a penalty of $95 or 1 percent of household income, whatever is greater.
Insurers have agreed to accept premium payments through Jan. 10, and any medical claims accrued after the first of the year will be covered retroactively. But the funds must be received by MNsure or the insurer by Jan. 10 to ensure coverage.
Re: The PPACA Implementation Phase II - Love it or Lose it!
Clown you're all over the place, but I'll take em one by one.
1) Obama has maintained too much of a surveillance state and needs to dail it back. To his credit he stopped sanctioning torture and stopped sending people into the legal limbo of Gitmo. However, he nees to do more.
2) Afghanistan was necessary to fix Bush's blunder of putting it on the back burner to fight the useless Iraq war. Obama deserves huge credit for ending two wars he inherited that had been going on for almost a decade before he took the oath. For a so-called independent, its interesting how you always fail to note things like that.....
3) I am all for drone strikes, and if American citizens want to take up arms in enemy territory (whether or not the country itself is friendly to us) then don't cry when you're eating a drone. Drone's are the best alternative to troops on the ground which I don't wish to see again in the near future. Also, you've gotta be an idiot to trust Pakistan and Yemen to clean up their country of militants by themselves.
4) ACA is by the books. By law he has the discretion to change the deadlines. If you don't like that, go to court. Although as I ask again, one has to wonder why conservative organizations have yet to think of this.
Clown you're all over the place, but I'll take em one by one.
1) Obama has maintained too much of a surveillance state and needs to dail it back. To his credit he stopped sanctioning torture and stopped sending people into the legal limbo of Gitmo. However, he nees to do more.
2) Afghanistan was necessary to fix Bush's blunder of putting it on the back burner to fight the useless Iraq war. Obama deserves huge credit for ending two wars he inherited that had been going on for almost a decade before he took the oath. For a so-called independent, its interesting how you always fail to note things like that.....
3) I am all for drone strikes, and if American citizens want to take up arms in enemy territory (whether or not the country itself is friendly to us) then don't cry when you're eating a drone. Drone's are the best alternative to troops on the ground which I don't wish to see again in the near future. Also, you've gotta be an idiot to trust Pakistan and Yemen to clean up their country of militants by themselves.
4) ACA is by the books. By law he has the discretion to change the deadlines. If you don't like that, go to court. Although as I ask again, one has to wonder why conservative organizations have yet to think of this.
St. Clown
Liberal Rebel Scum, apparently
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And I disagree with the stance that we should be trying to rebuild Afghanistan in our image. We should have gone into the country rooted out the Taliban from power, tell the country if they support or allow groups like al Qaeda back into their country that we'd be back. It's unfortunate that they have such a backwards way of viewing women and children, but we're not going to change their culture in the long-term unless we're willing to stay there as occupiers in perpetuity.
I'm an independent in that I don't have a party affiliation. I've no qualms stating that the vast majority of the stances I take are libertarian in nature with a conservative slant. Neither of the parties represent that anymore. In the late 90's the Republicans gave such ideals lip service, but that all changed after Bush took office in 2001. And my overarching point was that so many of Bush's policies decried by Dems through 2008 were continued when Obama took office and now we barely hear peeps on those same subjects coming from those very same people. One of the few things I thought Bush had been doing right was a draw down of forces in that nation, it gave me hope that we might actually get all of our troops out of there.Clown you're all over the place, but I'll take em one by one.
1) Obama has maintained too much of a surveillance state and needs to dail it back. To his credit he stopped sanctioning torture and stopped sending people into the legal limbo of Gitmo. However, he nees to do more.
2) Afghanistan was necessary to fix Bush's blunder of putting it on the back burner to fight the useless Iraq war. Obama deserves huge credit for ending two wars he inherited that had been going on for almost a decade before he took the oath. For a so-called independent, its interesting how you always fail to note things like that.....
3) I am all for drone strikes, and if American citizens want to take up arms in enemy territory (whether or not the country itself is friendly to us) then don't cry when you're eating a drone. Drone's are the best alternative to troops on the ground which I don't wish to see again in the near future. Also, you've gotta be an idiot to trust Pakistan and Yemen to clean up their country of militants by themselves.
4) ACA is by the books. By law he has the discretion to change the deadlines. If you don't like that, go to court. Although as I ask again, one has to wonder why conservative organizations have yet to think of this.
And I disagree with the stance that we should be trying to rebuild Afghanistan in our image. We should have gone into the country rooted out the Taliban from power, tell the country if they support or allow groups like al Qaeda back into their country that we'd be back. It's unfortunate that they have such a backwards way of viewing women and children, but we're not going to change their culture in the long-term unless we're willing to stay there as occupiers in perpetuity.
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The problem is the disaster that is neo-conservatism in terms of military policy. Call it Bush-Cheneyism if you'd like. Had this era been allowed to continue (with the elections of McCain, Romney etc) we'd STILL BE in Iraq, for both of those nominees complained that we pulled out of that country. If that isn't a scary thought, I don't know what is. Afghanistan might still be getting the short end of the war effort, and if McCain was around we'd be putting boots on the ground in Syria based on his recent comments. Oh, we'd also have a defense budget excluding war spending of some $700+Bn a year.
Now, some will say these ideology no longer rules the roost. And there's some evidence to that as the Republicans in Congress, no doubt driven by Teapartiers, have helped slash the defense budget by approx $1.5T over the next 10 years. Something I never thought I'd live to see.
However, what I'm curious about is what we get out of their Presidential nominees. Mitt Romney was going to increase defense spending, per his own public proposal, by $2T over 10 years, which would have raised the defense budget **** near $1T a YEAR!!! Remember that when somebody complains about the costs associated with the ACA....
The problem is the disaster that is neo-conservatism in terms of military policy. Call it Bush-Cheneyism if you'd like. Had this era been allowed to continue (with the elections of McCain, Romney etc) we'd STILL BE in Iraq, for both of those nominees complained that we pulled out of that country. If that isn't a scary thought, I don't know what is. Afghanistan might still be getting the short end of the war effort, and if McCain was around we'd be putting boots on the ground in Syria based on his recent comments. Oh, we'd also have a defense budget excluding war spending of some $700+Bn a year.
Now, some will say these ideology no longer rules the roost. And there's some evidence to that as the Republicans in Congress, no doubt driven by Teapartiers, have helped slash the defense budget by approx $1.5T over the next 10 years. Something I never thought I'd live to see.
However, what I'm curious about is what we get out of their Presidential nominees. Mitt Romney was going to increase defense spending, per his own public proposal, by $2T over 10 years, which would have raised the defense budget **** near $1T a YEAR!!! Remember that when somebody complains about the costs associated with the ACA....
St. Clown
Liberal Rebel Scum, apparently
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The long-term Republicans in office need to check in with their constituents. A very large number of their voting bloc, let alone their opposition's, want a troop draw-down and to avoid new countries in which we place them. If McCain had taken office, we'd have likely had troops in both Libya and Syria by now. We'd be installing elected governments which would then turn against us after we leave. While I don't like tyrants, I'm also not keen on helping to install anti-American governments either. The answer to that? Let them sort out their own affairs and keep a watchful eye. A watchful eye doesn't mean we need to get actively, which is where a lot of these politicians want to take the people. After all, if they're not actively doing something, they're not actually doing anything, right? Yuck.
Add to that, we'd be pointing at Iran as the next target. While the Iranian military scares me to the grand sum of zero, we should not enter that country simply because they have policies contrary to ours. Also, the younger generation there will start to take power within the next 10 years, and we will see even greater moderation from them than the change in rhetoric we've seen lately.
The problem is the disaster that is neo-conservatism in terms of military policy. Call it Bush-Cheneyism if you'd like. Had this era been allowed to continue (with the elections of McCain, Romney etc) we'd STILL BE in Iraq, for both of those nominees complained that we pulled out of that country. If that isn't a scary thought, I don't know what is. Afghanistan might still be getting the short end of the war effort, and if McCain was around we'd be putting boots on the ground in Syria based on his recent comments. Oh, we'd also have a defense budget excluding war spending of some $700+Bn a year.
Now, some will say these ideology no longer rules the roost. And there's some evidence to that as the Republicans in Congress, no doubt driven by Teapartiers, have helped slash the defense budget by approx $1.5T over the next 10 years. Something I never thought I'd live to see.
However, what I'm curious about is what we get out of their Presidential nominees. Mitt Romney was going to increase defense spending, per his own public proposal, by $2T over 10 years, which would have raised the defense budget **** near $1T a YEAR!!! Remember that when somebody complains about the costs associated with the ACA....
The long-term Republicans in office need to check in with their constituents. A very large number of their voting bloc, let alone their opposition's, want a troop draw-down and to avoid new countries in which we place them. If McCain had taken office, we'd have likely had troops in both Libya and Syria by now. We'd be installing elected governments which would then turn against us after we leave. While I don't like tyrants, I'm also not keen on helping to install anti-American governments either. The answer to that? Let them sort out their own affairs and keep a watchful eye. A watchful eye doesn't mean we need to get actively, which is where a lot of these politicians want to take the people. After all, if they're not actively doing something, they're not actually doing anything, right? Yuck.
Add to that, we'd be pointing at Iran as the next target. While the Iranian military scares me to the grand sum of zero, we should not enter that country simply because they have policies contrary to ours. Also, the younger generation there will start to take power within the next 10 years, and we will see even greater moderation from them than the change in rhetoric we've seen lately.
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I don't dispute that neo-conservatism is a failed idea that did significant damage to the US in many ways. I'm curious what you mean by saying that it was a disaster in terms of "military policy," though. Militarily, I would have to rate the campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan as rather successful - extremely few casualties (roughly 600 deaths per year in Iraq and Afghanistan combined), huge disruption to the enemies' ability to mount operations, significant portions of enemy leadership captured or killed, etc. In my accounting, the disasters were reasonably well confined to politics (we'll be welcomed as liberators as we foment democracy!) and economics (another $2T+ in debt). Our modern weapons, communications networks, tactics, and training have been proven on the field of battle, which is a proving ground like no other. Militarily, the US is probably farther ahead of the rest of the world than we have ever been.
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In terms of running the military/foreign policy, as opposed to how the military itself operates. As you say, the military has been successful in carrying out its duties for the most part. The problem and the failure is in how they've been used under a neo-conservative ideology (and to be fair, really we've only had one administration under its influence as Reagan/Bush I were more WWII inspired).
I can't keep from mentioning though the 5,000 US soldiers needlessly sitting in their graves right now for a war fought on doctored intelligence because a group of people thought they could burnish their legacy by forcing democracy on a region that didn't want it. The Iraq War is the biggest military disaster in our country's history. While some would say Vietnam, why we were in Vietnam was pretty clear (preventing the spread of communism) and the North did in fact attack the South. Why we went into Iraq isn't clear at all.
As I believe you're old enough to remember the saying about how we can't afford another Carter (although as its been 33 years since he left the WH that saying has less meaning for the under 50 crowd
), the new one for this generation is we can't afford another W. As Clown said, if his fellow like minded people had succeeded him, we could very well be fighting in 4 different Middle Eastern countries right now (Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, and Libya). No thanks, I say and I'm real curious what kind of position the party nominee takes on this philosophy next election.
In terms of running the military/foreign policy, as opposed to how the military itself operates. As you say, the military has been successful in carrying out its duties for the most part. The problem and the failure is in how they've been used under a neo-conservative ideology (and to be fair, really we've only had one administration under its influence as Reagan/Bush I were more WWII inspired).
I can't keep from mentioning though the 5,000 US soldiers needlessly sitting in their graves right now for a war fought on doctored intelligence because a group of people thought they could burnish their legacy by forcing democracy on a region that didn't want it. The Iraq War is the biggest military disaster in our country's history. While some would say Vietnam, why we were in Vietnam was pretty clear (preventing the spread of communism) and the North did in fact attack the South. Why we went into Iraq isn't clear at all.
As I believe you're old enough to remember the saying about how we can't afford another Carter (although as its been 33 years since he left the WH that saying has less meaning for the under 50 crowd
), the new one for this generation is we can't afford another W. As Clown said, if his fellow like minded people had succeeded him, we could very well be fighting in 4 different Middle Eastern countries right now (Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, and Libya). No thanks, I say and I'm real curious what kind of position the party nominee takes on this philosophy next election.FlagDUDE08
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What else would we run up the deficit on?
What else would we run up the deficit on?
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Oh, and have we talked about who will be able to get coverage? Hint: it isn't 100% of Americans. http://joeforamerica.com/2013/12/zack-langford-3-year-old-denied-obamacare/
Oh, and have we talked about who will be able to get coverage? Hint: it isn't 100% of Americans. http://joeforamerica.com/2013/12/zack-langford-3-year-old-denied-obamacare/
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So, signups for the ACA now over 2M for private plans, 4M for expanded Medicare and another 3M young adults on their parents plan.
Good luck with that repeal drive, knuckledraggers! I'm sure 9M people (and counting) are going to love having their insurance taken away the day that GOP Kingdom on Earth arrives with President Cruz at the helm.
So, signups for the ACA now over 2M for private plans, 4M for expanded Medicare and another 3M young adults on their parents plan.
Good luck with that repeal drive, knuckledraggers! I'm sure 9M people (and counting) are going to love having their insurance taken away the day that GOP Kingdom on Earth arrives with President Cruz at the helm.
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