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The Power of the SCOTUS Part VII - The Bedrock of the Republic!

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GOP strategy has, for a long time, been based on convincing us that we must be afraid of those who are different from us, including gays, blacks, Mexicans, muslims, athiests, and the poor, all of whom are out to take things from us, so that we will yield control to a small group of rich white guys who will make sure we can keep what we have.

Trust me, though, GOPeople are boogiemen. They will come to get you in your sleep.
 
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Kepler said:
I see the GOP has moved from vote suppression to citizenship suppression. Good, good.
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By their ridiculous logic none of us are citizens then unless of course you are part Native American or if you cant trace your ancestors back to the colonies.
 
handyman said:
by their ridiculous logic none of us are citizens then unless of course you are part native american or if you cant trace your ancestors back to the colonies.
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Question - If my wife gives birth to a child while in England, is the child a subject of Her Majesty? I believe we are part of a small group of countries who grant citizenship solely by the fact that you were born here.
 
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joecct said:
Question - If my wife gives birth to a child while in England, is the child a subject of Her Majesty? I believe we are part of a small group of countries who grant citizenship solely by the fact that you were born here.
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I believe they would be able to gain dual citizenship. If your permanent residence is in the US and one of the parents is a US citizen, the child gains citizenship automatically upon entering the country.

But they should also be English if England uses right of soil rules.
 
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joecct said:
One should look at Wiki before asking. The answer looks like a no.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_nationality_law
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I'm not sure if it is "no." According to your link, for anyone born in the UK before 1983 they are citizens, unless they are the child of an enemy alien or diplomat. After 1/1/83, if at least one parent is "settled" in the UK, you can become a citizen. At least that's how I read it.
 
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Some on the right need to explain why the 14th A doesn't state that citizenship vests at the moment of conception.
 
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burd said:
GOP strategy has, for a long time, been based on convincing us that we must be afraid of those who are different from us, including gays, blacks, Mexicans, muslims, athiests, and the poor, all of whom are out to take things from us, so that we will yield control to a small group of rich white guys who will make sure we can keep what we have.

Trust me, though, GOPeople are boogiemen. They will come to get you in your sleep.
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Right on message I see. Scare tactics and divisiveness can be quite effective.
 
joecct said:
Question - If my wife gives birth to a child while in England, is the child a subject of Her Majesty? I believe we are part of a small group of countries who grant citizenship solely by the fact that you were born here.
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Not in England. But if the child is born in Canada , she's a subject of the Queen. (as well as a US citizen through her parents).
 
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I had a friend in high school who was born in the US, but his parents were first-generation Polish immigrants. He had dual US/EU citizenship.
 
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Kepler said:
Doesn't the US force you to choose at 21?
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if that kid was 21 and still in high school, there'd be more notable things about the student than his Polish ancestry. Thought that might explain...
 
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St. Clown said:
if that kid was 21 and still in high school, there'd be more notable things about the student than his Polish ancestry. Thought that might explain...
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A guy walks into a bar, sits down and orders a beer. He says to the bartender, "Hey, want to hear a good Polack joke?"

The bartender says, "Tell you what.... I'm Polish. See those two big guys playing pool? They're Polish. See those other two guys sitting at the end of the bar? They're Polish. You still want to tell your "Polack" joke?"

"Not if I'm gonna have to explain it five times."
 
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Kepler said:
A guy walks into a bar, sits down and orders a beer. He says to the bartender, "Hey, want to hear a good Polack joke?"

The bartender says, "Tell you what.... I'm Polish. See those two big guys playing pool? They're Polish. See those other two guys sitting at the end of the bar? They're Polish. You still want to tell your "Polack" joke?"

"Not if I'm gonna have to explain it five times."
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My best friend growing up was 100% Polish ancestory, but his family had a French name. Yeah, that went well for him as a kid.
 
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Kepler said:
Doesn't the US force you to choose at 21?
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That may be the case. Regardless, there's no question he's kept the US citizenship. He's close to finishing a PhD, is active within the state and national GOP, and has wanted to be a Beltway insider for as long as I can remember. We'll probably be hearing about his involvement in a money laundering/bribery scheme someday.
 
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unofan said:
Nope. You can be a dual citizen for life. See, e.g., Ted Cruz.
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I did not know that. I thought from the US POV it was "choose me or lose me."

Of course I never understood why you couldn't just choose US citizenship and essentially retain both because the other country didn't care.
 
Kepler said:
I did not know that. I thought from the US POV it was "choose me or lose me."

Of course I never understood why you couldn't just choose US citizenship and essentially retain both because the other country didn't care.
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The US discourages it, but SCOTUS struck down the ban on it in the 60s.

There's an argument that naturalized citizens cannot hold dual citizenship, since part of the oath is that you are pledging your allegiance solely to the US, but even that's one that doesn't seem likely to hold up in court.
 
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Bob Gray said:
Right on message I see. Scare tactics and divisiveness can be quite effective.
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This used to be a country where even non-christians could speak up without being personally attacked. That has sure changed. Where have you gone, Joe DiMaggio?
 
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Bob Gray said:
Scare tactics and divisiveness can be quite effective.
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Back at you, Bob. Your frontrunner is the guy claiming that Mexico makes a concerted effort to send all of their criminals to the US. Funny how he doesn't insist on a border wall with Canada, despite stating that (paraphrase here) "a country without borders is not a country at all". Last I checked, most of our border with Canada was a cleared strip of forest in the wilderness at the 49th parallel, which is often crossed by drug runners who time it in order to dodge drone surveillance aircraft. So what difference does a wall (that Mexico will build and pay for :D) on the southern border make? And while we may concede that the vast majority of illegal immigration is coming from the south, that does not excuse Mr. Trump's broad brush, does it?
 
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