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Depends on the state, but I'd imagine their estates could bring a claim in most of them.
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The Power of the SCOTUS Part VI - Roberts rules disorder
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Depends on the state, but I'd imagine their estates could bring a claim in most of them.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: The Power of the SCOTUS Part VI - Roberts rules disorder
I'd like an independent verification of the results before I jump to conclusions. A study by a defense lawyer organization might be a little slanted.
Its always a pet peeve of mine that apparently everyone on death row is innocent. James Earl Ray didn't kill MLK. Albert DeSalvo wasn't the Boston Strangler. Soon we'll see a "Free Gary Ridgeway" movement as well. I'm all for a robust review with the latest testing for anybody facing the death penalty but I'm not sure 14 people met their maker by mistake.
I'd like an independent verification of the results before I jump to conclusions. A study by a defense lawyer organization might be a little slanted.
Its always a pet peeve of mine that apparently everyone on death row is innocent. James Earl Ray didn't kill MLK. Albert DeSalvo wasn't the Boston Strangler. Soon we'll see a "Free Gary Ridgeway" movement as well. I'm all for a robust review with the latest testing for anybody facing the death penalty but I'm not sure 14 people met their maker by mistake.
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I agree, and when the most ****ing word the defense lawyers can use is "overstated" it makes me think this might not be as bad as it sounds. Are we talking they said "It was a match" when is was a 98% match?
I agree, and when the most ****ing word the defense lawyers can use is "overstated" it makes me think this might not be as bad as it sounds. Are we talking they said "It was a match" when is was a 98% match?
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: The Power of the SCOTUS Part VI - Roberts rules disorder
Today, er, yesterday in derp.
She seems nice.
A few more of her faith-based theories:
Hey, she's not saying he his. She's only asking the question.
Today, er, yesterday in derp.
She seems nice.
A few more of her faith-based theories:
Hey, she's not saying he his. She's only asking the question.
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XYZ
Smoking in the selection room.
Re: The Power of the SCOTUS Part VI - Roberts rules disorder
That makes no sense whatsoever. As it's an equal protection issue...how exactly should it be ruled upon if not by the courts? And that has to be the absolute dumbest name a bill has ever been given.
That makes no sense whatsoever. As it's an equal protection issue...how exactly should it be ruled upon if not by the courts? And that has to be the absolute dumbest name a bill has ever been given.
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I don't suppose it's worth pointing out that Clinton is a Christian so she'd be chucking herself to the "slaughter"
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: The Power of the SCOTUS Part VI - Roberts rules disorder
Ah but she isn't. She's a lezzbean, dontcha know?
Ah but she isn't. She's a lezzbean, dontcha know?
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: The Power of the SCOTUS Part VI - Roberts rules disorder
She's not a Christian like Obama isn't a Christian. There are Christian's and then there are REAL Christians. She's not in the real category.
She's not a Christian like Obama isn't a Christian. There are Christian's and then there are REAL Christians. She's not in the real category.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: The Power of the SCOTUS Part VI - Roberts rules disorder
The Comments on this article speak eloquently on this and many other topics.
The Comments on this article speak eloquently on this and many other topics.
Re: The Power of the SCOTUS Part VI - Roberts rules disorder
For months now you can't watch television news, read a newspaper or read any online materials without learning about the latest allegation of police misconduct. Every day I go home and expect to see on the news that some other unarmed guy was shot and killed, or had his back broken, or was beaten up by a cop.
Now we find out the FBI was just making crap up and lying about it when they testified.
Here's my question. How hard is it about to become to convict someone of a crime in this country?
While the opinion of "white America" with respect to law enforcement hasn't fallen to that level held by minorities, there can be no question of a growing unease even in middle class white America over law enforcement officers. Now we pile on the dishonesty of the so-called experts who come in and testify.
I think it will be interesting to see.
Something I was thinking about the other day when I heard the FBI story is this.
For months now you can't watch television news, read a newspaper or read any online materials without learning about the latest allegation of police misconduct. Every day I go home and expect to see on the news that some other unarmed guy was shot and killed, or had his back broken, or was beaten up by a cop.
Now we find out the FBI was just making crap up and lying about it when they testified.
Here's my question. How hard is it about to become to convict someone of a crime in this country?
While the opinion of "white America" with respect to law enforcement hasn't fallen to that level held by minorities, there can be no question of a growing unease even in middle class white America over law enforcement officers. Now we pile on the dishonesty of the so-called experts who come in and testify.
I think it will be interesting to see.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: The Power of the SCOTUS Part VI - Roberts rules disorder
One of the most important reasons to root out the corruption, racism, and just plain old greed from law enforcement is it delegitimizes the whole court system. These jackholes aren't just murdering or railroading individuals, they're endangering the rule of law generally. Not a good thing to do when about half the country is already masturbating to Leviticus with their rifles hidden down some prepper hole.
One of the most important reasons to root out the corruption, racism, and just plain old greed from law enforcement is it delegitimizes the whole court system. These jackholes aren't just murdering or railroading individuals, they're endangering the rule of law generally. Not a good thing to do when about half the country is already masturbating to Leviticus with their rifles hidden down some prepper hole.
Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
Re: The Power of the SCOTUS Part VI - Roberts rules disorder
Well remember the old saying "It is better for 100 guilty men to go free than 1 innocent mail go to jail..." and from the sounds of it plenty of innocents have been jailed. The rubberband is about to snap back.
It should be hard to convict someone, that is the point of "beyond a reasonable doubt" that is a pretty high standard to reach. People have been watching too many cop shows and episodes of Law and Order (myself included) and the media fans the flames and we all just assume everyone is guilty...
Its a pendulum and it will swing back again in due time. (people get outraged that someone got away with murder and away we go)
Same thing holds true for the cops. Because so many apparently think they are Wyatt *** Earp and shoot/taze/beat to kill (especially in the case of minorities it seems) you will see that one of two things will happen. Either the police will start harassing everyone so they arent being accused of racism or excessive force will be overly looked into to the point that cops will be emasculated. Then something bad will happen and...well you know.
Well remember the old saying "It is better for 100 guilty men to go free than 1 innocent mail go to jail..." and from the sounds of it plenty of innocents have been jailed. The rubberband is about to snap back.
It should be hard to convict someone, that is the point of "beyond a reasonable doubt" that is a pretty high standard to reach. People have been watching too many cop shows and episodes of Law and Order (myself included) and the media fans the flames and we all just assume everyone is guilty...
Its a pendulum and it will swing back again in due time. (people get outraged that someone got away with murder and away we go)
Same thing holds true for the cops. Because so many apparently think they are Wyatt *** Earp and shoot/taze/beat to kill (especially in the case of minorities it seems) you will see that one of two things will happen. Either the police will start harassing everyone so they arent being accused of racism or excessive force will be overly looked into to the point that cops will be emasculated. Then something bad will happen and...well you know.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: The Power of the SCOTUS Part VI - Roberts rules disorder
Whatcha doin' today, Justice Kennedy? Oh, nothin'. Just endin' legalized bigotry.
Whatcha doin' today, Justice Kennedy? Oh, nothin'. Just endin' legalized bigotry.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: The Power of the SCOTUS Part VI - Roberts rules disorder
Sounds like the ruling is going to be:
1) No (6-3)
2) No (7-2)
Assuming Roberts wants to be the GLORYBOY. Otherwise, 5-4 / 6-3 with AK getting his place in history.
Sounds like the ruling is going to be:
1) No (6-3)
2) No (7-2)
Assuming Roberts wants to be the GLORYBOY. Otherwise, 5-4 / 6-3 with AK getting his place in history.
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Re: The Power of the SCOTUS Part VI - Roberts rules disorder
You realize that if the decisions go
Yes
No
It's effectively No No as anyone can get married anywhere and live as a married couple anywhere in the USA.
It used to be that people went to Nevada to get a quickly divorce. Regardless of where they lived, they were legally divorced regardless of what their state said or desired.
If a 14 year old gets married in Ithaca, NY (which he/she can with parental and judicial permission), they're legally married in all the USA regardless of the age of consent laws in that state.
Which is why I think 2) is 9-0.
But using the same arguments I hope 1) is a Yes as states have different marriage rules and the Union has not fallen apart.
You realize that if the decisions go
Yes
No
It's effectively No No as anyone can get married anywhere and live as a married couple anywhere in the USA.
It used to be that people went to Nevada to get a quickly divorce. Regardless of where they lived, they were legally divorced regardless of what their state said or desired.
If a 14 year old gets married in Ithaca, NY (which he/she can with parental and judicial permission), they're legally married in all the USA regardless of the age of consent laws in that state.
Which is why I think 2) is 9-0.
But using the same arguments I hope 1) is a Yes as states have different marriage rules and the Union has not fallen apart.
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