The Power of the SCOTUS III: Roberts' Rules of Order

[FlagDUDE08]

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In speaking of affirmative action, it looks like Florida wants to judge education metrics based upon race.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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In speaking of affirmative action, it looks like Florida wants to judge education metrics based upon race.

In addition, State Board of Education Chairwoman Kathleen Shanahan said that setting goals for different subgroups was needed to comply with terms of a waiver that Florida and 32 other states have from some provisions of the federal No Child Left Behind Act. These waivers were used to make the states independent from some federal regulations.

NCLB was such a great idea. GW Bush should be proud.

 

[St. Clown]

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NCLB was such a great idea. GW Bush should be proud.

So should Ted Kennedy, who authored it.

 

[St. Clown]

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The Economist is very interesting reading because they are an old-school free market / individual liberty approach and give an outsiders' view of the US. I like them the most, probably.

I had a subscription to The Economist for a year, but came away with a very different opinion of the magazine than you did. I didn't renew it this past May.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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So should Ted Kennedy, who authored it.

I don't care who authored it. Plenty of trash legislation out there that doesn't get through Congress and get a President's signature.

 

[St. Clown]

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I don't care who authored it. Plenty of trash legislation out there that doesn't get through Congress and get a President's signature.

So instead of focusing on a Democrat's idea and lobbying the POTUS and Congress to step across the aisle to "better" the nation, you just want to focus the final signatory. How nicely myopic of you, Scooby.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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So instead of focusing on a Democrat's idea and lobbying the POTUS and Congress to step across the aisle to "better" the nation, you just want to focus the final signatory. How nicely myopic of you, Scooby.

He was my last hope for stopping that stupidity from becoming law. He failed.

 

[Bob Gray]

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So you're considering Pravda as mainstream media for this exercise?

I'd imagine 5mn would enjoy Pravda.

 

[FreshFish]

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I'd imagine 5mn would enjoy Pravda.

Back in its heyday, I "enjoyed" Pravda too, in that it was often unintentionally humorous!

for example, the US and USSR often tried to use athletic events as international icebreakers. the headlines might then read "US next to last in basketball while USSR finishes second!" (well, in the English translation it read that way, anyway )

 

[unofan]

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The Economist is very interesting reading because they are an old-school free market / individual liberty approach and give an outsiders' view of the US. I like them the most, probably.

I'd like to believe you when you say that, but then it's funny how you convienently ignored their editorials blaming the GOP for the current budget crisis and otherwise fail to acknowledge that while it's a free market magazine, it's also Keynsian as a matter of pragmaticism, if nothing else. (It's probably Chicago school at heart, but recognizes the Fed is best at controlling inflation, not stimulating the economy)

The WSJ was maybe close before Murdoch bought it out. Now it's a shell of its former self, both editorially and for any content other than financial matters.

 

[unofan]

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I can only imagine how you would define "mainstream media".

Hint: Fox News and the WSJ are a part of it, which makes it absolutely absurd when they complain about it.

 

[5mn_Major]

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I'd imagine 5mn would enjoy Pravda.

That's because you regularly make comments about which you have no clue.

I am among those who would put the economist at the top of their list due to its prgamatic, fact based approach to information...which is absolutely pro biz, slightly left socially and knowledgeable on the international. Beyond that, feel free to tell me what about my points of view or career would ever lead you to that conclusion. Pin drop.

This in stark contrast to Jan Brewer's massive state and federal (when she spends it) govenment policies...which you seem to so consistently back.

 

[Bob Gray]

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That's because you regularly make comments about which you have no clue.

I am among those who would put the economist at the top of their list due to its prgamatic, fact based approach to information...which is absolutely pro biz, slightly left socially and knowledgeable on the international. Beyond that, feel free to tell me what about my points of view or career would ever lead you to that conclusion. Pin drop.

This in stark contrast to Jan Brewer's massive state and federal (when she spends it) govenment policies...which you seem to so consistently back.

Oh, boo hoo. Now you're being mean.

Your lack of knowledge of Arizona and Jan Brewer is staggering. Even her opponents don't paint her as a big government person. Thanks for a good chuckle in the morning.

 

[Bob Gray]

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Hint: Fox News and the WSJ are a part of it, which makes it absolutely absurd when they complain about it.

You're right. People shouldn't complain. The world would be just great if nobody ever complained.

 

[FreshFish]

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People shouldn't complain. The world would be just great if nobody ever complained.

Actually, the world would be better if people merely limited their complaints to what the linguist Suzette Haden Elkins calls "responsible complaints"

"When you do [concrete, specific thing x], I feel [y], because [z]."

These kinds of complaint serve a useful role in improving social relations.

Too many "complaints" are either disguised attacks, or whining about one's own unhappiness and dissatisfaction with life (perhaps holding others' accountable for unfortunate outcomes from our own bad choices.....)

 

[5mn_Major]

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Your lack of knowledge of Arizona and Jan Brewer is staggering. Even her opponents don't paint her as a big government person. Thanks for a good chuckle in the morning.

It appears your lack of knowledge of Arizona and Jan Brewer are staggering:

Jan Brewer Gets a "D" in Economics From the Libertarian Cato Institute

The libertarian Cato Institute has not been taking it easy on Arizona -- it has consistently said the state's immigration laws are no good for the economy, and now it's giving Governor Jan Brewer a "D" in fiscal policy.

The idea behind the grade is simple: "governors who have cut taxes and spending the most receive the highest grades, while those who have increased taxes and spending the most receive the lowest grades."

"Her fiscal policies have been less conservative. Her budgets have usually proposed substantial increases in spending, and her tax policies have included a mix of tax increases and cuts. In 2010 she helped push through a "temporary" increase in the state sales tax rate from 5.6 to 6.6 percent to raise $1 billion a year. The tax is set to expire in 2013, but an interest group has succeeded in putting a permanent extension on the ballot for this November."

Brewer's also called out in the Cato Institute's report for the state's "quality jobs" program, which is a per-job tax credit from the state. Of course, that's government intervention to the libertarian types, and the Cato Institute argues the jobs tax-credits have governments "deliberately distorting workforce decisions."

Although Brewer landed 37th out of the 50 governors in the Cato Institute's scoring, she was the third-worst Republican on the list. She also received a "D" in 2010.

Beyond that, I don't know of any other state that limits what its schools can teach.

 

[Bob Gray]

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It appears your lack of knowledge of Arizona and Jan Brewer are staggering:

Jan Brewer Gets a "D" in Economics From the Libertarian Cato Institute

The libertarian Cato Institute has not been taking it easy on Arizona -- it has consistently said the state's immigration laws are no good for the economy, and now it's giving Governor Jan Brewer a "D" in fiscal policy.

The idea behind the grade is simple: "governors who have cut taxes and spending the most receive the highest grades, while those who have increased taxes and spending the most receive the lowest grades."

"Her fiscal policies have been less conservative. Her budgets have usually proposed substantial increases in spending, and her tax policies have included a mix of tax increases and cuts. In 2010 she helped push through a "temporary" increase in the state sales tax rate from 5.6 to 6.6 percent to raise $1 billion a year. The tax is set to expire in 2013, but an interest group has succeeded in putting a permanent extension on the ballot for this November."

Brewer's also called out in the Cato Institute's report for the state's "quality jobs" program, which is a per-job tax credit from the state. Of course, that's government intervention to the libertarian types, and the Cato Institute argues the jobs tax-credits have governments "deliberately distorting workforce decisions."

Although Brewer landed 37th out of the 50 governors in the Cato Institute's scoring, she was the third-worst Republican on the list. She also received a "D" in 2010.

Beyond that, I don't know of any other state that limits what its schools can teach.

So your knowledge is limited to what the Cato Institute tells you. I live here and have for many years and follow local news/politics. Yup, you really got the edge on me here.

If you had a clue, you'd know that Brewer has had to spend the last few years cleaning up the mess Janet Napolitano left behind when she took off for the Beltway. Napolitano kept spending more and more, despite revenues starting to fall significantly. Brewer has made the tough calls to balance the budget and such that Napolitano avoided.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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So your knowledge is limited to what the Cato Institute tells you. I live here and have for many years and follow local news/politics. Yup, you really got the edge on me here.

If you had a clue, you'd know that Brewer has had to spend the last few years cleaning up the mess Janet Napolitano left behind when she took off for the Beltway. Napolitano kept spending more and more, despite revenues starting to fall significantly. Brewer has made the tough calls to balance the budget and such that Napolitano avoided.

Gee that line of rhetoric sounds so familiar. I can think of a certain POTUS that has that same issue and doesn't get the same deference.

 

[Rover]

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Normally I don't mind giving conservatives a hard time but attacks on poster's girlfriends are taking it too far. Therefore, I request all potshots at Bob Gray's love interest Jan Brewer cease immediately!

 

[5mn_Major]

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So your knowledge is limited to what the Cato Institute tells you. I live here and have for many years and follow local news/politics. Yup, you really got the edge on me here.

Yes, yes I do.

So anyone including the fiscally conservative Cato, that criticizes your socialist Brewer is...'mainstream media' I guess. The study spends as much rigor evaluating governors as any report I've seen. Tell me where its wrong.

Bob as usual, you have no evidence. You have no rationale. You have no facts. Its only what basement Bob thinks.