The Power of the SCOTUS III: Roberts' Rules of Order

[Priceless]

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Much of the debt is owed to the public, i.e. ourselves. So does the government own us?

We're too big to fail?

 

[theprofromdover]

Our nation's uncontrolled spending is religion's fault somehow? Wow, that's a stretch. Really, it's the fault that we've been fat, dumb, and happy for so long and many Americans expect that because they are Americans, life should be easy and they should be provided for. The entitlement mentality.

As a nation we aren't remotely capable of even discussing the subject of Bakunin's post, let along make hard choices along those lines. We are America after all, not some nation without limitless resources.

Seldom right but never in doubt!

 

[Bob Gray]

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Seldom right but never in doubt!

From you, I take that as a complement.

Have a nice day.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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Our nation's uncontrolled spending is religion's fault somehow?

"Ninety-nine percent of the failures come from people who have the habit of making excuses." --George Washington Carver

 

[SJHovey]

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Is extending life beyond what many would consider a reasonable point even a political pov? Perhaps that suggestion hasn't been made, but it's easy to say, "pull the plug" from afar yet probably a completely different sentiment when making the choice up close and personal. I dunno I could be rambling...

If you ever get a chance to hear New York Times columnist Jane Brody speak on this subject, don't pass it up. She has also written a very good book that should be mandatory reading for anyone over 50, called Jane Brody's Guide To The Great Beyond.

 

[Bob Gray]

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Is extending life beyond what many would consider a reasonable point even a political pov? Perhaps that suggestion hasn't been made, but it's easy to say, "pull the plug" from afar yet probably a completely different sentiment when making the choice up close and personal. I dunno I could be rambling...

You should ramble more often. Makes sense to me.

 

[joecct]

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Is extending life beyond what many would consider a reasonable point even a political pov? Perhaps that suggestion hasn't been made, but it's easy to say, "pull the plug" from afar yet probably a completely different sentiment when making the choice up close and personal. I dunno I could be rambling...

I agree with Bob.

End of life decisions are not easy but it should be made by family, not a death panel or insurance companies, or the government. Personally, I won't turn off the feeding tube or the liquids. If death is inevitable, make me comfortable, but don't starve me or let me die of thirst. But that's me, not the rest of the board.

 

[Rover]

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Taking the break from the discussion about offing elderly relatives before they spend your inheritence on end of life care, is anybody else amused by the apparent war on the Supreme Court? What's up with all the leaks and public dissention? Not a SCOTUS watcher but I don't ever recall something like this previously. Makes me think Scalia's behind it as he's a bit of a loose cannon. Whoever it is, I'm not sure of the wisdom of blasting Roberts on a regular but anonymous basis. As a liberal, aside from maybe overturning DOMA I don't expect the guy to line up on my side of any further issues but if this keeps up you have to remember he has a lifetime appointment. Might he start screwing his former backers if they don't ease up?

 

[Bob Gray]

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Here's an article describing an example of an end of life scenario. Heart-wrenching, but also incredibly expensive.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304441404577483050976766184.html

 

[joecct]

Re: The Power of the SCOTUS III: Roberts' Rules of Order

Taking the break from the discussion about offing elderly relatives before they spend your inheritence on end of life care, is anybody else amused by the apparent war on the Supreme Court? What's up with all the leaks and public dissention? Not a SCOTUS watcher but I don't ever recall something like this previously. Makes me think Scalia's behind it as he's a bit of a loose cannon. Whoever it is, I'm not sure of the wisdom of blasting Roberts on a regular but anonymous basis. As a liberal, aside from maybe overturning DOMA I don't expect the guy to line up on my side of any further issues but if this keeps up you have to remember he has a lifetime appointment. Might he start screwing his former backers if they don't ease up?

Rover

If they overturn DOMA, do poly marriages become legal? It's a slippery slope that I am not sure, nor do I want to know, where the bottom is.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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Rover

If they overturn DOMA, do poly marriages become legal? It's a slippery slope that I am not sure, nor do I want to know, where the bottom is.

I'm pretty sure animal to human relationships will also be legal.

 

[Bob Gray]

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Rover

If they overturn DOMA, do poly marriages become legal? It's a slippery slope that I am not sure, nor do I want to know, where the bottom is.

Poly marriages are wrong until we're told they're right by enlightened minds, and then we're haters if we still think they're wrong.

 

[Kepler]

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I've been reading a book about the Frankfurt Parliament in 1848. The language used by conservative legislators to try to make mixed marriages between Christians and Jews illegal is virtually identical to the language used by the DOMA types today.

Wasserschildkröte is German for "box turtle."

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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Poly marriages are wrong until we're told they're right by enlightened minds, and then we're haters if we still think they're wrong.

If you made me choose, I'd enter into a union with a woman, but that's just me. I would preferably at this time enter into a union with no one, as they are just plain trouble. Freedom's a two-way street.

 

[geezer]

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I've been reading a book about the Frankfurt Parliament in 1848.

This is just terrible. You've got to get outside or something. Isn't there a minor league team in your area you could follow, assuming you don't like fishing?

 

[Rover]

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Rover

If they overturn DOMA, do poly marriages become legal? It's a slippery slope that I am not sure, nor do I want to know, where the bottom is.

I believe that only happens in the event of a Mitt Romney Presidency!

 

[St. Clown]

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two wives = twice the headaches.

 

[Kepler]

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This is just terrible. You've got to get outside or something. Isn't there a minor league team in your area you could follow, assuming you don't like fishing?

It's actually possible to read outside.

 

[Kepler]

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two wives = twice the headaches.

At least 3x:

AB, BA

AB, BA, AC, CA, BC, CB

 

[Bob Gray]

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I've been reading a book about the Frankfurt Parliament in 1848. The language used by conservative legislators to try to make mixed marriages between Christians and Jews illegal is virtually identical to the language used by the DOMA types today.

Wasserschildkröte is German for "box turtle."

Nice try.