unofan
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Of course, the extreme right is running the GOP while the extreme left is marginalized to the Green Party.
But hey, BSABSVR.
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The Power of SCOTUS VIII redux: IX is being blocked by the Senate.
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Of course, the extreme right is running the GOP while the extreme left is marginalized to the Green Party.
But hey, BSABSVR.
unofan
Well-known member
So you believe the GOP has controlled the Senate for all but 4 years out of the last 20, also believe the current Congress is too polarized to function, but somehow believe it's both parties' fault...ok.
(In reality, the Senate has been controlled by each party for 18 of the last 36 years, but that doesn't really matter for purposes of this argument)
Yeah, your logic sucks.
If you **** in the punch bowl at a party, and everyone else gets upset that someone ****ed in the punch bowl, that doesn't mean everyone is at fault.
The dysfunction in government is primarily caused by Tea Party Republicans refusing to do anything, and the traditional Republicans refusing to cross the aisle and govern responsibly with the Dems for fear of being primaried by said Tea Partiers for governing responsibly.
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ticapnews
Never graduate.
Re: The Power of SCOTUS VIII redux: IX is being blocked by the Senate.
You are so full of ****. I have reliably been one of the most liberal posters on this board. Years ago I was the one who said liberals will never get 100% of what they want and conservatives will never get 100% of what they want, so let's meet in the middle and compromise. This "some on the left" horse**** doesn't play either. Go back to freerepublic.com and peddle your wares there.
You are so full of ****. I have reliably been one of the most liberal posters on this board. Years ago I was the one who said liberals will never get 100% of what they want and conservatives will never get 100% of what they want, so let's meet in the middle and compromise. This "some on the left" horse**** doesn't play either. Go back to freerepublic.com and peddle your wares there.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: The Power of SCOTUS VIII redux: IX is being blocked by the Senate.
You're arguing with a bot.
Srsly, don't expect any sort of honest self-examination from Fish. Think of him as Safety School Rover. He's here to regurgitate the taking points he reads on Townhall or NR Online. It's a sort of home delivery public service: he previews what the Daily News thinks its readers want to hear.
"If you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a thousand battles; if you do not know your enemies or yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle." -- Sun Tzu
You're arguing with a bot.
Srsly, don't expect any sort of honest self-examination from Fish. Think of him as Safety School Rover. He's here to regurgitate the taking points he reads on Townhall or NR Online. It's a sort of home delivery public service: he previews what the Daily News thinks its readers want to hear.
"If you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a thousand battles; if you do not know your enemies or yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle." -- Sun Tzu
Re: The Power of SCOTUS VIII redux: IX is being blocked by the Senate.
Isn't this response merely another version of exactly what I said originally? "shut up you idiot it is not worth even talking to you at all." Ironic that you prove the point, eh?
Isn't this response merely another version of exactly what I said originally? "shut up you idiot it is not worth even talking to you at all." Ironic that you prove the point, eh?
ticapnews
Never graduate.
Re: The Power of SCOTUS VIII redux: IX is being blocked by the Senate.
Dialogue with rational people is always possible. Dialogue with xenophobic, racist, misogynist, extremist bots is not.
Dialogue with rational people is always possible. Dialogue with xenophobic, racist, misogynist, extremist bots is not.
Re: The Power of SCOTUS VIII redux: IX is being blocked by the Senate.
If everybody thinks you're an idiot Fishy, have you ever considered the notion that they're right and you may indeed be an idiot?
If everybody thinks you're an idiot Fishy, have you ever considered the notion that they're right and you may indeed be an idiot?
Re: The Power of SCOTUS VIII redux: IX is being blocked by the Senate.
you and I agree.
My observation was that, when a reasonable rational person asks a challenging question, rather than answer the question that makes a person uncomfortable, too many people instead attack the motives of the person asking the question and ignore the actual question itself entirely.
There is nothing racist in wanting to save black lives from gang crossfire. It is a humanitarian impulse to help struggling people who are in trouble live better lives.
Yet, if a person merely cites statistics about black on black crime, without any commentary at all, they are frequently labeled a racist. The question about the statistics themselves is totally ignored.
If a person cites statistics that minorities who live in minority communities are the strongest proponents of stop, question, and frisk, because that demonstrably makes minority neighborhoods safer for the people who live there, and the people who live there are the ones who want it and ask for it the most, they are frequently labeled a racist. The evidence about the wants and desires of actual minorities is totally ignored.
People here get annoyed with me for asking them questions that make them uncomfortable; I understand it can be challenging to have to defend something that in your heart you suddenly realize doesn't completely make sense yet you want to hold on to it anyway because it makes you feel better; we are all like that, it is human nature.
Too many people today seem to have trouble separating feelings from behaviors. You can feel whatever you want; that doesn't make rudeness acceptable.
you and I agree.
My observation was that, when a reasonable rational person asks a challenging question, rather than answer the question that makes a person uncomfortable, too many people instead attack the motives of the person asking the question and ignore the actual question itself entirely.
There is nothing racist in wanting to save black lives from gang crossfire. It is a humanitarian impulse to help struggling people who are in trouble live better lives.
Yet, if a person merely cites statistics about black on black crime, without any commentary at all, they are frequently labeled a racist. The question about the statistics themselves is totally ignored.
If a person cites statistics that minorities who live in minority communities are the strongest proponents of stop, question, and frisk, because that demonstrably makes minority neighborhoods safer for the people who live there, and the people who live there are the ones who want it and ask for it the most, they are frequently labeled a racist. The evidence about the wants and desires of actual minorities is totally ignored.
People here get annoyed with me for asking them questions that make them uncomfortable; I understand it can be challenging to have to defend something that in your heart you suddenly realize doesn't completely make sense yet you want to hold on to it anyway because it makes you feel better; we are all like that, it is human nature.
Too many people today seem to have trouble separating feelings from behaviors. You can feel whatever you want; that doesn't make rudeness acceptable.
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Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: The Power of SCOTUS VIII redux: IX is being blocked by the Senate.
Keep telling yourself that.
You are not the Socratic gadfly you fancy yourself. You vomit forth a river of artless right-wing talking points and obvious concern trolling. You add nothing interesting to the discussion. You are the Cafe's Kayleigh McEnany.
You're not provocative, you're boring. People slag you and laugh at you and ultimately disengage with you because the persona you play here is a waste of everyone's time.
Doesn't it make you wonder, even a little, why we are willing to rigorously parse and engage people of all political persuasions except you? Do you know the joke about if you look around the table and don't see the bore..?
Keep telling yourself that.
You are not the Socratic gadfly you fancy yourself. You vomit forth a river of artless right-wing talking points and obvious concern trolling. You add nothing interesting to the discussion. You are the Cafe's Kayleigh McEnany.
You're not provocative, you're boring. People slag you and laugh at you and ultimately disengage with you because the persona you play here is a waste of everyone's time.
Doesn't it make you wonder, even a little, why we are willing to rigorously parse and engage people of all political persuasions except you? Do you know the joke about if you look around the table and don't see the bore..?
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Re: The Power of SCOTUS VIII redux: IX is being blocked by the Senate.
Of course it's true. It's also a distraction.
The point has been that police have biased their actions against one group of people more than another. High enough to demonstrate that it's not a statistical increase of crime that is happening, but an actual bias. And that plays out in harsh actions when police shoot black people.
Do police shoot whites? Of course they do- I know a guy that was shot and killed by the cops, just for being drunk.
But again, it's the BIAS.
There are a lot of issues going on-
1) races are shooting themselves- and a good portion of that are black on black.
2) police are being too militaristic in their actions- shooting way too aggressively.
3) police are being biased against blacks.
The issues that can be dealt with via protesting are 2 and 3, not one. So when you bring up one, you are distracting the issues that people want to honestly talk about. And to pretend that you are bringing up some uncomfortable concept, that, too, is total distraction.
So you are not actually being "uncomfortable", you are ignoring the core issue that can be dealt with via a distracting issue.
Of course it's true. It's also a distraction.
The point has been that police have biased their actions against one group of people more than another. High enough to demonstrate that it's not a statistical increase of crime that is happening, but an actual bias. And that plays out in harsh actions when police shoot black people.
Do police shoot whites? Of course they do- I know a guy that was shot and killed by the cops, just for being drunk.
But again, it's the BIAS.
There are a lot of issues going on-
1) races are shooting themselves- and a good portion of that are black on black.
2) police are being too militaristic in their actions- shooting way too aggressively.
3) police are being biased against blacks.
The issues that can be dealt with via protesting are 2 and 3, not one. So when you bring up one, you are distracting the issues that people want to honestly talk about. And to pretend that you are bringing up some uncomfortable concept, that, too, is total distraction.
So you are not actually being "uncomfortable", you are ignoring the core issue that can be dealt with via a distracting issue.
walrus
Wind up workin' in a gas station
Re: The Power of SCOTUS VIII redux: IX is being blocked by the Senate.
Get up on wrong side of bed. Ignore is your friend. Good thing this election cycle is almost over
Get up on wrong side of bed. Ignore is your friend. Good thing this election cycle is almost over
Re: The Power of SCOTUS VIII redux: IX is being blocked by the Senate.
This election has nothing to do with FF being a ginormous doosh.
This election has nothing to do with FF being a ginormous doosh.
walrus
Wind up workin' in a gas station
Re: The Power of SCOTUS VIII redux: IX is being blocked by the Senate.
Ignore is your friend. I can see why folks stay on the D1 board and don't post in here
Ignore is your friend. I can see why folks stay on the D1 board and don't post in here
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
Re: The Power of SCOTUS VIII redux: IX is being blocked by the Senate.
Good...their irrelevance shall grow.
Good...their irrelevance shall grow.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: The Power of SCOTUS VIII redux: IX is being blocked by the Senate.
In the long term it's probably good since they tip their anti-democratic, anti-American hand yet again. In the short term it's bad since voters aren't paying attention and they won't be punished for it.
The ideal situation would be they do their little pout act and the voters shelve them as the sniveling losers they are. But... even shutting down the government and their bare faced lying re: the Garland nomination didn't provoke an outcry against them. They could probably try an actual, armed coup and the eejits who back them still wouldn't be moved to reject them. This has become tribal.
In the long term it's probably good since they tip their anti-democratic, anti-American hand yet again. In the short term it's bad since voters aren't paying attention and they won't be punished for it.
The ideal situation would be they do their little pout act and the voters shelve them as the sniveling losers they are. But... even shutting down the government and their bare faced lying re: the Garland nomination didn't provoke an outcry against them. They could probably try an actual, armed coup and the eejits who back them still wouldn't be moved to reject them. This has become tribal.
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