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The New WCHA IV (2013-14): Unlocked and Cocked

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davyd83 said:
You would have to listen to their specific complaints for those answers. And how many of those complaints are attributable to coaches. ADs or players. Those are the ones that actually matter. My best guess is that most teams (5 of the other 8 in most years) now have to make two Alaska trips a year instead of 2 every three years. Yes I know the Alaska schools do it five to six times for conference games, but do you think they'd do it if there were schools in Seattle, Portland, Vancouver and Kamloops they could travel to instead of Michigan and Minnesota?
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I'm pretty sure the Seawolves would be overjoyed to only have to travel outside 5 or 6 times a season. Try 7 trips outside for UAA. For some of the slow learners that number falls right between 6 and 8. That's every year. And nobody subsidizing that travel either. Yes one (1) trip was of our own volition.
Kinda funny to hear complaints about "having" to come up here at the most twice (2) in one year and not every year and some years only once (1) and other years not at all, that's zero (0).
That travel is being heavily subsidized by the Alaska schools.
Then for that horrible inconvenience they receive home game exemptions to boot.
Guess some folks just like to whine.
But we just like to play hockey and are willing to pony up to do it.
It's a new day and a great day to be a Seawolf!
 
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FWIW, my experience I'm junior hockey showed me that the guys that **** up or have problems with coaches get traded to Alaska.:p
 
Seawolf Fan said:
I'm pretty sure the Seawolves would be overjoyed to only have to travel outside 5 or 6 times a season. Try 7 trips outside for UAA. For some of the slow learners that number falls right between 6 and 8. That's every year. And nobody subsidizing that travel either. Yes one (1) trip was of our own volition.
Kinda funny to hear complaints about "having" to come up here at the most twice (2) in one year and not every year and some years only once (1) and other years not at all, that's zero (0).
That travel is being heavily subsidized by the Alaska schools.
Then for that horrible inconvenience they receive home game exemptions to boot.
Guess some folks just like to whine.
But we just like to play hockey and are willing to pony up to do it.
It's a new day and a great day to be a Seawolf!
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Would you pony up to do it if you didn't have to? As for 5 or 6 trips in conference, you usually do at least one two weekend trip and occasionally two. At least Fairbanks does two doubles from time to time. Two doubles equals five trips down. No subsidy for you? Who would come there without it? You'd be in the All Alaska Hockey a Conference. Again, it's highly unlikely Fairbanks and Anchorage would volunteer to do it if they had any other option. The Ferris States, NMUs and Lake Superiors are under no more obligation to go to Alaska for hockey than they are for basketball. If that travel is so desirable, why haven't the Alaska schools applied to the GLIAC or NSIC for their other sports? Now, that being said, my favorite trip of the year was Anchorage, although the trip home sucked, not getting in until 20 hours after leaving. The trip to Fairbanks was my least favorite, not because of the people or atmosphere in Fairbanks, but because of a cancelled flight that got me there in time to take a cab from the airport to the rink. 35 hours of travel 36 hours in Fairbanks. Tell me if those are conditions you would choose if you had the choice. I admire what the coaches and players there endure because I know what one or two trips does to me. It really is amazing what they go through, like UAA did over the holidays. But because they have to, doesn't mean anyone else should want to or even like it. But it is what it is, so we all endure.
 
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davyd83 said:
Would you pony up to do it if you didn't have to? As for 5 or 6 trips in conference, you usually do at least one two weekend trip and occasionally two. At least Fairbanks does two doubles from time to time. Two doubles equals five trips down. No subsidy for you? Who would come there without it? You'd be in the All Alaska Hockey a Conference. Again, it's highly unlikely Fairbanks and Anchorage would volunteer to do it if they had any other option. The Ferris States, NMUs and Lake Superiors are under no more obligation to go to Alaska for hockey than they are for basketball. If that travel is so desirable, why haven't the Alaska schools applied to the GLIAC or NSIC for their other sports? Now, that being said, my favorite trip of the year was Anchorage, although the trip home sucked, not getting in until 20 hours after leaving. The trip to Fairbanks was my least favorite, not because of the people or atmosphere in Fairbanks, but because of a cancelled flight that got me there in time to take a cab from the airport to the rink. 35 hours of travel 36 hours in Fairbanks. Tell me if those are conditions you would choose if you had the choice. I admire what the coaches and players there endure because I know what one or two trips does to me. It really is amazing what they go through, like UAA did over the holidays. But because they have to, doesn't mean anyone else should want to or even like it. But it is what it is, so we all endure.
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When you get to Wisconsin be sure to buy some cheese.
 
davyd83 said:
Would you pony up to do it if you didn't have to? As for 5 or 6 trips in conference, you usually do at least one two weekend trip and occasionally two. At least Fairbanks does two doubles from time to time. Two doubles equals five trips down. No subsidy for you? Who would come there without it? You'd be in the All Alaska Hockey a Conference. Again, it's highly unlikely Fairbanks and Anchorage would volunteer to do it if they had any other option. The Ferris States, NMUs and Lake Superiors are under no more obligation to go to Alaska for hockey than they are for basketball. If that travel is so desirable, why haven't the Alaska schools applied to the GLIAC or NSIC for their other sports? Now, that being said, my favorite trip of the year was Anchorage, although the trip home sucked, not getting in until 20 hours after leaving. The trip to Fairbanks was my least favorite, not because of the people or atmosphere in Fairbanks, but because of a cancelled flight that got me there in time to take a cab from the airport to the rink. 35 hours of travel 36 hours in Fairbanks. Tell me if those are conditions you would choose if you had the choice. I admire what the coaches and players there endure because I know what one or two trips does to me. It really is amazing what they go through, like UAA did over the holidays. But because they have to, doesn't mean anyone else should want to or even like it. But it is what it is, so we all endure.
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And yet the idea apparently is quite appealing to schools who are not currently engaged in conference play with UAA or UAf.
 
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davyd83 said:
...The trip to Fairbanks was my least favorite, not because of the people or atmosphere in Fairbanks, but because of a cancelled flight that got me there in time to take a cab from the airport to the rink. 35 hours of travel 36 hours in Fairbanks. ...
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The team didn't have a problem getting to Fairbanks early. ;)
 
Re: The New WCHA IV (2013-14): Unlocked and Cocked

davyd83 said:
You would have to listen to their specific complaints for those answers. And how many of those complaints are attributable to coaches. ADs or players. Those are the ones that actually matter. My best guess is that most teams (5 of the other 8 in most years) now have to make two Alaska trips a year instead of 2 every three years. Yes I know the Alaska schools do it five to six times for conference games, but do you think they'd do it if there were schools in Seattle, Portland, Vancouver and Kamloops they could travel to instead of Michigan and Minnesota?
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I would also argue that it's not so much the cost as it is the fact that the travel is compounding. If you have 2 trips to Alaska, and a couple of 10+ hour bus rides, that piles up. If you really think about it, the idea that all our schools are doing these long trips when we're used to 2-4 hour trips in past years. Those closer schools are still there, but we're just not playing them. It's, frankly, asinine to build the conferences with this structure.
 
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Bale said:
It's, frankly, asinine to build the conferences with this structure.
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Well, this is what you get when you let the idiots at UND and DU actually make decisions. Its like letting a 4 year old drive a bus.
 
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uaafanblog said:
And yet the idea apparently is quite appealing to schools who are not currently engaged in conference play with UAA or UAf.
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Yep, every 3-4 years it is.

It isn't an insult to the Alaska schools. It's just the reality that it's a much, much more draining trip when you can travel 2-4 hours on a bus to schools that are a lot closer. Geography isn't on Alaska's side.
 
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What Alaska fans have to realize is that you have no other option, but a two team league or travel. The other schools have more of a choice right or wrong. Bowling Green is the only team in the nWCHA that sponsors division one sports including football. The Three MAC schools don't have the sports budget that the 6 Big Ten, Notre Dame, and Boston College have that play division one football. Miami has sold out other sports for hockey. I looked and I could not afford their season tickets and seat license. I have been watching college hockey for 38 years and I miss the CCHA. If we could get back to a league where I could get to more road games, I would be happy.
 
Hockey John said:
What Alaska fans have to realize is that you have no other option, but a two team league or travel. The other schools have more of a choice right or wrong. Bowling Green is the only team in the nWCHA that sponsors division one sports including football. The Three MAC schools don't have the sports budget that the 6 Big Ten, Notre Dame, and Boston College have that play division one football. Miami has sold out other sports for hockey. I looked and I could not afford their season tickets and seat license. I have been watching college hockey for 38 years and I miss the CCHA. If we could get back to a league where I could get to more road games, I would be happy.
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It isn't Alaska "fans," it's Donald. It's not fair to lump them all in with the man whose blogs at times make Slap Shot look like family fare.
 
Pink Pony said:
What about the UAA team that had to spend a whole week in the lower 48 because of wheather.
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What about them? It was a very difficult situation. The coaches and players and their school responded incredibly well. But I am certain it wasn't all love and roses every time their departure got pushed back. No one wants to go through that.
 
Re: The New WCHA IV (2013-14): Unlocked and Cocked

So many new things to take in! Youth Hockey and wheather!!! I don't know how I keep from wetting myself!
 
Re: The New WCHA IV (2013-14): Unlocked and Cocked

uaafanblog said:
And yet the idea apparently is quite appealing to schools who are not currently engaged in conference play with UAA or UAf.
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Everybody goes to Disneyland . . . and no one wants to go there several times a year.

Seawolf Fan said:
When you get to Wisconsin be sure to buy some cheese.
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Seawolf Fan said:
I'm pretty sure the Seawolves would be overjoyed to only have to travel outside 5 or 6 times a season. Try 7 trips outside for UAA.
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What with you guys? Here's what I don't get - Alaskans pride themselves for being rugged, for being far away from 'the rest', and for overcoming a daunting environment. Alaskans like to say that Alaska isn't a place 'for everybody' and are proud that they can manage where others cannot. So . . . why do you get cheesed when others agree with you and acknowledge that fact by saying they would rather not travel there regularly. Even Seawolf Fan says that his team would be "overjoyed" to have their number of trips reduced. You're arguing from both sides of the fence.
 
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