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The Greatest Athlete of All-time

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Chrissie Wellington. 4 time Ironman world champion, and has never lost at the 140.6 distance. Never. She even won Kona last year after a nasty, nasty bike spill roughly a week and a half before the race and massive infection as a result.
 
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I was browsing the list of Wheaties box covers and I came across this nugget for serious nomination cred:

Cael Norman Sanderson (pronounced /ˈkeɪl/, KALE; born June 20, 1979, in Salt Lake City, Utah) is considered one of the greatest American amateur wrestlers in recent years. A 2004 Olympic champion in Athens, Greece, he went undefeated in four years of college wrestling at Iowa State University (159–0), winning four consecutive NCAA titles (1999–2002). He is the only wrestler in NCAA Division I history to go undefeated in official matches with more than 100 wins. Sports Illustrated named his college career as the second most impressive college sports feat behind the setting of four world records by Jesse Owens in a single hour at the 1935 Big Ten track and field conference championship meet.[emphasis added]



I also noticed two names from the "early" years of pro football, Sammy Baugh and Bronco Nagursky, dominating two-way players.

....which brings to mind a question of methodology when you conduct your seeding and voting. (new post for that).


More on Jim Thorpe, of which I did not know details:

Considered one of the most versatile athletes of modern sports, he won Olympic gold medals for the 1912 pentathlon and decathlon, played American football (collegiate and professional), and also played professional baseball and basketball. He lost his Olympic titles after it was found he was paid for playing two seasons of semi-professional baseball before competing in the Olympics, thus violating the amateurism rules. In 1983, 30 years after his death, the International Olympic Committee (IOC) restored his Olympic medals....In a poll of sports fans conducted by ABC Sports, Thorpe was voted the Greatest Athlete of the Twentieth Century out of 15 other athletes including Muhammad Ali, Babe Ruth, Jesse Owens, Jack Nicklaus and Michael Jordan.
 
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A question on methodology.....are you planning merely to put the names out there and let people vote, assuming people will take it seriously and do their own background research? will you provide a brief bio and reason why each particular person is on the list?


While the following idea might not be feasible, it could be intriguing if you stir up enough interest....
I've read that, when the Pro Football Writers consider nominations for the Pro Football Hall of Fame, each candidate has something like a "sponsor" who makes the case for inclusion. You might offer up to people reading the thread the option to volunteer as "sponsor" for some of the people on your list of 128, so that they could provide reasons (a few sentences) why their person should receive votes.
 
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A question on methodology.....are you planning merely to put the names out there and let people vote, assuming people will take it seriously and do their own background research? will you provide a brief bio and reason why each particular person is on the list?


While the following idea might not be feasible, it could be intriguing if you stir up enough interest....
I've read that, when the Pro Football Writers consider nominations for the Pro Football Hall of Fame, each candidate has something like a "sponsor" who makes the case for inclusion. You might offer up to people reading the thread the option to volunteer as "sponsor" for some of the people on your list of 128, so that they could provide reasons (a few sentences) why their person should receive votes.
I don't think I'll get enough interest for the sponsor thing. I wasn't planning on writing any summary, other than posting a link to their wikipedia page.
 
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I want to post the list so far, because I have a feeling that I'm missing some obvious ones, and also that I might have included some that don't belong. (its hard to find that line) (also, some might complain that I included some of the young guys that are still playing, I've tossed it back and forth in my head whether I should or not. I feel like there are better players of the past, but also want to have some of the recent guys to have as a measuring stick)

Hockey:
Wayne Gretzky
Mark Messier
Bobby Orr
Mario Lemieux
Gordie Howe
Brett Hull
Patrick Roy
John Mayasich :D
Sid Crosby
Steve Yzerman
Martin Brodeur
Alex Ovechkin
Marcel Dionne
Hobey Baker

Basketball:
Michael Jordan
Wilt Chamberlain
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Magic Johnson
Bill Russell
Kobe Bryant
Karl Malone
Moses Malone
Larry Bird
LeBron James
Shaquille O'Neal
 
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Baseball:
Babe Ruth
Sandy Koufax
Ted Williams
Walter Johnson
Cy Young
Barry Bonds
Jackie Robinson
Ty Cobb
Hank Aaron
Mickey Mantle
Lou Gehrig
Josh Gibson
Stan Musial
Pete Rose
Roger Clemens
Dave Winfield (because of his excellence at several sports)
Pedro Martinez
Jimmy Foxx
Alex Rodriguez
Nolan Ryan
Willie Mays
Ricky Henderson

Boxing:
Muhammad Ali
Sugar Ray Robinson
Mike Tyson
Joe Louis
 
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Football:
Jim Thorpe
Barry Sanders
Jerry Rice
Walter Payton
Lawrence Taylor
Jim Brown
Deion Sanders
Emmitt Smith
Joe Montana
Dick Butkus
Dan Marino
Peyton Manning
Reggie White
Bo Jackson
Brett Favre
Tom Brady
Bronco Nagursky
Terrell Owens
John Elway

Golf:
Tiger Woods
Jack Nicklaus
Arnold Palmer
Babe Didrickson (among other sports)

Soccer: (2 guys I found via google)
Pele
Diego Maradona
 
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Track and Field:
Jesse Owens
Carl Lewis
Usain Bolt
Michael Johnson

Tennis:
Roger Federer
Pete Sampras
Rod Laver
Martina Navratilova

Auto Racing:
Dale Earnhardt
Richard Petty
Michael Schumaker

Swimming:
Michael Phelps
Mark Spitz
 
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Wrestling:
Dan Gable

Horse Racing:
Secretariat

Gymnastics:
Nadia Comaneci

Cricket: (more thanks to Google on this one)
Donald Bradman
Sachin Tendulkar

Cycling:
Lance Armstrong

Eating:
Takeru Kobayashi

Bowling:
Dick Weber

Triathalon:
Chrissie Wellington

Rodeo:
Ty Murray
 
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I vote for the last guy Hokydad told us about.
 
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A couple more I added:
Shawn White
Bodacious
Chris Evert
Man O War

Does Lindsey Vonn belong on this list? She is pretty much the most successful downhill skier ever.

Also, before I fill it out all the way to 128, can I actually have a poll with 16 choices?
 
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For Tennis, please add arguably the # 1 woman's player of all time, Steffi Graf.

For wrestling, please add Cael Sanderson, # 2 on Sports Illustrated greatest collegiate athletic feats (second only to Jesse Owens setting four world records on the same day!).

For soccer, please add Mia Hamm and Michelle Akers and Eric Cantona (the Wikipedia entry doesn't do him justice, I'll see if I can find a youtube link to some of his most amazing goals).

For basketball, no list is comlete without Diana Taurasi, the 2nd-best college basketball player I have ever seen of either gender who also has a distinguished Olympic and professional career as well.


For track and field, please add Edwin Moses, Rafer Johnson, Al Oerter (four Olympic gold medals in discus), Roman Šebrle (decathlon world record holder), Bob Mathias (two gold medals in decathlon!), Florence Griffith-Joyner, Jackie Joyner Kersey, Marian Jones (although tainted with suspicion of PED use might disqualify her inclusion?). Hmm... I am being too US-centric here perhaps...?

For swimming would you exclude some of the East German women who were unknowingly treated with steroids, like Kornelia Ender? (I still remember the shoulders on that woman!). Amazing athletic feats, absolutely astonishing, albeit possibly tainted by the "bionic woman" approach of East German doctors.


also, rather than listing everyone by individual sports, might it make sense to list some people (e.g., Jim Thorpe, Wilt Chamberlain) as multi-sport athletes? Based on the list so far I'd have Thorpe # 1 and Wilt # 2 for all-around versatility plus longevity plus achievement.

and I concur with Lynah Fan; no animals please...any nameless large feline carnivore could probably rip the best human athlete to shreds in seconds, but what would that prove? any full-grown male gorilla, properly trained, would outcompete any human being for strength and agility.
 
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Isn't it Dara Torres? ;)

I'll add her. I'm just trying to get to 128 now, going for the more fringe sports to get more variety, I really don't think we need more football/basketball/hockey/baseball guys, unless someone finds someone obvious that I missed.

Also, I'm adding Jennie Finch as well.
 
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Max of 20.

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What about Keith Hernandez for baseball?

Also, would you consider Pujols?
Ah, yes, if I have A-rod on there, I should have Pujols also.

I don't think Hernandez is good enough, but if others agree that he should be there, I'll add him. I just think there are others in baseball that I've left off that I'd put ahead of Hernandez.
 
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A couple more I added:
Shawn White
Bodacious
Chris Evert
Man O War

Does Lindsey Vonn belong on this list? She is pretty much the most successful downhill skier ever.

Also, before I fill it out all the way to 128, can I actually have a poll with 16 choices?

Loved Bodacious!! I know a few got to stay on for 8 seconds but almost everyone else who tried paid a big price for the ride of their life.
 
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