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The Global War on Terror 5.0: Putin on the Risk

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GrinCDXX said:
Specifically, that means doing...what?
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That, sir, is the $100 million question.

There's going to be a large conflagration someplace that is going to ignite a powder keg.

The Pentagon spokesman just said the ultimate solution will be political. I submit he is naive. He forgets "Carthago delenda est."
 
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I'm pretty sure Iraq taught us once and for all that even if we get to play Rambo and run around blowing stuff up and jerking ourselves off, afterwards, the ultimate solution is still political.

You can't smash the world less complicated, as much of a bummer as that is. The more you smash, the more complicated the clean up job is.
 
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Bob Gray said:
It's a very interesting question of what would have become of Germany if Hitler wasn't in the picture. We'll never know, but certainly he was a rather unique figure who was able to grab the reigns of power and then push all the ills that resulted. Nobody else in the Nazi camp strikes me as being remotely as capable of doing what Hitler did, but certainly Germany had a lot of challenging issues at the time and was a setting ripe for extremism to take root, whether Nazi or otherwise.
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Agreed. We forget that in the 20s the US wasn't far from very questionable wars in its own right, was kicking Indians around reservations, had widespread racism and a KKK membership over 6 million. Hindsight is very convenient.
 
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The Sicatoka said:
UK Telegraph is running with it:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...n-Sotloff-beheaded-by-Islamic-State-live.html

So when do we deal with this "JV" in the only language they understand.
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Don't hold your breath waiting for President Feckless to do anything.

Meanwhile, the parents of a dead Seal Team Six member make no bones about how they feel about the Golfer-in-Chief.

As Commander-in-Chief, your actions — or lack thereof — Mr. President, cost lives. As you bumble about in your golf cart, slapping on a happy face and fist-pounding your buddies, your cowardly lack of leadership has left a gaping hole — not only in America’s security — but the security of the entire globe. Your message has come across loud and clear, sir: You are not up to this job. You know it. We know it. The world knows it.

Please vacate the people’s house and allow a man or woman of courage and substance to seize the reigns of this out-of-control thug-fest and regain the balance we, America, have provided throughout our great history.

Thanks to your “leadership” from whatever multi-million dollar vacation you happen to be on at any given moment, the world is in chaos. What’s been gained, you’ve lost. What’s been lost, you’ve decimated. You’ve demolished our ability to hold the trust of allies. You’ve made a mockery of the title “President.” And you’ve betrayed the nation for which my son and over 1.3 million others have sacrificed their very lives.
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SteveP said:
Don't hold your breath waiting for President Feckless to do anything.

Meanwhile, the parents of a dead Seal Team Six member make no bones about how they feel about the Golfer-in-Chief.
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I fail to see how the World's problems are America's fault, or Obama's for that matter. Sounds like some bitter people there.

This world engagement anti-evil slant that Republicans want to take in World Affairs has been proven over and over and over again not to work. Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, numerous African countries, numerous Central American locations, parts of Mexico, hell even the Soviet Union. The biggest mistake the World made was eliminating the concept of "to the victor, goes the spoils". It's too expensive to save these countless morons from themselves and get nothing in return except years of occupation that they don't want and the minute we leave, boom Civil War.
 
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5mn_Major said:
Agreed. We forget that in the 20s the US wasn't far from very questionable wars in its own right, was kicking Indians around reservations, had widespread racism and a KKK membership over 6 million. Hindsight is very convenient.
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You left out Latin America.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
I fail to see how the World's problems are America's fault, or Obama's for that matter. Sounds like some bitter people there.

This world engagement anti-evil slant that Republicans want to take in World Affairs has been proven over and over and over again not to work. Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, numerous African countries, numerous Central American locations, parts of Mexico, hell even the Soviet Union. The biggest mistake the World made was eliminating the concept of "to the victor, goes the spoils". It's too expensive to save these countless morons from themselves and get nothing in return except years of occupation that they don't want and the minute we leave, boom Civil War.
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It's not just the parents of a dead Navy SEAL, the GOP and conservatives that are fed up with the lack of leadership. It's more than half of the ****ed country and even the bloody mainstream media, or at least the Washington Post.

Polls have increasingly shown that Americans view Obama as a weak commander in chief without much direction or heft to his foreign policy. The latest is a Pew Research Center survey, released shortly before Obama's errant statement Thursday, that showed 54 percent of Americans say he's "not tough enough" when it comes to foreign policy and national security.

Just 36 percent said Obama has shown about the right amount of toughness. Mind you, this is after he launched airstrikes in Iraq.

As the graph above shows, Obama is regressing on this measure. And the same poll showed just 35 percent of Americans approve of Obama when it comes to both Iraq and the Ukraine/Russia situation – both below his overall approval rating of 42 percent.

Of course, people saying you’re not tough enough or disapproving of your job performance aren’t the same things as them saying you don’t have a strategy. But all of these things are intertwined, and there are plenty of data points to suggest people don’t think Obama has a particularly firm grasp on his strategy for dealing with world affairs.
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Conservatism today makes me very, very sad.

Nuke the whales. Great platform aholes.
 
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If it moves, shoot it. If it keeps on moving, nuke it. If it stops moving, send in Halliburton at 10x the normal cost to rebuild it.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
The biggest mistake the World made was eliminating the concept of "to the victor, goes the spoils".
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When I hear the administration talk about who'll administrate the region after a conflict I know they aren't serious much less to be taken seriously. They sound more like soccer moms making sure no one keeps score of the game.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
I fail to see how the World's problems are America's fault, or Obama's for that matter. Sounds like some bitter people there.

This world engagement anti-evil slant that Republicans want to take in World Affairs has been proven over and over and over again not to work. Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, numerous African countries, numerous Central American locations, parts of Mexico, hell even the Soviet Union. The biggest mistake the World made was eliminating the concept of "to the victor, goes the spoils". It's too expensive to save these countless morons from themselves and get nothing in return except years of occupation that they don't want and the minute we leave, boom Civil War.
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Scooby for the win! There's something basic that all knuckledraggers miss, whether they're on Meet the Press bleating their tired nonsense or out here on the USCHO message board, which is "what would you do differently in the Middle East". Its a question no one will answer. So, I put it to SteveP - what would YOU do differently than Obama in Iraq and Syria? Send in US ground troops??? If that's the goal, conservatives need to man up and say it instead of posting bitter screeds with no solutions. :rolleyes:
 
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Rover said:
What would you do differently in the Middle East?
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Bingo. As long as someone responsible doesn't let this question go unanswered, it would really quell this derp-dispensing here and on the Sunday morning talk shows.
 
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That's been the issue with this generation's GOP. No solutions, just criticism. My guess is that it stems from the conservative media...but its a big problem for this country.
 
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5mn_Major said:
That's been the issue with this generation's GOP. No solutions, just criticism. My guess is that it stems from the conservative media...but its a big problem for this country.
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Oh, they have solutions.

Trickle Down Economics and War. That's 1 and 1A for their solutions to everything.
 
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