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Re: The College Hockey Championship Belt Part III
I'm well aware the scrimmages count against the NCAA 34, but not the Ivy 29.
I'm well aware the scrimmages count against the NCAA 34, but not the Ivy 29.
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The College Hockey Championship Belt Part III
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Ralph Baer
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Ralph Baer
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Ralph Baer
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Re: The College Hockey Championship Belt Part III
interesting point that it does count against the NCAA limit. There are new things popping up every few years which haven't been dealt with before, and the thread where we discussed things has been expunged by USCHO.
interesting point that it does count against the NCAA limit. There are new things popping up every few years which haven't been dealt with before, and the thread where we discussed things has been expunged by USCHO.
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Re: The College Hockey Championship Belt Part III
They've been doing this for years, so if we were to count the "scrimmages" all of a sudden, we'd have to go way back and update not only the Ivy belt proceedings, but potentially ECAC, New England, and "Belt". Because they don't count for RatingsPI/PWR stipulations, they are exhibition games. And as previously stated, those don't count here, even if both teams are eligible for the belt in question.
But yes, the NCAA by-laws are very particular as to what constitutes an official "contest". These sorts of matches are not exempt under any circumstances, similar to matches against D-III or ACHA opponents.
They've been doing this for years, so if we were to count the "scrimmages" all of a sudden, we'd have to go way back and update not only the Ivy belt proceedings, but potentially ECAC, New England, and "Belt". Because they don't count for RatingsPI/PWR stipulations, they are exhibition games. And as previously stated, those don't count here, even if both teams are eligible for the belt in question.
But yes, the NCAA by-laws are very particular as to what constitutes an official "contest". These sorts of matches are not exempt under any circumstances, similar to matches against D-III or ACHA opponents.
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Sean Pickett
2009 NCAA Champions
Re: The College Hockey Championship Belt Part III
There may be other such games in the belt's history (I know of other games reported as scrimmages at the time that our now counted as official games) and if they are found I expect they will be handled the same way. However, when a game is known to be a scrimmage/exhibition in advance, the game is not counted as a defense of the belt.
Sean
Actually, BC defeated Harvard on 2 Mar 1922 and it is counted as an official game by both BC and Harvard today. However, at the time it was not a sanctioned game by either school's athletic department. The newspapers the next day reported the Harvard team was a mix of varsity, second string and freshman, players (and was missing three varsity and 2 second string players), while the BC team was their varsity team. This game actually affected the championship belt and since both schools now count the game Ralph created an alternate belt (the first one created I believe) for BC, but let Harvard keep the belt.
There may be other such games in the belt's history (I know of other games reported as scrimmages at the time that our now counted as official games) and if they are found I expect they will be handled the same way. However, when a game is known to be a scrimmage/exhibition in advance, the game is not counted as a defense of the belt.
Sean
Sean Pickett
2009 NCAA Champions
Re: The College Hockey Championship Belt Part III
Sean
Ralph, Once upon a time I wrote my posts in Word before copying and posting them. I still have some of my posts for the belt thread and I can repost them if you are interested. However, most involve information/lists of various belts and most of the posts are likely nonsensical out of context.
Sean
Ralph Baer
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Re: The College Hockey Championship Belt Part III
it doesn't sound worth the trouble. I have all the Belt histories. They are also posted in the first posts of this thread (except for newer stuff, of course).
it doesn't sound worth the trouble. I have all the Belt histories. They are also posted in the first posts of this thread (except for newer stuff, of course).
Ralph Baer
Let's Go 'Tute!
Re: The College Hockey Championship Belt Part III
Saturday update
Corrections are always appreciated.
Saturday update
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<u>Current Holder</u> <u>Next Defense</u>[b]
The Belt North Dakota Canisius 10/07/2016[/b]
AHC Belt RIT Robert Morris 10/07/2016
B1G Belt Michigan Penn State 12/01/2016
ECAC Belt Quinnipiac Clarkson 11/04/2016
HEA Belt Northeastern Vermont 10/30/2016
NCHC Belt St. Cloud State Minnesota Duluth 11/04/2016
WCHA Belt Alabama Huntsville Ferris State 10/02/2016
Ivy Belt Dartmouth Cornell 11/03/2016
New England Belt Northeastern Vermont 10/30/2016
Massachusetts Belt Northeastern Bentley 10/08/2016
Michigan Belt Western Michigan Michigan State 12/29/2016
Minnesota Belt St. Cloud State Minnesota State 10/14/2016
New York Belt St. Lawrence Union 11/11/2016
D-II Play-up Belt Alabama Huntsville Ferris State 10/02/2016
D-III Play-up Belt St. Lawrence Union 11/11/2016
Play-up Belt St. Lawrence Union 11/11/2016Corrections are always appreciated.
Ralph Baer
Let's Go 'Tute!
Re: The College Hockey Championship Belt Part III
Sunday update
Corrections are always appreciated.
Sunday update
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<u>Current Holder</u> <u>Next Defense</u>[b]
The Belt North Dakota Canisius 10/07/2016[/b]
AHC Belt RIT Robert Morris 10/07/2016
B1G Belt Michigan Penn State 12/01/2016
ECAC Belt Quinnipiac Clarkson 11/04/2016
HEA Belt Northeastern Vermont 10/30/2016
NCHC Belt St. Cloud State Minnesota Duluth 11/04/2016
WCHA Belt Alabama Huntsville Michigan Tech 10/14/2016
Ivy Belt Dartmouth Cornell 11/03/2016
New England Belt Northeastern Quinnipiac 10/07/2016
Massachusetts Belt Northeastern Bentley 10/14/2016
Michigan Belt Western Michigan Michigan State 12/29/2016
Minnesota Belt St. Cloud State Minnesota State 10/14/2016
New York Belt St. Lawrence Union 11/11/2016
D-II Play-up Belt Alabama Huntsville Michigan Tech 10/14/2016
D-III Play-up Belt St. Lawrence Union 11/11/2016
Play-up Belt St. Lawrence Union 11/11/2016Corrections are always appreciated.
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TheRevengeance
2016 Hockey East Overlords
Re: The College Hockey Championship Belt Part III
Why are QU and Bentley not eligible to take the New England belt from NU?
Why are QU and Bentley not eligible to take the New England belt from NU?
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Ralph Baer
Let's Go 'Tute!
Re: The College Hockey Championship Belt Part III
That's why I write "Corrections are always appreciated."
Thanks. I muffed the MA Belt too. I fixed the last post.
Anything else?
That's why I write "Corrections are always appreciated."
Thanks. I muffed the MA Belt too. I fixed the last post. Anything else?
Re: The College Hockey Championship Belt Part III
Here comes Bucky!
But if Badgers coach Tony Granato had it his way, this season would be the last where old rival North Dakota doesn’t appear on the schedule.
“I would like to play them every year,” he said. “For me, North Dakota-Wisconsin is a must-have on the schedule. There’s too much history. And they want the same, talking to their coaches.
“It’d be nice if they were in our league but they’re not, so let’s find a way to play them every year and keep that going.”
UW and North Dakota, longtime opponents when both were part of the Western Collegiate Hockey Association, played non-conference series in Madison in November 2014 and in Grand Forks in November 2015 after the teams left for separate leagues in 2013.
Here comes Bucky!
But if Badgers coach Tony Granato had it his way, this season would be the last where old rival North Dakota doesn’t appear on the schedule.
“I would like to play them every year,” he said. “For me, North Dakota-Wisconsin is a must-have on the schedule. There’s too much history. And they want the same, talking to their coaches.
“It’d be nice if they were in our league but they’re not, so let’s find a way to play them every year and keep that going.”
UW and North Dakota, longtime opponents when both were part of the Western Collegiate Hockey Association, played non-conference series in Madison in November 2014 and in Grand Forks in November 2015 after the teams left for separate leagues in 2013.
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So I'm sure there's a Wisconsin thread...
Ralph Baer
Let's Go 'Tute!
Re: The College Hockey Championship Belt Part III
I was trying to figure out what error I might have made that Bratbill was hinting it.
I was trying to figure out what error I might have made that Bratbill was hinting it.
Ralph Baer
Let's Go 'Tute!
Re: The College Hockey Championship Belt Part III
Congrats to North Dakota on retaining the Belt.
Corrections are always appreciated.
Congrats to North Dakota on retaining the Belt.
Code:
<u>Current Holder</u> <u>Next Defense</u>[b]
The Belt North Dakota Canisius 10/08/2016[/b]
AHC Belt RIT Robert Morris 10/08/2016
B1G Belt Michigan Penn State 12/01/2016
ECAC Belt Quinnipiac Clarkson 11/04/2016
HEA Belt Northeastern Vermont 10/30/2016
NCHC Belt St. Cloud State Minnesota Duluth 11/04/2016
WCHA Belt Alabama Huntsville Michigan Tech 10/14/2016
Ivy Belt Dartmouth Cornell 11/03/2016
New England Belt Northeastern Quinnipiac 10/08/2016
Massachusetts Belt Northeastern Bentley 10/14/2016
Michigan Belt Western Michigan Michigan State 12/29/2016
Minnesota Belt St. Cloud State Minnesota State 10/14/2016
New York Belt St. Lawrence Union 11/11/2016
D-II Play-up Belt Alabama Huntsville Michigan Tech 10/14/2016
D-III Play-up Belt St. Lawrence Union 11/11/2016
Play-up Belt St. Lawrence Union 11/11/2016Corrections are always appreciated.
Ralph Baer
Let's Go 'Tute!
Re: The College Hockey Championship Belt Part III
Congrats to North Dakota on retaining the Belt.
Corrections are always appreciated.
Congrats to North Dakota on retaining the Belt.
Code:
<u>Current Holder</u> <u>Next Defense</u>[b]
The Belt North Dakota Rensselaer 10/15/2016[/b]
AHC Belt Robert Morris Canisius 10/21/2016
B1G Belt Michigan Penn State 12/01/2016
ECAC Belt Quinnipiac Clarkson 11/04/2016
HEA Belt Northeastern Vermont 10/30/2016
NCHC Belt St. Cloud State Minnesota Duluth 11/04/2016
WCHA Belt Alabama Huntsville Michigan Tech 10/14/2016
Ivy Belt Dartmouth Cornell 11/03/2016
New England Belt Quinnipiac Maine 10/14/2016
Massachusetts Belt Northeastern Bentley 10/14/2016
Michigan Belt Western Michigan Michigan State 12/29/2016
Minnesota Belt St. Cloud State Minnesota State 10/14/2016
New York Belt St. Lawrence Union 11/11/2016
D-II Play-up Belt Alabama Huntsville Michigan Tech 10/14/2016
D-III Play-up Belt St. Lawrence Union 11/11/2016
Play-up Belt St. Lawrence Union 11/11/2016Corrections are always appreciated.
Ralph Baer
Let's Go 'Tute!
Re: The College Hockey Championship Belt Part III
Friday update
Corrections are always appreciated.
Friday update
Code:
<u>Current Holder</u> <u>Next Defense</u>[b]
The Belt North Dakota Rensselaer 10/15/2016[/b]
AHC Belt Robert Morris Canisius 10/21/2016
B1G Belt Michigan Penn State 12/01/2016
ECAC Belt Quinnipiac Clarkson 11/04/2016
HEA Belt Northeastern Vermont 10/30/2016
NCHC Belt St. Cloud State Minnesota Duluth 11/04/2016
WCHA Belt Michigan Tech Alabama Huntsville 10/15/2016
Ivy Belt Dartmouth Cornell 11/03/2016
New England Belt Maine Quinnipiac 10/15/2016
Massachusetts Belt Northeastern Bentley 10/15/2016
Michigan Belt Western Michigan Michigan State 12/29/2016
Minnesota Belt Minnesota State St. Cloud State 10/15/2016
New York Belt St. Lawrence Union 11/11/2016
D-II Play-up Belt Michigan Tech Alabama Huntsville 10/15/2016
D-III Play-up Belt St. Lawrence Union 11/11/2016
Play-up Belt St. Lawrence Union 11/11/2016Corrections are always appreciated.
Ralph Baer
Let's Go 'Tute!
Re: The College Hockey Championship Belt Part III
Congrats to North Dakota on retaining the Belt.
Corrections are always appreciated.
Congrats to North Dakota on retaining the Belt.
Code:
<u>Current Holder</u> <u>Next Defense</u>[b]
The Belt North Dakota Bemidji State 10/21/2016[/b]
AHC Belt Robert Morris Canisius 10/21/2016
B1G Belt Michigan Penn State 12/01/2016
ECAC Belt Quinnipiac Clarkson 11/04/2016
HEA Belt Northeastern Vermont 10/30/2016
NCHC Belt St. Cloud State Minnesota Duluth 11/04/2016
WCHA Belt Michigan Tech Northern Michigan 10/28/2016
Ivy Belt Dartmouth Cornell 11/03/2016
New England Belt Quinnipiac Connecticut 10/19/2016
Massachusetts Belt Northeastern Boston University 11/04/2016
Michigan Belt Western Michigan Michigan State 12/29/2016
Minnesota Belt Minnesota State Bemidji State 11/11/2016
New York Belt St. Lawrence Union 11/11/2016
D-II Play-up Belt Michigan Tech Northern Michigan 10/28/2016
D-III Play-up Belt St. Lawrence Union 11/11/2016
Play-up Belt St. Lawrence Union 11/11/2016Corrections are always appreciated.
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