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The Bible: Real, Fiction, or somewhere in between?

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ShirtlessBob said:
One thing that I either don't like, or can't understand about church is this notion of doubt being bad. "You doubt this? You're plagued by demons!"

Thomas gets a bad rap, or, as Paul Tillich wrote, "doubt is not the opposite of faith, it is an element of faith."
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Nothing necessarily wrong with doubt. Questioning things is an inherent part of the journey we're all on. If someone's telling you not to doubt, they don't really understand things and may just want you to accept what they think about a certain issue/situation/whatever.
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
Sure - he's decided his time is worth Sunday church, because even if there isn't a God, he hedged his bet anyway and got something positive out of the experience.
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For many people, going to church every week is a form of social bonding, a way to develop and maintain a cohesive community of people with shared beliefs and values. That's what many people crave, to belong to something greater and more purposeful than themselves, especially in this age of "look at me and all the cool stuff I own!" superficiality.
 
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One thing that has always annoyed me about Christian doctrine is describing Jesus as the "only" Son of God.

I'm fine with the "Son of God" part, it's merely the claim of exclusivity that seems a bit, hmm, how to describe it, "petty" perhaps?

Why can't Jesus and the Buddha each be a Son of God?

and what's up with God that "He" doesn't have any Daughters?
 
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burd said:
Since he conceives by imagination, it must be mom's fault.
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It's the Holy Spirit that conceives.

But God not having daughters (or a wife) and Jesus not having a wife and Jesus and Mary both being conceived without sex is just God's way of showing us that women are awful and sex is sinful. Because the people who put together the Christian canon weren't messed up in the head at all...
 
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FreshFish said:
One thing that has always annoyed me about Christian doctrine is describing Jesus as the "only" Son of God.

I'm fine with the "Son of God" part, it's merely the claim of exclusivity that seems a bit, hmm, how to describe it, "petty" perhaps?

Why can't Jesus and the Buddha each be a Son of God?

and what's up with God that "He" doesn't have any Daughters?
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All I can go with is what the Bible says.....Jesus was God's only son.
 
Re: The Bible: Real, Fiction, or somewhere in between?

FreshFish said:
One thing that has always annoyed me about Christian doctrine is describing Jesus as the "only" Son of God.
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I have almost finished Jesus, Interrupted and Ehrman talks about how son of god was a very normal term at the time to describe a jew, and it had none of the connotations that most modern Christians associate it with. The first three gospels follow more of the pattern of that reference and it is only really John (whose author is the most removed from Jesus) that speaks about being the "only" son of god and/or being more than human.

I have read the NT a few times always sequentially but never horizontally so other people here more familiar with the NT can probably comment further/correct me.
 
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Kepler said:
I take it you're not Catholic. Ever heard of the Immaculate Conception?
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Yes, no. I had to look it up, wiki sums up my own feeling: "Protestants generally reject the doctrine because they do not consider the development of dogmatic theology to be authoritative apart from Biblical exegesis."
 
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FreshFish said:
That's a new one, never heard that before ever.

"Immaculate Conception" = She was conceived without the stain of original sin. Very different.
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What is original sin, anyway? Other than being born a gopher fan.
 
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burd said:
What is original sin, anyway? Other than being born a gopher fan.
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I like to think that when we're born we're without sin. Otherwise, God is taking all those infants that die and casting them into Hell.
 
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Priceless said:
I like to think that when we're born we're without sin. Otherwise, God is taking all those infants that die and casting them into Hell.
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We are, remember, sinners in the hands of an angry god.
 
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