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Re: The 2015 Pairwise, Bracketology and History Thread
Nice of Wodon to quote me without quoting me
Nice of Wodon to quote me without quoting me
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Re: The 2015 Pairwise, Bracketology and History Thread
I agree with Wodon. I came up with the same pairings except I had Manchester and Providence groups switched.
I agree with Wodon. I came up with the same pairings except I had Manchester and Providence groups switched.
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Priceless
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Re: The 2015 Pairwise, Bracketology and History Thread
Can't wait to see if attendance in South Bend can drop below even the B1G tournament! (actual attendance, not announced attendance. that's a bunch of crap)
Can't wait to see if attendance in South Bend can drop below even the B1G tournament! (actual attendance, not announced attendance. that's a bunch of crap)
Re: The 2015 Pairwise, Bracketology and History Thread
I had MIA in SB, and MSU going east, due to "it's still a flight" reasoning. Tech fans are obviously P1SSED right now.
I had MIA in SB, and MSU going east, due to "it's still a flight" reasoning. Tech fans are obviously P1SSED right now.
Re: The 2015 Pairwise, Bracketology and History Thread
Looking further, I actually see 3 good possibilitis. Well, more actually.
Like Priceless, I think that the committee's public statements in regard to possibly going back to some on-campus playoffs means that they are concerned with the atmosphere of the regionals. Therefore, I am going to work on the idea that Miami plays at South Bend, because there is no other local draw.
Also, being from Minnesota, I am not sure how choose between Manchester and Providence, so I am going to guess here.
Manchester: 1-MSUM v 16-RIT; 8-Omaha v 9-Harvard.
This piece stays the same in all brackets.
Then, A: Fargo: 2-NoDak v 15-PC; 7-MTU v 12-SCSU
South Bend: 4-Miami v 13-Yale; 5-Denver v 10-Minny
Providence: 3-BU v 14-Quinny; 6-UMD v 11-BC
or, B: Fargo: 2-NoDak v 15-PC; 7-MTU v 12-SCSU
South Bend: 4-Miami v 13-Yale; 6-UMD v 10-Minny
Providence: 3-BU v 14-Quinny; 5-Denver v 11-BC
or, C: Fargo: 2-NoDak v 15-PC; 6-UMD v 10-Minny
South Bend: 4-Miami v 13-Yale; 7-MTU v 12-SCSU
Providence: 3-BU v 14-Quinny; 5-Denver v 11-BC
Choice C has the fewest flights, but also the least bracket integrity because 4 and 7 are in the same bracket. A and B have the same number of flights. I think it's possible a few UMD fans might make it to South Bend rather than Denver fans. So, in some ways, I see advantage to B. But, A has the 1/8, 2/7, 3/6, 4/5 thing going for it.
Ultimately, I am less sure what the committee might do this year than ever.
Looking further, I actually see 3 good possibilitis. Well, more actually.
Like Priceless, I think that the committee's public statements in regard to possibly going back to some on-campus playoffs means that they are concerned with the atmosphere of the regionals. Therefore, I am going to work on the idea that Miami plays at South Bend, because there is no other local draw.
Also, being from Minnesota, I am not sure how choose between Manchester and Providence, so I am going to guess here.
Manchester: 1-MSUM v 16-RIT; 8-Omaha v 9-Harvard.
This piece stays the same in all brackets.
Then, A: Fargo: 2-NoDak v 15-PC; 7-MTU v 12-SCSU
South Bend: 4-Miami v 13-Yale; 5-Denver v 10-Minny
Providence: 3-BU v 14-Quinny; 6-UMD v 11-BC
or, B: Fargo: 2-NoDak v 15-PC; 7-MTU v 12-SCSU
South Bend: 4-Miami v 13-Yale; 6-UMD v 10-Minny
Providence: 3-BU v 14-Quinny; 5-Denver v 11-BC
or, C: Fargo: 2-NoDak v 15-PC; 6-UMD v 10-Minny
South Bend: 4-Miami v 13-Yale; 7-MTU v 12-SCSU
Providence: 3-BU v 14-Quinny; 5-Denver v 11-BC
Choice C has the fewest flights, but also the least bracket integrity because 4 and 7 are in the same bracket. A and B have the same number of flights. I think it's possible a few UMD fans might make it to South Bend rather than Denver fans. So, in some ways, I see advantage to B. But, A has the 1/8, 2/7, 3/6, 4/5 thing going for it.
Ultimately, I am less sure what the committee might do this year than ever.
Re: The 2015 Pairwise, Bracketology and History Thread
Numbers: being from MN, I likened the Manch/Prov for BU/BC like St Cloud and Mankato to Minnesotans. We can't explain it, it's a culture thing, but St Cloud would be the favorite, as you easterners (from what I gathered) favor Manch.
Numbers: being from MN, I likened the Manch/Prov for BU/BC like St Cloud and Mankato to Minnesotans. We can't explain it, it's a culture thing, but St Cloud would be the favorite, as you easterners (from what I gathered) favor Manch.
Re: The 2015 Pairwise, Bracketology and History Thread
My guess. Preserves top 8 intact. #1 overall gets #16. Keeps St. Cloud from playing a conference opponent in first round. Attendance is as good as possible and travel to a minimum.
South Bend:
1. Minnesota State vs. 16. Rochester Institute of Technology
8. Omaha vs.10. Minnesota
Fargo:
2 North Dakota vs.14. Quinnipiac
7 Michigan Tech vs. 12.St. Cloud
Manchester:
3 Boston University vs. 13. Yale
6 Minnesota-Duluth vs. 9. Harvard
Providence:
4 Miami vs. 15. Providence
5 Denver vs. 11.Boston College
My guess. Preserves top 8 intact. #1 overall gets #16. Keeps St. Cloud from playing a conference opponent in first round. Attendance is as good as possible and travel to a minimum.
South Bend:
1. Minnesota State vs. 16. Rochester Institute of Technology
8. Omaha vs.10. Minnesota
Fargo:
2 North Dakota vs.14. Quinnipiac
7 Michigan Tech vs. 12.St. Cloud
Manchester:
3 Boston University vs. 13. Yale
6 Minnesota-Duluth vs. 9. Harvard
Providence:
4 Miami vs. 15. Providence
5 Denver vs. 11.Boston College
Shirtless Guy
Old Dirty Basterd
Re: The 2015 Pairwise, Bracketology and History Thread
I really hope they go with C but I doubt it.
The Zlax45
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I like Providence more than Manchester in terms of cities...Prov is more of a little Boston while Manchester is interesting and not as good to visit but great rink
Re: The 2015 Pairwise, Bracketology and History Thread
Maybe that "great rink" is what swayed them? Just taking a stab. SCSU's and MSU's rinks are both horrible, although SCSU did have a recent upgrade. The actual city is slightly better with a little more to do there. But that's not saying much.
Maybe that "great rink" is what swayed them? Just taking a stab. SCSU's and MSU's rinks are both horrible, although SCSU did have a recent upgrade. The actual city is slightly better with a little more to do there. But that's not saying much.
MagnessMan
D-1 Hockey Nut
Re: The 2015 Pairwise, Bracketology and History Thread
So I agree with what Numbers said about there being a lot of options/considerations this year. I also think addressing possible attendance concerns is about the only reason the committee exists. Moy wrote earlier this week about the split in east/west participation creating the opportunity to keep most eastern teams in the east and that this would be good for attendance. I strongly agree with that. The movement that happened in the PWR complicated it (things were a little more cut and dry last Monday). That said, I think the committee will have to make some adjustments (impacting integrity) that bring balance to the two eastern regionals. The bracket that BC/HE came up with is addressing this issue. Moving PC back from Fargo and having BC there makes it so you've got about as good of attendance as you're going to get. They'll do something like this. I figure DU could play either Harvard, the Gophs or BC in the first round. If we are placed with Miami (and I think we will be) I'd rather see Miami have Yale than PC.
So I agree with what Numbers said about there being a lot of options/considerations this year. I also think addressing possible attendance concerns is about the only reason the committee exists. Moy wrote earlier this week about the split in east/west participation creating the opportunity to keep most eastern teams in the east and that this would be good for attendance. I strongly agree with that. The movement that happened in the PWR complicated it (things were a little more cut and dry last Monday). That said, I think the committee will have to make some adjustments (impacting integrity) that bring balance to the two eastern regionals. The bracket that BC/HE came up with is addressing this issue. Moving PC back from Fargo and having BC there makes it so you've got about as good of attendance as you're going to get. They'll do something like this. I figure DU could play either Harvard, the Gophs or BC in the first round. If we are placed with Miami (and I think we will be) I'd rather see Miami have Yale than PC.
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MagnessMan
D-1 Hockey Nut
Re: The 2015 Pairwise, Bracketology and History Thread
Wooden's dealing with attendance too. His adjustment in Providence seems a little weaker attendance wise than having BC and PC there. Who knows? Maybe the committee will think it's enough.
brassbonanza
Super Serial
Re: The 2015 Pairwise, Bracketology and History Thread
Your Manchester bracket will not happen, it's an attendance disaster. RIT is 400 miles away and Harvard has very few hockey fans. Not a chance at least one of BU and BC is not in Manchester. This bracket would be lucky to get 3K in the door.
Your Manchester bracket will not happen, it's an attendance disaster. RIT is 400 miles away and Harvard has very few hockey fans. Not a chance at least one of BU and BC is not in Manchester. This bracket would be lucky to get 3K in the door.
MagnessMan
D-1 Hockey Nut
Re: The 2015 Pairwise, Bracketology and History Thread
Moy must've broken his pencil or run out of paper due to all the possibilities. He's taking a long time!
Moy must've broken his pencil or run out of paper due to all the possibilities. He's taking a long time!
Re: The 2015 Pairwise, Bracketology and History Thread
Before the MIA game was over, SteveMN and I were trying to break things down. We gave up (location, not seeds). 4 way tie for the 4 seed does that (that game meant THAT much for locations).
Before the MIA game was over, SteveMN and I were trying to break things down. We gave up (location, not seeds). 4 way tie for the 4 seed does that (that game meant THAT much for locations).
What if you swap it for Providence?
brassbonanza
Super Serial
Re: The 2015 Pairwise, Bracketology and History Thread
Makes it worse, increases the distance from RIT. (I assume you mean swap the site, not the teams?) Harvard has a baaaaaaaaaaad reputation for fan support around here. Them being the only eastern team in a regional here would be unnecessarily stupid, considering you have BU, BC, QU, Yale, and PC as options to increase attendance numbers.
Makes it worse, increases the distance from RIT. (I assume you mean swap the site, not the teams?) Harvard has a baaaaaaaaaaad reputation for fan support around here. Them being the only eastern team in a regional here would be unnecessarily stupid, considering you have BU, BC, QU, Yale, and PC as options to increase attendance numbers.
