Re: The 112th Congress - The first Orange-American to be elected Speaker
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The 112th Congress - The first Orange-American to be elected Speaker
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walrus
Wind up workin' in a gas station
Re: The 112th Congress - The first Orange-American to be elected Speaker
Maybe you could go a couple of weeks without dihydrogen oxide so we can see how it goes
Thanks for the obvious conclusion on the ability to pronounce the ingredients list. Maybe you might admit its possible ingredients you don't know are there might be bad for you also. Heard of food allergies? Let me guess you work for a food additive company? Better living thru chemistry.
Maybe you could go a couple of weeks without dihydrogen oxide so we can see how it goes
Thanks for the obvious conclusion on the ability to pronounce the ingredients list. Maybe you might admit its possible ingredients you don't know are there might be bad for you also. Heard of food allergies? Let me guess you work for a food additive company? Better living thru chemistry.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: The 112th Congress - The first Orange-American to be elected Speaker
For the former, I dunno, maybe Eleanor Roosevelt. Does half the country wanting to bang Jackie Kennedy count as a "cause"?
For the latter, yes, I think so. Despite the rabble rabble gummint bad rabble rabble the PSA campaigns about littering, smoking, domestic violence, redlining, hiring Vets, drunk driving, and even racial and religious tolerance have had good effects. Listening to classic radio, the government ads during WW2 earnestly asking people to put aside religious bigotry in the name of unity are among the most stirring and patriotic things I've ever heard.
PSAs are by their very nature an easy target for mockery but there is some effect. Some are utterly inane ("just say No") but some have been a nudge towards good. And in the end they are about values, and as much as I don't care for state paternalism in legislation, the non-binding reinforcement of certain core values is not a terrible thing. We are after all a society, regardless of what Margaret Thatcher thought.
For the former, I dunno, maybe Eleanor Roosevelt. Does half the country wanting to bang Jackie Kennedy count as a "cause"?
For the latter, yes, I think so. Despite the rabble rabble gummint bad rabble rabble the PSA campaigns about littering, smoking, domestic violence, redlining, hiring Vets, drunk driving, and even racial and religious tolerance have had good effects. Listening to classic radio, the government ads during WW2 earnestly asking people to put aside religious bigotry in the name of unity are among the most stirring and patriotic things I've ever heard.
PSAs are by their very nature an easy target for mockery but there is some effect. Some are utterly inane ("just say No") but some have been a nudge towards good. And in the end they are about values, and as much as I don't care for state paternalism in legislation, the non-binding reinforcement of certain core values is not a terrible thing. We are after all a society, regardless of what Margaret Thatcher thought.
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leswp1
Well-known member
Re: The 112th Congress - The first Orange-American to be elected Speaker
Saying that we don't have bad water and we have food so it isn't as significant is an interesting take. Having an abundance of diseasesrelated to malnutrition and obesity like diabetes and heart disease has a number of effects you might not consider- Can't serve in the armed forces, work force that is more likely to be absent, take time off, more likely to need disability, more likely to utilize insurance benefits (increased cost to all in the company), etc. Every place has their burden. We have more poor people than ever and they are fat, out of shape, malnourished and increasingly utilizing our medical resources for chronic illness at younger and younger ages. 25 yrs ago no one had Type II diabetes under the age of 30 and that was young. The $ we pay could be used for so many other things.
WeWantMore
New member
Re: The 112th Congress - The first Orange-American to be elected Speaker
Don't joke. DHMO kills thousands of people each year.
Don't joke. DHMO kills thousands of people each year.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: The 112th Congress - The first Orange-American to be elected Speaker
I know, right?
I know, right?
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: The 112th Congress - The first Orange-American to be elected Speaker
No, I won't admit that. If I don't know what it is, how can I know if it's bad, good, or harmless?
Nope. I do not. But life is much much better through chemistry.
Maybe you could go a couple of weeks without dihydrogen oxide so we can see how it goes
Thanks for the obvious conclusion on the ability to pronounce the ingredients list. Maybe you might admit its possible ingredients you don't know are there might be bad for you also. Heard of food allergies? Let me guess you work for a food additive company? Better living thru chemistry.
No, I won't admit that. If I don't know what it is, how can I know if it's bad, good, or harmless?
Nope. I do not. But life is much much better through chemistry.
P
Priceless
Guest
Re: The 112th Congress - The first Orange-American to be elected Speaker
I don't know. Maybe we should ask the folks at the Betty Ford clinic.
I don't know. Maybe we should ask the folks at the Betty Ford clinic.
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Priceless
Guest
Re: The 112th Congress - The first Orange-American to be elected Speaker
Fortunately, since it isn't the food companies' responsibility to make sure their food is safe, we have a strong government watchdog keeping an eye on things.
Fortunately, since it isn't the food companies' responsibility to make sure their food is safe, we have a strong government watchdog keeping an eye on things.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: The 112th Congress - The first Orange-American to be elected Speaker
Ah yes, the evil corporation theory rears its ugly head. All these companies have is their reputation. If a batch of corn flakes kills 50 people, do you really think Kellog's survives?
Ah yes, the evil corporation theory rears its ugly head. All these companies have is their reputation. If a batch of corn flakes kills 50 people, do you really think Kellog's survives?
unofan
Well-known member
Re: The 112th Congress - The first Orange-American to be elected Speaker
Yes. Corn Flakes might not, but Kellog's itself will.
Yes. Corn Flakes might not, but Kellog's itself will.
XYZ
Smoking in the selection room.
Re: The 112th Congress - The first Orange-American to be elected Speaker
No idea how to quantify that either way. The tradition of the first lady finding some cause to trumpet is about the last government action I'm worried about, be it in terms of effectiveness or cost as in the grand scheme it's meaningless. Worst case maybe I'd just consider it some positive PR. My main point is that people have to be kidding me with this whole rib thing. I mean, seriously?
No idea how to quantify that either way. The tradition of the first lady finding some cause to trumpet is about the last government action I'm worried about, be it in terms of effectiveness or cost as in the grand scheme it's meaningless. Worst case maybe I'd just consider it some positive PR. My main point is that people have to be kidding me with this whole rib thing. I mean, seriously?
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Priceless
Guest
Re: The 112th Congress - The first Orange-American to be elected Speaker
Yes. They'll change their name to Kalamazoo or something and go on with business as usual.
Yes. They'll change their name to Kalamazoo or something and go on with business as usual.
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: The 112th Congress - The first Orange-American to be elected Speaker
Sure. The Banks survived, didn't they? Can't get any worse then what they did.
Sure. The Banks survived, didn't they? Can't get any worse then what they did.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: The 112th Congress - The first Orange-American to be elected Speaker
Killing someone? Or dozens of people? Not worse than stealing and lying? Wow.
Killing someone? Or dozens of people? Not worse than stealing and lying? Wow.
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: The 112th Congress - The first Orange-American to be elected Speaker
Yeah, you're probably right. But stealing and lying is a close second. And killing one-12 people or millions of people's livelihood's is a tough call.
Yeah, you're probably right. But stealing and lying is a close second. And killing one-12 people or millions of people's livelihood's is a tough call.
Re: The 112th Congress - The first Orange-American to be elected Speaker
Do you really think that the financial collapse didn't cost some people their lives? I'll bet it was more than 50, but we'll never know.
Do you really think that the financial collapse didn't cost some people their lives? I'll bet it was more than 50, but we'll never know.
Re: The 112th Congress - The first Orange-American to be elected Speaker
Who watches the government? The media is supposed to...
Who watches the government? The media is supposed to...
Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
Re: The 112th Congress - The first Orange-American to be elected Speaker
You mean like Ford Motor Company? Or Tylenol? Or the Tobacco Industry? Businesses kill people everyday and survive. (that doesnt make them evil just proving the flaw in your argument)
Hell, I bet if you looked you could find 50 people who died from a Kelloggs product every year. You can find 50 people that died from ANYTHING in a given year
You mean like Ford Motor Company? Or Tylenol? Or the Tobacco Industry? Businesses kill people everyday and survive. (that doesnt make them evil just proving the flaw in your argument)
Hell, I bet if you looked you could find 50 people who died from a Kelloggs product every year. You can find 50 people that died from ANYTHING in a given year
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