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St. Cloud State vs. Mankato: Watch Your Head!!!

Re: St. Cloud State vs. Mankato: Watch Your Head!!!

That is the other side of the argument. However, we used to call these things hip checks for a reason. Now it's full speed with the shoulder. Hip, safe - shoulder, possibly fraught with peril.
Hip checks and shoulder checks are used in completely different scenarios. The D corps is supposed to use a hip check while back pedaling and the rushing forward tries to skirt by, the D man makes a sharp turn, sticks out backside, and takes out the rushing forward at the hip. There's also the rub-out while going along the boards. The shoulder check is generally used while traveling forward in an open ice situation or along the end boards while on an intersecting course with the opponents. The problem lies in that far too often players put out their arms to absorb the force of their own hit rather than tuck their arms into their bodies and lean forward with a shoulder, and that's when you see the hits to the head.
 
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It's been a down year for Maverick posters on the forum, that's for sure..:(
And I believe that the drop-off in interest in Maverick hockey evidenced on this board will be reflected in a drop-off in attendance at games next year. I'm already seeing crowds that don't look anywhere near the announced attendance, indicating that a lot of pre-sold tickets are going unused.

The frustration evident on the players' faces at the end of the Saturday night Denver game makes me wonder, will we see a team desperate to go into the playoffs on an upswing, or one that has packed it in?
 
Re: St. Cloud State vs. Mankato: Watch Your Head!!!

And I believe that the drop-off in interest in Maverick hockey evidenced on this board will be reflected in a drop-off in attendance at games next year. I'm already seeing crowds that don't look anywhere near the announced attendance, indicating that a lot of pre-sold tickets are going unused.

The drop-off in Maverick fan participation here is because everyone just goes to Shane's blog now, which he does an excellent job with, and because USCHO hasn't drawn in any new posters since about 2005.
 
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The drop-off in Maverick fan participation here is because everyone just goes to Shane's blog now
There aren't enough posts on there to account for all of the drop-off here. Perpetually being in 7-8-9 in the league will cause a loss of interest.
 
Re: St. Cloud State vs. Mankato: Watch Your Head!!!

That's where you're not seeing the entire picture. This isn't setting a precedent. They did the same thing last year with Trevor Bruess. Ask the Mavs fans in this thread. The things he got suspended for weren't the worst of his hits. The problem with Marvin now and with Bruess last year is that the borderline dirty (I would argue more reckless than dirty) play progressed. The league is forced to make this decision after they see a pattern. As the pattern goes on and the conduct doesn't subside, they have to increase the penalties until the kid finally "gets it".

Okay, I will take that side. Thank you for answering my question because of the situation in Mankato last year.

Now...back to hockey talk.

I hate the Mankato series because they usually have our number on our ice. I am not talking about 1 goal win, but a massive blowout, as we all know. Thus, I am not wasting my time and money to drive up to Minnesota to watch this. I hope St. Cloud the best and Raboin and Festler are back this weekend.
 
Re: St. Cloud State vs. Mankato: Watch Your Head!!!

The drop-off in Maverick fan participation here is because everyone just goes to Shane's blog now, which he does an excellent job with, and because USCHO hasn't drawn in any new posters since about 2005.
I do go to Shane's blog quite a bit for information. He does a GREAT job, and I contribute when I can. I also check that Western College Hockey Blog every now and then, too ;)
There aren't enough posts on there to account for all of the drop-off here. Perpetually being in 7-8-9 in the league will cause a loss of interest.
Once the words, "we're compettitive in our peer group," were uttered out of the AD's mouth (paraphrased here), I pretty much knew 7-8-9 was as good as it would be for a while to come. That pretty much led to the Jutting extention and here we are. If the University doesn't want to be any better, why should we care?

I'd love to hop in the car and drive down 169 every weekend like I used to, but now the lack of success coming out of Mankato makes it all that easier to find other things to do with my time. I consider myself a very loyal fan, and will still root on the Mavs every chance I get, but the economics of being in St. Paul means something has to go--Mankato hockey has been the choice that is cut.
 
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It would be nice to see a game that involved more than just the usual players. I know I am not the only Mav Fan that is tired of watching the same 4 Defenseman and 6-9 Forwards get all of the playing time. There has to be another way to do things. :(
 
Re: St. Cloud State vs. Mankato: Watch Your Head!!!

I worked through the tiebreakers and such, and figured SCSU can finish anywhere from 2nd to 5th after this weekend. Here's where everybody could possibly finish up, taking all tiebreakers into account as well:

Denver: 1st
Wisconsin: 2nd, 3rd, 4th
SCSU: 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
UMD: 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
North Dakota: 3rd, 4th, 5th
Colorado: 6th, 7th
Minnesota: 6th, 7th
Alaska-Anchorage: 8th, 9th
Mankato: 8th, 9th
Michigan Tech: 10th

Another odd quirk this weekend: Teams in top half of conference are nearly playing their own position in the bottom half (1 vs 6, 2 vs 7, 3 vs 9, 4 vs 8, 5 vs 10). only flip flop was the 3/9 4/8, and only 1 pt seperates 8th and 9th. Thought that was kind of an odd quirk when looking for teams that could catch a team in the standings by sweeping them, only to find out nobody could.
 
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Given SCSU's recent history against Mankato State, it would really play out best if both SCSU and UW sweep their series. It's just been odd that no matter how bad a Mankato team has been that they always play SCSU well enough for at least a split. Beyond that, when the two teams have split, it's usually each team winning in the other's arena. For that reason alone I'd want to play UAA in the first round.
 
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Yeah, i'd much rather face UAA than Mankato in the 1st round, we have slightly more success vs the Seawolves than the Mavs at our building. Just as long as we stay Top 3 after this weekend so we avoid the play-in game in the Final Five should we advance. All we need is 1 win this weekend to ensure a top 3 finish.
 
Re: St. Cloud State vs. Mankato: Watch Your Head!!!

Once the words, "we're competitive in our peer group," were uttered out of the AD's mouth (paraphrased here), I pretty much knew 7-8-9 was as good as it would be for a while to come. That pretty much led to the Jutting extension and here we are. If the University doesn't want to be any better, why should we care?
That phrase haunts us all, because it told us that they were perfectly willing for things to continue as they are. And the fact is, we're NOT competitive with our peer institutions. StC, Duluth, Bemidji have all done much better on a more regular basis.

After this weekend, I'll probably swear that I'm not going to renew my season tickets, just like I did last year. Then August rolls around, and I'll probably get out the checkbook again, and as long as there are enough suckers like me, they don't have any incentive to change.
 
Re: St. Cloud State vs. Mankato: Watch Your Head!!!

After this weekend, I'll probably swear that I'm not going to renew my season tickets, just like I did last year. Then August rolls around, and I'll probably get out the checkbook again, and as long as there are enough suckers like me, they don't have any incentive to change.

All I have to say is hang in there. I was at that point the last couple of years Dahl was our coach. Jutting is a really good guy, but at some point losing is going to cost him his job. I know a guy who has know Jutting since college and he told me the only reason he still has a job is because the boosters for the most part really like him as a person. I know that was the reason Dahl had his job for so long as well. At some point that will change and he will be gone.
 
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All I have to say is hang in there. I was at that point the last couple of years Dahl was our coach. Jutting is a really good guy, but at some point losing is going to cost him his job. I know a guy who has know Jutting since college and he told me the only reason he still has a job is because the boosters for the most part really like him as a person. I know that was the reason Dahl had his job for so long as well. At some point that will change and he will be gone.

I, a loyal Husky fan, hope, plead, wish, and support Troy to be the Mavs coach for many years to come, unless they replace him with...Craig Dahl. That change I could live with and I assume the Mavs boosters as well.:p
 
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does anyone know, is Raboin out for the series or is he going to play? I thought i read something that he was out, but I couldn't remember where and I can't find it now.
 
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